JeffB Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Steve63130: I've tried tucking, and didn't like it because it wasn't at all comfortable, thus my decision to go with a briefer. Kilty: The problem, per se with wearing knit pencil skirts is that they can be quite clingy, showing off every little thing, including, for us guys, our packages which again makes wearing a briefer a must. Now, I wear denim a lot since the places I often go call for more casual attire, though I've dressed up a time or two when going to a restaurant. Since I've embraced the philosophy of fashion freestyling, it's all about the total outfit, the shoes are simply part of the overall equation, not the be all and end all, thus my wearing flats of late. I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkirtDude Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 JeffB, thanks for the advice. It's not the easiest of subjects to discuss but thanks for the advice. I have ordered some tummy control briefs, that will help. Stronger material skirts / kilts also help. I find lighter colors make things worse, so I'm sticking to grays blacks navy when it comes to pencil skirts, and the type of material. I want to wear them as a guy, I don't want to 'pass' as a woman. I think the limited fashion choice for men has to change, even some of the rappers are realizing its time to dress how they really feel... http://rumorfix.com/...omens-clothing/ though sadly there is a backlash and 'followers' are calling it 'faggotry' and other more unmentionable things... they said the same about skinny jeans, and look, all the sheep are wearing those now, so I'm sure it will be the same with skirts... if that link didn't work, google 'Trinidad James', he's the latest to embrace the skirt along with A$AP Rocky Kilts are nice, but damned expensive compared to a skirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Kilty: I forgot to mention how lighter colors could help expose more than you intend, which is while I wear a goodly amount of darker colors myself. The link you provided worked just fine, most interesting indeed. As for the backlash, it's just more of the same old tired nonsense about how people with prehistoric mindsets continue to equate clothing with sexual preference. It's easy for these idiots to call men who choose to wear skirts gay, but NEVER proclaim that women who wear pants or jeans are dykes. Can you say "double standard", boys and girls? It's so irritating. Meanwhile, is a kilt more expensive than say, a leather skirt? Heh! I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkirtDude Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Kilty: I forgot to mention how lighter colors could help expose more than you intend, which is while I wear a goodly amount of darker colors myself. The link you provided worked just fine, most interesting indeed. As for the backlash, it's just more of the same old tired nonsense about how people with prehistoric mindsets continue to equate clothing with sexual preference. It's easy for these idiots to call men who choose to wear skirts gay, but NEVER proclaim that women who wear pants or jeans are dykes. Can you say "double standard", boys and girls? It's so irritating. Meanwhile, is a kilt more expensive than say, a leather skirt? Heh! JeffB, most of the briefs I ordered was black, so I should be okay... I'm not taking chances with white.. I will try that beige skirt with the control slip and briefs and see if that makes any difference. I don't want to hide the fact I'm a man, I just love the comfort and variety of skirts as well as kilts. What with more of the 'Hip Hop set' embracing skirts, hopefully the sheep will settle down and not make these stupid statements. I got my black denim skirt today, and am loving it the Mrs is in two minds and fears before long I won't wear anything 'male' anymore... She's not convinced it's a 'pleatless utility kilt'... Kilt prices are too high, and the fact I can pick up a pencil skirt for a fraction of the price is madness. I am learning to tune out from the backlash, and I won't be surprised to see myself in a 'Man Skirt' tweet with photo anytime soon... looking forward to your jaunt in a cute (non-denim) number Thanks for the advice Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Kilty: By all means, let me know what happens with the brief and how it works with that beige skirt. I agree wholeheartedly with what you said about skirts being comfortable, especially on hot, humid summer days, I feel so much cooler, even moreso than when wearing men's shorts. I've mentioned this more than once, but I almost never wear men's shorts beyond my front porch or to a store around the corner because I don't feel at ease in them, not even knee length cargo shorts, but I've worn skirts as short as 15 inches everywhere without a care in the world. As for a jaunt in a knit pencil skirt, that will be coming soon. I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkirtDude Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Kilty: By all means, let me know what happens with the brief and how it works with that beige skirt. I agree wholeheartedly with what you said about skirts being comfortable, especially on hot, humid summer