leggings skinny jeans adventures and reactions unfairly labeled.

[MackyHeels]

Went across town along busy downtown streets going to my favourite clothing boutique. Was in hurry afraid they maybe closing soon so i walked really quickly. Wearing my AG leggings in medium blue wash with white JV leather sneakers, green JV polo peace short sleeve and denim levis blue faded jacket. Felt comfortable  well, casually dressed. Didn't pay much attention i was getting stares from woman passing them by.  Couldn't help notice few woman one in a passenger seat of a car stalled in traffic was looking at the store front streetscapes. Then laid her eyes onto me with a smug smirk. Could tell she wasn't from the city most likely living in a more posh neighbourhood noticing her in the Lexus. Later on i overheard one tall young woman which i passed by. She was paired up with another one while i didn't pay much attention to both of them in passing they definitely noticed me. While they must of stopped at a street light intersection i overheard one saying to the other, You don't see me laughing at him do you. While the other stayed quite gasped from her laughter presumedly of me when passing by. 

Later as i arrived at the athletic clothing boutique i walked along the female section noticed female SA puckering her lips from laughing observing my outfit. Needless to say she stared away and walked off out of site. Usually SA would greet me saying hello do you need any help. After few minutes another SA walked by asking if i needed anything as i nodded her off saying i'm fine. 

Why the smirky attitude from woman who themselves wear tight fitting pants to guy like myself?  The prejudice and hypocrisy  of some woman is evident seeing male dressed similar to most woman less the heels.  Agree with some on this forum who outfit themselves in skirt and heels finding less negative reactions wearing it on the street. Woman tend to instantly assume your crossdresser and adjust there opinions as such. While seeing a male in tight pants they find it simply amusing and easier to critique versus a male dressed as a woman. 

Few days later i was at grocery store late at night wearing similar outfit only this time wearing my suede camel nubuck heel block booties. As i was looking in the vegetable section couple young black males walk by notice me beginning to laugh and mumble to one another. While i heard there laugh i stared upon them but they didn't look upon me only after they got to the end of the aisle one turned around staring. When the two men walked passed i noticed a female gym member walking my way around the corner. Often i see her at my gym but never do we chat or say a word to each other. Although we do notice each other at the gym often her seeing me in my many female yoga leggings. First time observing this female outside the gym, little disappointed upon her reaction. She instantly noticed my bootie heels doubt she ever seen me wearing heels. Her demeanour was sudden surprise wide eyed, then  rolling eyes head  up turning to the right, assumed she didn't like my attire to much. Didn't think her reaction is new, noticed her doing the same when i attired some new onyx blue leggings in the gym while ago. She often or always wears dark blue leggings herself so when she entered the gym floor noticed me her expression was surprise and annoyed figured it was the colour i had on similar to her leggings. In the store she shopped in the fruit section but virtually ignored me while i kept eye on her. 

Many woman i encounter not knowing me  overhearing there comments to others saying the word "he's in Drag or likes to be in drag", to describe me. Suppose when woman see me arrive in skinny jeans and heel booties they assume i'm a drag queen.  

 

Edited May 17, 2018 by MackyHeels

[Heelster]

Depending on the overall mentality of the community, I wouldn't be surprised. As I have joked before, there is no way in hell I would do that in my neck of the woods.

There are places where I might not think too much about it, and as you have read here before, many have no issues.

Your mileage may vary.

[Shyheels]

I wear skinny jeans all the time and as far as I know nobody notices - or at least I'n not aware of it. I'm certainly not going out looking for, or expecting, comments so I suppose I wouldn't notice anyway. I did have one funny episode where a stranger noticed my jeans though...I was on a busy street in India, chaos all around, and a rickshaw driver swerved and pulled up sharply beside me. The driver leaned over and called out that my fly was unzipped. I laughed and thanked him and did up the zipper; he waved and sped away, back into the swirling chaos of Bangalore traffic.  End of story.

Edited May 17, 2018 by Shyheels

[pebblesf]

Macky

I applaud  your courage and conviction buddy, so sorry that you have encountered some negative reactions lately.  I know it is unreasonable to expect positive reactions all the time, but a string of negative reactions is tough on the soul for sure.  I truly believe that some women react negatively because they feel threatened by a male's ability to pull of conventional female attire successfully, perhaps better than themselves. 

You are an inspiration, and should be proud of your ability to stand tall and wear what you want/like, regardless of some set backs....

[MackyHeels]

pebblesf

 

Thanks for the support. Suppose i'm use to unspoken  criticism of what i wear sort of goes with the territory. Don't feel bad or hurt as years ago because i don't know these people or will remember seeing the same people ever again, even if i walk along the same streets. So the result is who cares, don't know these people or care too, so what! is my response.. Although did observe following a woman on the street ahead in red very wide cut dress pants in black sandal heel 4" stiletos covered by the pants somewhat. Couldn't gain enough ground to see her face before she entered a drug store either to buy more makeup or condoms being it was Tuesday after the weekend. She appeared all dressed up out to do some damage and attractive at that with slim build tight waist and pants clinging along her hips as they flowed wide down to the  hems. 

Figured out or assumed a lot of reactions people made over the years about me. Guessing the difference of what some woman feel negatively because there jealous reactions are versus the ones that don't care but find me amusing. Those that ignore me or look angry after looking are the jealous type attitudes. Others that just laugh or find me amusing because they never seen someone wear outfits that tight before often don't care only entertained at the rare sight and odd style.