days, I feel so much cooler, even moreso than when wearing men's shorts. I've mentioned this more than once, but I almost never wear men's shorts beyond my front porch or to a store around the corner because I don't feel at ease in them, not even knee length cargo shorts, but I've worn skirts as short as 15 inches everywhere without a care in the world. As for a jaunt in a knit pencil skirt, that will be coming soon. Jeff, I got my briefs and control slip today, but I ordered the wrong size I'm at least a size 12 in these, the 8 shipped is too difficult to move in (let alone pull up quick enough when nature calls) so I'll save it for cold winter days... it can stretch to knee length but that made me shuffle around like Kim Kardashian so I wear it at the length you see in the pics... wheras the briefs kept my cargo.... er... secure I feel so self conscious in that beige skirt now (and its a magnet for dirt, smh) that I don't wear it out much... but I've got a nice grey one You'll have to show us your new pencil skirt and tell us of your latest jaunt.... that shows what a good job the underwear now does... I didn't realise so much is needed for this Fashion Freedom carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shafted Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Modesty is almost always the key to good taste. Like the gray skirt on you. Nice piece. Shafted, the boots that is! View my gallery here http://www.hhplace.o...afteds-gallery/ or view my heeling thread here http://www.hhplace.org/topic/3850-new-pair-of-boots-starts-me-serious-street-heeling/ - Pm me if you want fashion advice or just need someone to talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Kilty: Well done! The briefs certainly did make a BIG difference with that gray skirt you displayed. Pair that with a red blouse and a pair of black pumps and you'll look supremely stylish. To fully explore the joys of fashion freedom does require a bit of a financial commitment, but if you're careful and spend wisely, you can pull it off. Keep on keeping on! I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkirtDude Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (blushes) Thanks so much for the kind words, Shafted and JeffB... ... hey just a little disclaimer (I won't delete the pics) but the control slip had some sort of "bottom uplift" panelling on it which made it look like I've got granny panties on as well as being too hard to move around in if worn at knee length. Unless I'm wearing it wrong, I was surprised it was so tight even for a size 8 I can at a push fit into a size 8 skirt though I'm usually a 10 (heading to 12 and need to diet), and in regular jeans a 34. I went on my first real long public outing to a large out of town shopping centre (Lakeside) yesterday, wearing my cardigan teamed with a short navy pencil skirt, though I wore different shoes... I tried pop sox and trainers, like what a girl would wear to the office before popping on her heels... I was aiming for a casual look,though I think the look may have backfired... I felt very exposed and the skirt rode up a little, and I had to keep pulling it down every so often though sceptical at first I know proper underwear does make a difference and makes things look a lot more presentable than before. I didn't bother with a slip on such a warm day. My heart was pounding as I left the car and went inside the mall - a group of teenagers passed me, looked, but said nothing. I walked around for 20 minutes or so, went to an ATM to take some money out, but had to answer the call of nature. I need advice from skirted members here as I felt a bit out of my comfort zone. Had I been in a kilt, I would have walked into the men's, but this time I went in the disabled toilet at McDonalds after ordering a takeaway... It's the whole skirt up panties down sit and pee stuff I'm still adjusting to (sorry for the graphic picture, but I can't think of the best way to explain)... In a kilt I don't feel as worried as kilts although uncommon are seen as just smart menswear... do most of you guys when skirted just say to hell with it and use the men's and find a stall? I just was very anxious. I bottled out of buying a dress in one shop, was worried about asking to try it on as I didn't want to upset any ladies using the changing rooms (it was busy), though the sales assistant, despite the confused look on her face was very helpful. I think I'll stick to eBay for now... Once back home, I was glad I pushed myself out there, but I'll never have the same confidence as JeffB does, or some of our more experienced members... Does this anxiety subside after a while? Oh, and one other thing - is there a short window of time which after a while we cannot edit posts or amend them? I tried to amend something recently and couldn't. Jeff, sorry for hijacking your thread, I just thought I'd share my first jaunt if I may use the word, with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 Kilty: No big deal, you could always start your own thread about your outings! Nice pic by the way, but wasn't it hot wearing a cardigan at this time of year? On the subject of answering nature's call, I make sure to visit the bathroom before leaving home, and, when out and about and I have lunch somewhere, I'm careful about how much I drink. There was one time when I did have to go while at a multiplex a few years ago while wearing a skirt, I just went in the men's room, did my business, washed my hands and left, easy as that. As for buying clothes, I don't bother with changing rooms, I know my size and buy whatever I like and try it on when I get back home, but I leave the tags on and keep the receipt handy, if something I buy doesn't fit or doesn't look right, I simply return it, however, that's yet to happen. As for anxiety, don't feel bad about it or let it get to you, it happens to all of us from time to time, even me. Yes, anxiety does fade away eventually, but don't force it away, it's all about the process of developing your "emotional armor" that helps you freestyle with confidence. Just keep at it, that confidence will come. I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkirtDude Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Okay, I get the hint, you don't want me around anymore (runs out of room sobbing) I may start my own thread, though it won't be as good as yours... BTW I did wear that cardigan as it was a lot cooler yesterday... it was raining too, but I was indoors for most of my trip to the mall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallguyinheels Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Kilty and Jeff, Just as the Tallguy - looking good in pencil skirts - all business like. I've picked up a few more and as fall approaches I'll do more skirting the evelope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 Okay, I get the hint, you don't want me around anymore (runs out of room sobbing) I may start my own thread, though it won't be as good as yours... BTW I did wear that cardigan as it was a lot cooler yesterday... it was raining too, but I was indoors for most of my trip to the mall I'm sure you'll do we'll with your own thread, don't worry about how good it might be, just express yourself as best you can and describe the joy you experience from wearing the shoes and clothes that you love, nothing more, nothing less. By the by, that was a nice cardigan, I might have to investigate one myself. Kilty and Jeff, Just as the Tallguy - looking good in pencil skirts - all business like. I've picked up a few more and as fall approaches I'll do more skirting the evelope. I've been thinking that one has to effect a professional look when wearing a pencil skirt, especially when you add a dressy blouse, hosiery and a sharp looking pair of pumps. The idea is to look elegant, really put together in that sort of outfit, and I'm eager to see what I can do with that. I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkirtDude Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Jeff, don't bother with wool-knit versions of the pencil skirt, they stretch out and lose shape... regular tailored ones look good, with a decent split at the back for movement Looking forward to your next jaunt, I'll get off your thread now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Thanks for the tip, Kilty! I'll certainly keep that in mind. Speaking of jaunts: Jaunt #197, 8/24/2013: Yesterday was an anniversary of sorts. It was around this time five years ago that I first wore a skirt in public which you can read about HERE. The denim skirt I wore in late August of 2008 I wore yesterday which I paired with a black polo shirt, the Payless "Cori" wedge flats and a black handbag. Regarding the skirt, the brand in question is Canyon River Blues and I bought it at Sears, and after all these years, it remains my go to skirt which I've worn more than any other in my collection, I've worn it in spring, summer, fall and winter and with flats, pumps and boots. It's hard to explain, but it always feels good to wear this skirt and it continues to look good on me. I just LOVE to wear it! As for my outing, it was sunny, breezy and delightful and I couldn't wait to hit the road. My first stop was downtown and my favorite comic book shop where I chatted with the staff about the recent casting of Ben Affleck as the new Batman. We all found that curious, and a wee bit comical. After leaving the shop, I walked up a block to a convienence store to buy Saturday night's Powerball ticket (didn't win), then went on an unexpected stroll around the neighborhood looking for a store to buy a newspaper, I covered a good half square mile in my search, walking at a slow, casual pace so I could be seen, but no one paid me any mind as I strolled about until I finally found a paper at a CVS drug store. It felt great to walk about in a crowded downtown area and have no one gape or gawk or giggle or give me a wide eyed stare at what I wore. I was just an ordinary, middle aged man in a tasteful skirt, nothing more. Back in my car, I was off to South Jersey and headed to the Moorestown Mall area where I went to Chick-Fil-A for lunch, after parking, I hopped out and strolled in the store, pretty as you please. There was a decent crowd in the store, but again, no one paid me any attention as I bought my lunch and ate. From there, it was off to the nearby Barnes & Noble where I spent well over half an hour reading a few magazines in the lounge area with a glass of lemonade before going to the check out with a couple of manga volumes. No big deal at all. As usual, I felt perfectly at ease and comfortable wearing a skirt, and again, I can't think of one good reason to go back to wearing jeans. Meanwhile, I just ordered a very pretty two piece dress from Sears this morning for my upcoming 200th jaunt. Stay tuned.... I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. X Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Looking good as usual Jeff! And not alot of people can say they are wearing the same clothes they wore 5 years ago! Let alone look good doing so! Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Looking good as usual Jeff! And not alot of people can say they are wearing the same clothes they wore 5 years ago! Let alone look good doing so! Well done! Well, other than that skirt, a pair of brown faux croc ankle boots from Payless and a pair of two inch heeled loafers bought via mail order, I don't have anything else in my wardrobe that's five years old. And thanks for the compliment! Much appreciated! I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleekHeels Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 As always you project an image of someone who's totally comfortable with what they're wearing, but even approaching your 200th jaunt you've kept that sense of excitement too. Maintaining that balance is mighty impressive Jeff. If you like it, wear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Hi jeff, thanks for inspiring others here to dress the way they like and feel comfortable. I probably never have worn tall boots over jeans if it wasn't from reading your thread, now I wear them every day. Keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 As always you project an image of someone who's totally comfortable with what they're wearing, but even approaching your 200th jaunt you've kept that sense of excitement too. Maintaining that balance is mighty impressive Jeff. Thanks for the kind words, my friend. I think that things really took off for me when I added skirts to the equation, opening a whole new world to me when it comes to fashion. I suspect that if I had stayed with just jeans and heels, I would've gotten bored, but wearing skirts have indeed made things MUCH more exciting to me, and it opened new horizons in terms of footwear choices as I came to appreciate flats which are fun to wear. My evolution from heel wearer to fashion freestyler has been rewarding, and more is to come! Hi jeff, thanks for inspiring others here to dress the way they like and feel comfortable. I probably never have worn tall boots over jeans if it wasn't from reading your thread, now I wear them every day. Keep up the good work. Well, I'm glad to have inspired you and opened your eyes about new and different fashion choices. I hope you'll continue to evolve and develop your style. I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted September 8, 2013 Author Share Posted September 8, 2013 Jaunt #198, 9/7/2013: With Labor Day having come and gone, the summer of 2013 is officially over. However, I'm still wearing skirts, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Like I've said a few times before, I see no reason to wear jeans, and even when the weather inevitably turns cooler, I could simply opt for longer, thicker skirts and stock up on tights to wear with my knee high boots. Anyhoo, this was a short outing as I had college football (Penn State) to watch, and I wanted to take my new Payless "Karmen" pumps out for a spin to see what they were like, pairing them with a denim blue K-Mart campshirt, the JCPenney American Living 20 inch black denim pencil skirt (previously worn on August 16th) and a black handbag. My first stop was downtown to tap an ATM for some cash, the Karmens were quite comfortable with the padded footbed, easy to walk in thanks to the three inch heels which made a pleasing click on the sidewalk and looked good on my feet. My next stop was to my favorite comic shop half a mile away, after finding a spot a block away from the shop, I hopped out, fed the meter and strolled to the shop, getting to enjoy a good little walk. I passed a goodly number of people, didn't get any stares, odd looks, giggles or guffaws, so is the sight of a middle aged man in a snug skirt with heels and hefting a handbag no big deal, or was that simply a case of people giving me my own space and being polite enough not to make a scene? Perhaps it's a combination of the two, who knows. Admittedly, I was a tad more dressed up than what might considered normal for a lazy Saturday, but hey, nothing wrong with looking sharp, and that's something I strive to do. I spent a solid twenty minutes or so in the shop as the staff is long used to seeing me in all sorts of women's wear and shoes, after leaving, I walked past more people, including a mother and two young daughters, again, no reactions. Fancy that. From there, it was off to South Jersey and Moorestown for lunch at Chick-Fil-A. Now, I did get a few odd looks/long stares when I walked in, but no one made a big deal of my appearance while I ate. Lastly, Best Buy where I spent nearly an hour gazing at all the cool gadgets, including new Ultra HD TV sets from Sony and Samsung which looked pretty darn awesome, the only people who approached me were those blue shirt clad salesperseons who asked me if I needed help. Finally, I left the store with a Roku 3 streaming player which I'd been interested in for awhile. A pretty enjoyable little trip made all the better by wearing a skirt and heels. It's the only way to go, my friends! I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockbass19 Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Nice job Jeff. I live in South Jersey - Williamstown area. We should meet up sometime. Anyone else from the Philly, South Jersey area??