Agree nobody gets applauded or complimented  every time out wearing an outfit. For example observed this attractive married female who visits my workplace where her husband also works. She always wears the best designer clothes, heels, bags that money can buy. She visited once wearing a tight bodysuit with CL platform heels, she enjoys attention many give her observing the subtle queues reactions from people including me. She visited another time and wore different colour bodysuit again with different heels. This time she didn't hide or be escorted to or from place to place. She wanted to flaunt her style and sexy body in the tight bodysuit as before noticing peoples wide eyed, eyeball popping, wow stares including myself with the reactions as before. This time she and i overheard loud chuckling nearby as she passed me away from a group of people.

While i know the negative reactions i receive time to time but i felt so heart broken overhearing  it as she must of. Suffice to say she never ever  wore designer bodysuit again, to bad because her physique is beautiful and suits her wearing a sexy outfit as that. While i determined sometimes even beautiful woman can get negative reactions even though nothing was wrong wearing such clothing but people find it over the top thus laughing. While i tried to understand why people laughed at her it stems from envy, jealousy, because she has very wealthy husband and her clothing she wears isn't cheap and people notice. Also when you flaunt your beautiful  body or shape away from beach, gym, or pool your going to receive pushback that your clothing is far to revealing then the location demands. Don't be wearing sprinter tight spandex outfit when going to restaurant for dinner or casual bar for drinks. Sometimes the situation your in needs clothing to match the surroundings. So don't take it personally if someone reacts to your fashion miscues or bold style in negative manner. Least i know the beautiful married woman observes my outfits smiles, smirks at it, yet i know she means well even though she finds my style silly for any male to wear. Do feel on some of my outfits she finds them intriguing ready to match it or find something better. 

So any negative reactions i don't take it personally as i use to. Feel that woman get undeserved bad reactions so to as male i will inevitably get them also. When you try something different in fashion styles your bound to get unusual stares and outspoken negative criticisms.   

 

 

Edited May 19, 2018 by MackyHeels

[MackyHeels]

Not want to beat myself over again. Had to share another experience today when going shopping. Thought to wear my heel Rag & Bone harrow booties decided to leave them in the car. While i wore another suede female 1 1/2 inch block chelsea ankle pointed toe bootie from Asos.

http://www.asos.com/asos/asos-risked-it-suede-chelsea-boot/prd/4689505?iid=4689505&CTARef=Basket Page

Paired with Frame skinny medium wash jeans couple sizes bigger, snug fit but not super skin tight along with teal H&M stretch T-shirt. Added with Levis denim medium washed jacket. Was warm enough not needing the jacket, but felt better keeping my ID cards, loose parking change. in the pockets as my iphone X.

Well anyways i walked towards Nordstroms Rack thinking i could purchase nice pair of denim cutoffs that i seen online saving myself the delivery and time waiting to receive it. As i parked nearby street around a block away in a gay district only describing this because what happened in the store to give everyone a background setting and location.

So strolled over to Nordstroms Rack looking around noticing the mens section not much of anything to choose from but decided as i'm here why not take a look. Quickly i moved into the female section of the store looking at some denim jeans Fidelity, AG, Paige and short shorts but nothing caught my eye or something i didn't own already.

So as i browsed the woman section at the same time fully aware how i was being judged by other female shoppers. (Ever notice woman shopping mens department everyones fine with it roles reveresed male in female side browsing sudden stares) Few gals looked me over how i was dressed and my chelsea booties head to toe which i was wearing caught few eyeballs, no dramatic OMG stares. In fact i would say some may have liked the style or even just me seeing i had bit of glow from being out in the sun earlier in the week. Back of my mind i was thinking how the shoppers would react if i had on the Rag & Bone high heel booties instead.

Finally noticed the rack of shoes boots with the size 10 - 11 which was closer to my size. I handled a few heels from Nine west, Ivanka Trump, some lesser brands made out of plastic nothing great. Did strike my fancy finding the same Rag & Bone harrow booties in different suede colour i own but didn't feel to purchase already owning two pairs already. Also trying them on would of been a real rush noticing i was buying them for myself yet i didn't need to try any on knowing how tight they felt. So i was walking  away browsing smaller shoes just to check potential inventory that may have sold out in large woman sizes. As the aisle was crowded i minded my business until couple young asian girls maybe college age or slightly younger but definitely 18. One began to ask the other, What's he doing here? The other said, as they were making there way across passing me by no more then foot away from my face replies, "He's some sort of F#@King F%$@T"  without her blinking an eye just rolled off her tongue as she made those disparaging comments often to the gay community before.

While i don't take those comments to heart i knew these "ladies" for better term to describing them, being really angry about Gays in general for whatever reason. Be it she was visiting the gay village where the store was located. Has had difficulty meeting men or relationships in the past whatever the reason this woman had chip on her shoulder.  Knowing i wasn't gay last i checked Lol.. looking at the tag on the back of my t-shirt saying Mens i shrugged it off eyebrows up,  although many other woman had to hear them saying it, suppose many just minded there business even gave me a look over judging me in some manner. 

 My internal reaction was WOW! from the inflammatory  words spoken about gays. Thought  millennials not prejudice or little smarter but hearing this felt bad for the gay community that they must go through treatment from others. If i were black and same woman said Fk'n N word  they probably been yelled upon who you calling N@#%. 

As a test i wore my chelsea booties found i would of been treated same if had on my heel booties at the store. I'm sure there would of been more smirks from the ladies who were checking out my booties or overall outfit and tanned appearance. Maybe just maybe after the outlandish comment about me, some woman shopping nearby overhearing could of felt pity. Assuming me being  gay having heels on i was assuredly  would fit the gay stereotype, someone would of complimented me or comfort me from the insulting comments or not. 

After time pondering what insults i gotten or what i could of replied back towards the asian females. Just laughing at these ladies, one there asian don't they receive prejudice also after the gays, blacks, jews, muslims  obese people what do they think if i made and easy ethnic wise crack about them. Such as telling her friend asking about my presence in the woman section i doubt your friend can see well through her squinty eyes. 

 

Society as whole often shows great tolerance yet when our young adults have issues on different minority groups be gays, or males in female clothes it troubling for everyone. Sure is isolated incident but only those words are often spoken not to be heard behind clothes doors if your so inclined. In public its just nasty and when heard by another hard head individual conflicts arise no matter the consequences. 

 

 

 

Edited May 21, 2018 by MackyHeels

[CAT]

I have never had anything like that said to me.  But you can best believe I would have said something right back, and it would not have been as nice as what your comment could have been.  

[Shyheels]

They send like deeply unpleasant people - leave them to their own squalid blinkered existences and move on. Expecting enlightenment from "Millennials" is as much a play to stereotype as expecting certain stereotypical behaviour from blacks, gays, Asians, WASPS, guys who wear heels, you name it. There are people like that everywhere, but happily for the world the really are in a small minority.   

2 minutes ago, CAT said:

I have never had anything like that said to me.  But you can best believe I would have said something right back, and it would not have been as nice as what your comment could have been.  

And the way the world and justice works, you'd have probably been busted for racial abuse...

[CAT]

Prob right but I would let them know who the a%#*€le is. I am a giver but have zero patience and tolerance for people like that in daley life, work or pleasure 

[MackyHeels]

1 hour ago, Shyheels said:

They send like deeply unpleasant people - leave them to their own squalid blinkered existences and move on. Expecting enlightenment from "Millennials" is as much a play to stereotype as expecting certain stereotypical behaviour from blacks, gays, Asians, WASPS, guys who wear heels, you name it. There are people like that everywhere, but happily for the world the really are in a small minority.   

And the way the world and justice works, you'd have probably been busted for racial abuse...

Any sort of quick quip reply the asian gal wasn't looking me in the face. She could always use plausible deniability i wasn't talking about you or to you, sort of excuse. Then if cornered she yells murder and everyone comes running to a women's defence not fully understanding the circumstances. Woman are always being threatened never the man in verbal abuse or physical altercation. In any vain many would side with the  female in woman's department being a single male is out of place no business shopping except bothering irritating woman or taking up aisle space.. 

Do understand her observation of me came long before i realized they were approaching. Yes, without a doubt i was best dressed in the store, my FRAME skinny jeans looked fabulous if i can use that word, even in the store you couldn't buy similar wash or cut of denim and the brand. Added to it my lean toned legs, fit athletic appearance is something woman only inspire to look like.

All those negative remarks fade  at how funny at the different experiences other woman shopping had while i browsed and observed. One female asked Stock girl to read her label of the size she was wearing of the thong. The lady bent over stared upon me with surprise pulling out her strap.  The stock girl while shocked saying sure with OMG tone she owned the same cute panties,  as expected i  loved it precious reaction Lol.... As i walked by few woman one asked another for opinion of some sparkling flat sneakers if they were too much. The other woman replied no not at all she could see herself wearing exactly the same. While i puckered my mouth closed finding them gaudy and truly something she will wear once and leaving in the closet to collect dust. Did see her stare upon me as if i would share my opinion but i just moved along quietly. l

Could tell these short pudgy asian gals were no prize winners only angry at themselves not wearing clothes they love or seeing me in. These Pork chop asian gals observing me initially was like red colour for a bull charging in.

This was my first "I HATE YOU" remark without admitting to themselves my fashionable style works. When woman openly remark about someone or pick on them something gotta rub them the wrong way. It is telling tail of root cause in fact i take it as compliment styling myself in a subdued manner. Lol...I know i will sleep well tonight but can't be said about the two gals most likely be angrier next morning.

Telling herself dam it, couldn't find single piece of clothes i would wear in the store shopping. Even this F@%K gay guy i seen, dresses better then me and most woman in the store. AGHHH....

Edited May 21, 2018 by MackyHeels

[Shyheels]

I have always found in dealing with people like that - nasty people in general - humour is the most devastating weapon. A quick and witty response keeps you on the safe side of the law, clear of the mud, and puts you in good with anyone else present but leaves them smouldering with rage. They hate mockery and the idea of being laughed at, being insecure themselves. They are never terribly bright so you can run rings around them if need be. But usually just a quip will do it - leaves them flushed, belittled and angry and you go whistling off on your way.   

Edited May 21, 2018 by Shyheels

[Bubba136]

Those of us that don’t follow the established norms are always going to suffer derogatory looks, comments and ire of those that do.  This is the price we that dare to be different have to pay.  Those of us that aren’t willing to put up with rude behavior from others concerning our proclivities,  should rejoin the “normals” and quit doing anything that might attract any attention to us.    I know, it’s easier said than doing.  But after 40 years of exclusively wearing female shoes, I am no longer bothered by such behavior.  In fact, once I deduced that it was not possible for me to  stop wearing heels,  I stopped worrying, noticing, or caring about what others thought about me and my girls shoes.   And, I sleep just fine.  

[Shyheels]

Was it Emerson who said: What you think of me is none of my business. It's a good outlook. 

[Steve63130]

Bubba,

I have followed your advice over the years exactly as you said and I have never had an experience like MackyHeels had. Most of the time I'm totally ignored.

Steve

[Gudulitooo]

Hi MackyHeels,
I have read a few of your posts and appreciated your pictures. Here are some asumptions regarding how people react at you and some ideas you may try.

Jealousy.