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 I'd hang with you guys for sure! But Toronto is a little far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. X Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Looking good as always Jeff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary0618 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Lindenwold, NJ. I am often up for a stroll around an AC Casino, or South Street in Philly FLAT SHOES, LIKE FLAT DRINKS, ARE FOR FLAT PEOPLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleekHeels Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I passed a goodly number of people, didn't get any stares, odd looks, giggles or guffaws, so is the sight of a middle aged man in a snug skirt with heels and hefting a handbag no big deal, or was that simply a case of people giving me my own space and being polite enough not to make a scene? Perhaps it's a combination of the two, who knows.I know what you mean. With some people it looks like they genuinely haven't noticed (like the "Invisible Gorilla" psychology experiment). However with most people I get the feeling they have noticed but they wish to conceal the slightest indication that they've noticed, to the extent that I do feel conscpicuously ignored. Sure there are a few who react with a mixture of surprise or disapproval, but the nicest reactions are the smiles, or even the very rare compliment. Admittedly, I was a tad more dressed up than what might considered normal for a lazy Saturday, but hey, nothing wrong with looking sharp, and that's something I strive to do.Yes, I also enjoy making the effort to look smarter than average, not to compete with anyone but simply to feel good within myself. It's quite a buzz feeling coordinated. If you like it, wear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockbass19 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Lindenwold, NJ. I am often up for a stroll around an AC Casino, or South Street in Philly Dude, I grew up in Lindenwold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikekicks Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Jeff.. I think I know what it is with you while your out on your jaunts. Darian was looking at some of your pictures while I was browsing along and my sister joined us. Along comes the Niece and the ' Granny '.. next thing I know, theres no fewer then 5 women looking at your pictures and asking each other questions and then they asked ME questions about you! I told them we have never met in person, we both share an interest in anime or ' Gundams ' ( have to be precise there! ) and that we have some similar tastes in what we might wear but.. thats as far as it goes. My sister commented that " Younger men can often pull things off better then older men ". I about pissed myself laughing! NONE of them believed you were over 40. ' Granny ' then stated " I believe why he goes about his business and nobody bugs him is because hes probably very wise but he surly doesnt look to have the years to prove it. He knows what hes doing and is probably beyond caring what anyone has to say about what he does on his own time. Those in the know should assume better then to question him when hes out on his merry way." and she walked away. Granny hit the nail on the head ( I believe ). I think the women were correct though. You definitely wear your years better then a lot of us! Cheers! -Ilk REPEATEDLY ARGUMENTATIVE, INSULTING AND RUDE. BANNED FOR LIFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejay Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 JeffB, Glad you had a nice time on your jaunt on Saturday. The outfit was very well co-ordinated. I'm glad to see you wearing pumps too. I like wearing pumps too and did so on my Sunday heeling event, yesterday. Happy Heeling,bluejay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 Well, thanks for the kind words, everybody! Much appreciated! Meanwhile, I had no idea there were members in the Tri-state area. Cool! SleekHeels: You brought up some good points there. I guess I don't mind being ignored, I suppose that means people are willing to let me go my own way just like other people go their own way. And yeah, it is nice to dress up for a jaunt. ilikekicks: Well, I must admit I don't quite know what to say. To have five women staring at my pictures was quite the ego stroking little event. Cool! Many thanks to Granny for the kind words, I guess I do pretty good for 54! HA! I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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