You certainly have a nice body and work a lot to stay in shape. Also the clothes you wear are fitting you well. I am tall. I am not as slim as you. Going to the gym is not an option for me.  I understand that other people have problems you may not experience.

As for the guys... They can't afford their girlfriend appreciating your attire and having them wear the same. Too much gym needed, we are not superman in tights, should we ??

Territory / unfair attack

This is a women's shop so they can relax and bend over to have the clerck read the size label of their thongs LOL... (Never saw this myself.. ROFL) No competition for males. Like after the gym in the locker room.

But wait ... A male is approaching undercover ! Is he prepared to discover that reality ? Are they going to suffer his presence ? He is preventing them from relaxing fter all. Well if he were gay, or better, a drag, that would be easier. No competition. We can share our little secrets. Pfffiouu. Grin. Smirk.

Apparel

From your pictures it seems you are dealing well with bulge related problems (such as dancers). You may take videos of you walking and double check this.

Also your fashion choices may be preferred by young women or teens depending on your area. Women are cruel with older women dressing as teens or with skirt length  related issues.

Eg I have wrinkles. Maybe I should start by taking care of my skin instead of being interested by shoes.

Luxury / need / superficial = bimbo= ridiculous

It is not granted that the women you encounter can care so much (time, money) about how they present as they think you are (it is an extra effort to present a new fashion that you were not born nor raised for, is it ?)

Attitude

The pictures don't tell your demeanor. Be sure not to constantly check the other's reaction and complete attire. This is very hard I know, but where I live it is unpolite. Prefer quick eye contact. Also it seems you are wary of bad comments, which in turn may attract them.

Uncompleteness

If you wanted to pass as a woman, well you forgot about the face / hair / make up stuff...

And conversely...

Waste

I suppose you are handsome. The ladies are in love with you....  wait, there is something wrong. Where's James Bond suit or smart casual polo ? Is he prefering men ? What a pity !! Another so beautiful and well spirited man is lost !!!

Perv = danger

Where have wandered his eyes to know so well the other side of the store ?  What's in his head ? Is he looking at me ? Is he palying with the clothes - in the clothes ? Will he suddenly show his genitals ? Where is my son ?

I mean ... Seriously there are so many gruesome stories, fictions, series, movies, ...

Wrong asumption.

From the pictures I would say you have the heigth of average women but I may be wrong. Wearing heels could be thougth either as a way to be taller, which is not really noble for men, who better accept their body (hair problems for example). Or as a surender (too small to be a man you may give up and be a woman ?).

Please forgive me for being that direct.

 

Edited May 23, 2018 by Gudulitooo
forgot one funny idea

[MackyHeels]

Thanks Gudulitooo for your reply. 

Basically i cause dissonance amongst woman i see often.  Do i care if some woman hate? Sure but if they don't eventually change there mindset with regards of my appearance then i stay clear ignoring them best i can. 

When i notice some females sit on the fence with me is frustrating. Just yesterday seen cute asian young female with her boyfriend at the gym. While i appear minding my business i observed the asian glancing upon me. She was well dressed and fit cute body. Once the couple walked towards me finishing there workout overheard the asian gal ask her boyfriend, "What you think of him"? (meaning me) as i was working out. The boyfriend replied, "he looks awful". She quipped back, "No! i mean his body".  He replied, mumbling as they passed by, "same thing he looks bad". Suppose the asian gal found me intriguing enough to ask opinion from someone else yet knew my outfit wasn't traditional for a male to wear. Yet she deep down found my physique worthy to discuss. 

What i hate about the experience from the asian gal wasn't the judgement from the boyfriend nor my suspicion she thought my outfit outlandish to be wearing. It was that asian girlfriend needs opinions of someone in order to make her mind up on what she believes deep down as pleasing to the eyes to watch.

As for guys being jealous of there girlfriends have many experiences in the gym where the cute females ask to use certain equipment and i insist we can share. Before long the boyfriend comes along C@#& blocks me. Standing with back facing me chatting his girlfriend not giving us a chance to get to know one another or look at one another.

Always wondering what woman's opinions of me are. Are they afraid, self-conscious,  find me just a waste as you  Gudulitooo stated in your reply. 

As today seen these two very attractive twin asians lean young early 20's woman. One of the twins has a boyfriend she always clings to. Her reactions to me are smirks often acting as she doesn't care what i wear, may chuckle to her boyfriend about me time to time. Only when she seen me last week in colour outfit her twin sister wore earlier in the week but cheaper brand then mine. The eyeballs were bulging and stares upon me of what thought was envy and jealousy her pulse rate went up definitely a reaction towards me.. While her twin sister is more muted in character stares upon me mouth ajar intrigued at every outfit i wear which is different most of the time. In fact she wears more stylish outfits then her sister's mundane black leggings or cheaper brands. Often the stylish twin makes me laugh at the intense stares she gives me while i workout. Very obvious tell tail signs there is jealousy in her eyes and envy about my attire and maybe my body. Today the both sisters were on two bench's side by side. While i came looking for a spot the one asian twin left with her boyfriend leaving her sister behind. As i moved in to workout on the bench that was vacated. As i began to workout the well dressed asian twin just stared upon me between her exercises, while i tried to ignore it i found it amusing knowing why. Goes to show you they both are intrigued but afraid to speak to me openly about what they see.  Even a polite hello or smile is difficult for them to portray or compliment of my new outfits they love. 

Like the above reply stated some woman assume the worst or wrongly. Believing no point to invest time or effort giving up upon me when, he assuredly wants to be a woman. 

Nothing to forgive being direct only some of your assumptions are correct.  My attitude is let woman venture talking to me first because of what you mentioned the perv factor. Don't want to start with someone that feels uncomfortable or uneasy about me. Best let them begin a relationship if they desire finding me intriguing or just precious to know. If not i go about my business not caring or realizing  from there prospected that i ignore them. 

 

Edited May 23, 2018 by MackyHeels

[Shyheels]

I have to say I am staggered by the number and frequency of situations like these in which you seem to find yourself. 

[MackyHeels]

5 minutes ago, Shyheels said:

I have to say I am staggered by the number and frequency of situations like these in which you seem to find yourself. 

Only because i don't turn the volume down. Wear what i enjoy and let the cards fall where they may. People believe i'm crazy don't have the body to wear it or the shame or modesty most people have. Makes me outsider and people need to assume and knit pick my every outfit. Some like it other not so much either way time ticks on and we move on with our lives.  You can call me a child of circumstance big baby but one who loves what he does. 

[Shyheels]

Maybe its Canadians. I've read JeffB's columns - he certainly doesn't turn the volume down but he doesn't seem to run into these sorts of situations. Nor CAT either. 

Edited May 23, 2018 by Shyheels

[MackyHeels]

56 minutes ago, Shyheels said:

Maybe its Canadians. I've read JeffB's columns - he certainly doesn't turn the volume down but he doesn't seem to run into these sorts of situations. Nor CAT either. 

We are all different in our own special ways neither the names mentioned have same style or appearance. It's the exhibitionist in me that many females never seen someone so bold. Matter of fact whatever someone thinks of me they got to agree i have superior confidence that many woman i see day to day don't for whatever reasons. 

 

Most importantly i vow never to be out-shined out dressed by any female in the room only because how it effects my psyche. Maybe because i don't give respect on the way some women style themselves modestly. While i smirk or sneer at there outfits comparing myself knowing the style i present is fetching and beating many woman to the punch of there reactions towards me. Most times that i can remember i come out the winner. Many believing if i'm so well attired he must put a lot of money and effort into it thus so into himself, self centered.  

https://youtu.be/THeLVhU53ow

While doing errands today i decided to wear sneakers not heels amount of running around and limited time i had. While at a grocery store heard and seen one woman in heels all day. She had on skinny dark washed jeans, moto leather jacket and ankle suede 3" heel booties. Thought the booties looked cheap and were to high above the ankle and wide at the leg. She was a mom seen her with her 8 year old daughter. Doubt she cared what i thought but had smile on her face liking her style. Felt the booties did add little more to her outfit then generic sneakers or flats would as many woman had been wearing most of the day. Even if i worn my chelsea flat pointed toe block 1 1/2" heel booties i wouldn't look right in skinny jeans for the same problem mentioned about the mother in her booties. if i wore my 4" heel black booties with my distressed skinny jeans and green field jacket i seen through the day many woman eyeballing me in. Then i be looked upon with envy by many even some eyebrows raised. Seen Pilates old grandma female instructor at Costco  buying diapers while i waited in line to cash out. Felt only time wishing to have worn my heel booties rather my sneakers to see her reaction to my outfit. What i learned today don't always outfit yourself for comfort only because your in a hurry. Take your time and you be surprised how others may observe you. In fact many might copy the same outfit i had on because of a chance of rain that day. In fact seen young woman talking alongside another woman. She had on green safari jacket similar to my field jacket. While i glanced seeing what she was wearing i knew subtly her eyes noticed me also pausing in her conversation with the woman to look at me. 

 

Edited May 23, 2018 by MackyHeels

[pebblesf]

Well Macky, I would consider your latest gym experience a success.  The Asian girl was obviously intrigued by your appearance, and might secretly be hoping she/you could influence her boyfriend to add some style to his wardrobe.  The guy's reply was predictable, he was never going to say he liked the way you looked in front of his girlfriend, but I'll bet he might have been trying to "sneak a closer peak"....

The "creep factor" is a problem we all need to be wary of.  Our love of fashion/heels/boots is often related to some sort of creepy pervert behavior, and we need to realize that there are creeps out there who love to mess with women's clothing for all the wrong reasons.  Obviously, you are confident, and don't sneak around, so no one could ever accuse you of "being creepy".  But, many of us are a bit timid, and this is often seen as "creepy".  It is so important for us to "own our look/style/heels/fashions" to avoid this unfair label.  This is one reason I wish I had more boot buddies, for me the "confidence in numbers" theory would certainly help me in public situations.  I have gotten much better over the years though. 

[MackyHeels]

5 hours ago, pebblesf said:

Well Macky, I would consider your latest gym experience a success.  The Asian girl was obviously intrigued by your appearance, and might secretly be hoping she/you could influence her boyfriend to add some style to his wardrobe.  The guy's reply was predictable, he was never going to say he liked the way you looked in front of his girlfriend, but I'll bet he might have been trying to "sneak a closer peak"....

The "creep factor" is a problem we all need to be wary of.  Our love of fashion/heels/boots is often related to some sort of creepy pervert behavior, and we need to realize that there are creeps out there who love to mess with women's clothing for all the wrong reasons.  Obviously, you are confident, and don't sneak around, so no one could ever accuse you of "being creepy".  But, many of us are a bit timid, and this is often seen as "creepy".  It is so important for us to "own our look/style/heels/fashions" to avoid this unfair label.  This is one reason I wish I had more boot buddies, for me the "confidence in numbers" theory would certainly help me in public situations.  I have gotten much better over the years though. 

Don't find it positive experience about the asian girl discussing me with the boyfriend. Pebblesf your instincts are correct many times paired couples discuss about me. Most of the males are quick to pick-up the queues there girlfriend comments. Usually it leads to the boyfriend asking a question back to her. As to say, you like that? Is it important to you what you see? What specifically  you see that you like? Let me guess you like his big bulge? In many cases as the one i mentioned in my earlier reply it's just a simple inquiry from her nothing more. We all can assume what she was thinking but my experience taught me few things over the years.   

She just wanted to have approval that her boyfriend thought also my body or physique is fit and inspiring. She could then later chat  complimenting that her boyfriend and her believe i look good. This way she can disarm me believing it was only a compliment, not a pickup line, or to start a relationship without me questioning her motives and agenda. Doubt very much the asian girls  caucasian boyfriend wanting to look at me closer. Only thing he maybe thinking is wishing his girlfriend never laid her eye onto me to begin with. Only leads him to categorize what his girlfriend likes or wants about a man to look like. This query making him feel self-conscious, angry not being able  satisfying his woman wanting more. We all know woman always want more!

Doubt the asian gal was hinting to the boyfriend to dress like me. In fact many couples laugh at that same idea. Only because the male can't quite match the way i look or very least fear inferior to what they are showing being so exposed in yoga leggings and compression short tank top. Or for better terms men don't want to be compared with me with the bulge size, thus being judged. When some males do try to copy my style half heartedly they notice certain woman observing them closer,  amusing to see it all take place. Woman's desires, intrigue, lusts while the males fears paranoid looks knowing there about to be judge yet pull down there loose shirts carefully covering up to be seen.  Yes, there is no shortage of different woman having one track mind for men's bodies. They often don't hide there intrigue about me in fact enjoy the view or discussing with like minded females in certain matters pertaining to my features openly. 

 

Edited May 23, 2018 by MackyHeels

[Bubba136]

19 hours ago, MackyHeels said:

Only because i don't turn the volume down. Wear what i enjoy and let the cards fall where they may. People believe i'm crazy don't have the body to wear it or the shame or modesty most people have. Makes me outsider and people need to assume and knit pick my every outfit. Some like it other not so much either way time ticks on and we move on with our lives.  You can call me a child of circumstance big baby but one who loves what he does. 

Reminds me of the time went bowling and the looks I got when I my finished my games and changed back into the pair of black leather 6” stiletto heels that I was wearing when we arrived at the Bowling Lanes.

[Gudulitooo]

On 5/23/2018 at 8:23 AM, MackyHeels said:

Thanks Gudulitooo for your reply.

Nothing to forgive being direct only some of your assumptions are correct.  My attitude is let woman venture talking to me first because of what you mentioned the perv factor. Don't want to start with someone that feels uncomfortable or uneasy about me. Best let them begin a relationship if they desire finding me intriguing or just precious to know. If not i go about my business not caring or realizing  from there prospected that i ignore them.  

 

Macky,

I may well have forgotten a dozen of asumptions or more !!

Reading your latest posts one correction come to mind : jealously should be erased from the list, and remplaced with awe.  This always happen to me : encountering a guy or a woman with a nicely built body I just only can stare in awe. Not jalously, not amusement. Just respect.

But also, this makes some distance. Letting woman talking to you first..... You are the man so you are supposed to break the ice first. I think you are single, and this is clearly a problem for your relationships because there are possibilities involved. (e.g. you entering a discussion may be understood as a flirt, either by thr girl or her boyfriend).

Here are some advices (from a guy that is very bad at relationships !) : forget about the aforementioned possibilities. Open your mind. Find a topic and start chatting. Interest yourself in the people you meet at the gym. Ask them. Who are they. What is your name. Do you like the place. Is the water warm enough in the shower. How to they find the time for the gym with the job, children, dog, house ? The clothes ? Oh I like colors aren't you ? Ask anything unsignificant, but related to them, not you. People like to talk and discover you also can talk would clearly help them find you more human.

Also never forget the smile. A pleasant one, friendly, just to brighten the place.

Look at these guys. https://weilspasst.tumblr.com/   . Many could wear 3" booties as well as you. And tight jeans.

 

Regarding the bulge. I can't help but think at Gerard Vives who I watched when he participated TV funny games, he was very funny.

Later I discovered he starred in 170 episodes of a 80's soap that has been programmed over and over on the french TV (even nowadays), but I didn't like his character's demeanor. (Have a look eg at 10'30 and at 21'30, there is no need to have sound  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4BrjkkYT9g.). I never thought of the bulge in his outfits though.

But you can retain that his character was so open with everybody.

 

Edited May 24, 2018 by Gudulitooo

[Gudulitooo]

I found this guy wears skinnys and heels pretty well.

He is not fit though. He has a stylist company

https://www.instagram.com/kaseimmorris/

 

[MackyHeels]

Gudulitooo thanks for the advice sounds good. In my situation is slight difference on how woman who seen for long time perceive me  and how i observed them carefully. 

For example woman have no trouble chatting me up.  One female who seemed very nerdy, sheltered but pleasantly friendly doesn't take herself all to seriously. No makeup very tom boyish, recognized me somewhere and decided chatting me up. As time went on i realized she had boyfriend yet found her very friendly and engaging to everyone smiling happy,  a laughing demeanour. Thought she accepted my style observing that she didn't seemed to mind or talk about it treated me with respect unlike others.

Well not to long ago her boyfriend which never talks to me telling sign what he thinks of me, began to comment to his girlfriend. He made remarks observing critiquing how awful i appear. Then his cheery eyed girlfriend began to nod in agreement without a smile but stoic expression unlike her. Thought at the time the boyfriend was little worried of me about his girlfriend would become to friendly and he couldn't compete with the likes of me physically in the bedroom. Knowing he was pushing his girlfriend competing in fitness pageants having her gain confidence changing style. From bland nerdy gal to sexy fake tan fit muscle toned bikini heel wearing clad diva. Keeping track of her IG account and pictures on stage with  body makeup, lipstick, heels, hair colour, skimpy bikini still no thong as of yet, she's becoming very confident young woman. 

While i compliment her well deserved accomplishments watching her grow into very physically genetically gifted sexy woman. There was experience locked in my brain about her i focused on. Observing her glaring upon me while i rode stationary bike  beside me we were doing the same cardio exercise. She arrived next to me we shared our greeting but she just observed me in that smirky, snubbing kind of manner  unlike her, most woman do, or many you have experienced before no doubt. Looking me over as she never seen me wear leggings ever. Don't know if it was the colour of them which was subdued  pastel like, or that my outfit compliments me well rather i assumed she thought i looked silly, seeing she agreed not to long ago with her boyfriends comments about me. I seen her stare but said nothing but knew it wasn't good, if what i was wearing is fine she would said something nice as i do to her seeing some leopard leggings she wears.  Ever since i decided to ignore her because of her two face opinion of me. Outwardly she smiles becomes polite saying hello but truthfully behind my back finds my style horrible, silly, for male to wear. Even have doubts she believes my body looks good never saying a word of the exercises i do etc.. Think it's her boyfriend being personal trainer that he believes he knows best critiquing others being misinformed with exercise techniques and form knowing what a pleasing physique appears like. 

Only by mistake we said hello to each other her smiling seeing i rounded a corner down corridor not aware who she was initially. Otherwise working out beside her i focus on my workout  never speaking or addressing her at all. Although most gym rats don't want to chit chat much wanting to finish there workout quickly. 

While other older married females with kids are intrigued with me or noticing something that that caught there eye needing to befriend. Initially they assume i'm gay later confused with my experiences i share asking aren't you gay? Then are surprised or feel awkward believing he was a gay but in reality isn't. Then when i compliment them to point they know i'm attracted to them they are flattered telling me there satisfied enough with there partner and family. Yet they want to help me telling me how other ladies perceive me in secret. Telling me they believe your gay for starters yet she works hard to change women's mindset of the likes of my appearance. Even subtly tries to change my attire in help in attracting more woman.   Saying such things to me, everyone needs someone to ask how they look when styling oneself,  we need another persons eye seeing how we look, don't you think? Finally she gives up telling i should  try to visit gay communities on my vacation telling me i might have fun. Understanding her hints i decided someone like her and friends just don't get guys like us in this community. Clothes don't make someone gay nor has anything to do with your sexual orientation. Yet people like her find the stereotype valid not changing there beliefs. Suffice to say i stay clear of her maybe she finds my distance indicative to making a play for her being rejected pitying me. While in truth don't appreciate her subtle hints i'm gay or don't know it yet. Also the fact seeing me in street clothes or leggings her judgemental mentality in jest telling me i have permission to wear certain attire be it flat female strappy sandals comparing hers as having accented costume jewelry embellishments. Find it all to mentally taxing knowing others view you differently unaccepting my choices in style be them feminine or not is only disappointing.

 

People may have a phoney smile on there face greeting me but the truth is they hate or find my style in bad taste or completely wrong. Rather not knowing these people to begin with  rather listening to there snarky, subtle comments of my appearance day in day out. Burns too many calories to be listening to something i don't agree or are offended hearing. Yet they believe they mean well in helping a dude out seemingly believing i have a good heart but poor judgement in fact they just annoy the hell out of me. 

Or another example of diva i observe reading her social media construct beliefs dreams sounds all to abnormal. Gives me insight directly who she really is. She talks about being angry not achieving the goals of superficial physique. Having doubts, self conscious  how others perceived her body shy depressed. Now she is bold and mindset to achieving anything and everything she wants. Creating a business selling herself as fitness instructor. She gathered so much knowledge from everywhere to become confident goal oriented diva she is today. 

Fast forward how she treats me. For starters we probably have same problems once upon a time  how people we perceived treat us but her open mind accepting herself not being perfect is admirable. Yet when seeing me she is disturbed even envious looking the other way. Catching her buying the same leggings i've been wearing. Often walks in front of me flaunting herself or attire to make it known she can style herself just as impeccably as me. While she has a boyfriend i respect that leave her be, find watching her posts or reading her thoughts on social media enlightening even amusing showing her confidence.

Had encounter stuck in my mind how she treats me. Was working out nearby nowhere to lay my towel down busy gym. Rested it on empty dumbbell rack beside me plenty room to lay other weights down nowhere in the way for anyone i'm mindful of that..  While i was clearly exercising next to the rack she was on the opposite side using the bench plenty of room. She put back her dumbbells but threw my towel on the ground next to me. All the empty spaces but she decided to use the one furthest in the corner tossing my towel on the floor. That was a sign of disrespect not even asking can you take your towel please.. nothing!  How can someone attempting to clearly change her life in meaningful ways become such a bitch towards me.  Even in the pool seen her first time attempting to swim. She made comment to anyone listening that she hasn't swam for long time. Nobody responded but i smiled gleefully sitting in the whirlpool observing what was transpiring her long preparation on the pool deck. Something told me she was flaunting herself on purpose making herself known to the people around the pool yet none said a thing. Only i grinned smiling while the receptionist from the desk in the gym measuring the ph balance in the water stared noticing my intrigue to the diva. Nothing transpired i joined her later doing laps but she seemed never recognizing  a fit speedo wearing guy like myself. At her exit she appeared to take a picture of the pool me in it but i think she wanted something to post on her IG account, seen her bring tripod and SLR camera while she did exercises in the gym. 

Some woman are so into themselves are blind towards people have different outlook in life.  What we wear  or how you want to look. While some who struggle with same problems do exactly to us they been fighting about. How can i turn the other cheek while having stuff thrown down upon my feet. 

My mentality is stay away from angry woman that show there disdain be jealousy or other underlying issues brought to them. One good way i found testing how woman appealing towards me is there expressions once seeing me wear the colour pink. Pink is favourite colour woman love wearing but seeing on a male they find it disturbing even lose any faith going to the stereotype of he is gay assumptions. You may say what's the point in wearing such a colour it weeds out or filters the females that can accept my choices of attire without judgement undeterred. Also the point wearing the colour pink is those woman that find the style a favourite i wear it then observe me with dissonance . They can't help love the colour or hue, tone of it but hate me wearing it brings out interesting reaction. As your first assumption is correct AWE factor is underrated watching certain woman i know there style to be. Brings a spectacular reaction towards my colour and complimentary attire inspiring and envy for most woman. If i had photo of there sudden open mouth stunned expressions seeing me in certain attire words not needed to be spoken to describe what they are feeling. 

Just as i realized yesterday at the gym seeing one of the twin asian females outfitted light gray heathered leggings and white printed tank top. She wanted me to react with the Awe! expression with bulging eyes, shocked disbelief how beautiful she looks. She got that from me while walking passed fetching her  boyfriend as they both walked exiting the gym from the cardio equipment. With her subtle observation in front of me she noticed my Awe reaction and she showed a slight smirk satisfaction with herself.  Although the boyfriend noticed while wiping down the equipment looking at her smiling appearance, slight danger zone the attractive beauty is playing game with. Shown pictured  below what she sort of looked like. Only i smiled not shying away because i knew she needed to work on her physique much more, yet admired her not covering up like other gals do.  Maybe that's one thing we have in common or has rubbed off on her about me, show your flaws for everyone to see. We are not perfect specimens.

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So too woman enjoy the Awe inspired reactions from people including males they find attractive. Call it a unspoken flirt but we all know what we like to see and observe. Yet many female notice and want my stamp of approval what they are wearing is attractive. When i virtually ignore them it causes them to rethink what they are wearing or find it disappointing. Or when i try not to react at how cheap or ill fitting females outfit appears sometimes they clearly notice. Woman often say they love to wear  a great gym outfit. It actually makes someone workout better seeing they find themselves in a motivated excited state of joy.

 

 

Edited May 24, 2018 by MackyHeels

[pebblesf]

8 hours ago, Gudulitooo said:

I found this guy wears skinnys and heels pretty well.

He is not fit though. He has a stylist company

https://www.instagram.com/kaseimmorris/

 

Yeah buddy, he does look great...

[Gudulitooo]

I still have to read your post Macky !

In the meantime, I found this videos (there seem to be a lot of the same kind on youtube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4IhT1lDInc

He has a problem with the bulge at 2:55 and at 3:50.

He finds solutions later

[Cali]

I think part of is your predisposition. Kill them with kindness.

I had three encounters yesterday with people I had never meet over my heels.  

The first was when I came out of a building and saw two women  walking across in front of me look down at my heels. Before they could form an opinion I said "don't you just love them" as I continued walking across campus to pick up some papers from another office. I try to help them form a positive opinion of men in heels. Just using the old jedi mind tricks on them - "Let the force be with you".    

After leaving that office I had the second encounter. An Asian woman came up behind me and said "your feet must hurt walking in those heels." Since was walking in the same direction along a path between buildings I engaged her in conversation.  First I informed her I wouldn't be walking in them if they hurt and I wear heels to relieve pain.  It turns out she can wear heels and more. Could this be jealousy? I hope I changed her opinion about a man in heels. She turned at the end of path to go to her car as I continued, running into the third encounter just 100 meters away.

When this third woman joined the path she immediately said "I love your heels."  We had a small chat about men in heels. Turns out she lives in San Francisco and frequently sees men in heels at parties with no indication of gay, straight, it doesn't matter. She said that some are now wearing leggings, shining or faux leather.  I hope I run into her again, real soon!

Edited May 25, 2018 by Cali

[Gudulitooo]

15 hours ago, MackyHeels said:

For example woman have no trouble chatting me up.  One female who seemed very nerdy, sheltered but pleasantly friendly doesn't take herself all to seriously. No makeup very tom boyish, recognized me somewhere and decided chatting me up. As time went on i realized she had boyfriend yet found her very friendly and engaging to everyone smiling happy,  a laughing demeanour. Thought she accepted my style observing that she didn't seemed to mind or talk about it treated me with respect unlike others.

Well not to long ago her boyfriend which never talks to me telling sign what he thinks of me, began to comment to his girlfriend. He made remarks observing critiquing how awful i appear. Then his cheery eyed girlfriend began to nod in agreement without a smile but stoic expression unlike her. Thought at the time the boyfriend was little worried of me about his girlfriend would become to friendly and he couldn't compete with the likes of me physically in the bedroom.

I think the blue sentence is a too quick conclusion. You are relating this to you and to sexual competition.

What if the guy preferred an absolutely smooth existence so that his ennemis cannot take advantage of extra weaknesses (just like politicians are judge also on their relatives) ? Being good friend with his girlfriend means she may also chat with you outside of the gym. For exemple if you run into her - and some of her friends.

I suggest you keep on being friendly with her at the gym. Should you encounter her elsewhere you may just say hello politely and continue your business.