Highest Walking Heels

[Jkrenzer]

On 4/28/2022 at 6:18 AM, mlroseplant said:

Probably the reason why they look tarty and fetishy is because almost nobody can walk in them, and what good is a shoe if you can't actually walk in it? Bingo.

Not very many years ago, giant platformed monstrosities with 15 or 16 cm heels were quite fashionable (think Louboutin Daffodile, et al.). Those were not necessarily fetishy. Heck, pianist Yuja Wang to this day wears similar for every concert, even though she has toned the rest of her look down considerably from what it was pre-pandemic. I think a lot of it has to do with not actually being able to use single soled shoes over 12 cm for their intended purpose. I would be willing to bet money that even Ms. Wang could not negotiate Hot Chicks, as least not well enough to present them in public.

Agreed, 5.25 is my true limit to look human while walking on flat surfaces. Get any downhill incline even 5 inch start looking odd, knees naturally bend to keep the weight behind the balls of my feet. Once the weight shifts forward you literally start to roll forward out of your shoes. At least I do anyway. 

[Histiletto]

I wear these Jimmy Choo Eros Pumps that have the equivalent height of 12.73 cm (5.01 inches). The stiletto heel measures at 15.72cm (6.19 inches) and the platform measures at 3cm (1.18 inches).  Due to their styling and the platforms, they look quite a bit taller than they feel. I have other 4 to 5" stiletto pumps that aren't as comfortable to wear and as easy to gracefully walk in. However, most of the time I'm wearing heels in the 3.75 to 4.5 inch range, like these:   

Edited April 30, 2022 by Histiletto

[mlroseplant]

23 hours ago, Jkrenzer said:

Agreed, 5.25 is my true limit to look human while walking on flat surfaces. Get any downhill incline even 5 inch start looking odd, knees naturally bend to keep the weight behind the balls of my feet. Once the weight shifts forward you literally start to roll forward out of your shoes. At least I do anyway. 

I think that's probably about right. I've never seen anybody, even online, who can negotiate much higher than that without major awkwardness. Yes, Alexandra Potter can do some amazing things in ballet heels, but I'd really like to see her in regular 6 inch heels, and see how she does. I think the mechanics are different. In any case, none of that is in my destiny. If I can manage to get up to 120 mm, I should be happy with that.

I ran across this the other day, and it is rather impressive. To have the ankle flexibility to take such long strides and still keep the knees straight. I wonder how this would translate to steeper heels?

 

[pebblesf]

On 4/29/2022 at 6:50 AM, Jkrenzer said:

Agreed, 5.25 is my true limit to look human while walking on flat surfaces. Get any downhill incline even 5 inch start looking odd, knees naturally bend to keep the weight behind the balls of my feet. Once the weight shifts forward you literally start to roll forward out of your shoes. At least I do anyway. 

It would be cool to attend some sort of high heel "training" like this!

[SF]

Ref the video.  Interesting that man man is teaching a woman how to walk in very high heels.  Assuming the man knows and has experienced walking in heels, why is he not wearing heels as well to demonstrate (teach) by example.  Anything less is like teaching someone how to ride a bicycle when the instructor has never ridden a bicycle.  Curious.  smile...    sf

[Chorlini]

On 4/28/2022 at 1:32 AM, Cali said:

Market driven, Law of Large Numbers. Do you want 50% of a small market or 5% of a huge market. If I write an entry level book and get 10% of the market, that could mean 500,000 copies sold whereas a high end book might get 80% of the market and sell only 30,000 copies.  The ideal situation is 80% of a large market. 

On the other, why ignore a growing market, as women are getting bigger feet, in favor of trying to catch a small corner of a heavily competitive market? Also, 10% of the main market would probably mean selling shoes for like what, $20 a pair, whereas 80% of that smaller market may demand a higher price because they have so little options. So big market, 500.000 times $20 a pair means you gross $10.000.000. Small market 30.000 times $120 per pair you gross $3.600.000. Assuming it costs $10 to make the cheap pairs it costs you $5.000.000 to produce your shoes. whereas the high small market shoes cost 3 times more to make, $30 a pair. It will cost you 900.000 to make. Throw in mass market marketing to reach that larger market segment, as you also have to compete with aggressive marketing from your competitors. Whereas if you own 80% of that small market, you don't have to do much marketing at all. In the end the profit margins on the mass market shoes will be quite low and those of the niche market will be much lower, so the final profit you can bank might be more identical for less effort. That has always been what differentiates the two business models. Niche market means you can demand niche prices. Mass market means you must ship a lot to make up for smaller margins.

On 4/28/2022 at 3:42 AM, Shyheels said:

Because heels higher than 12cm look tarty and fetishy 

I knew a woman who was a true expert in wearing heels - 120mm was her usual height - and she owned a pair of those but never wore them because she couldn’t walk well in them. I think also that few women like the look of heels that high. I know some who love heels but won’t go over 100mm because they say it creates the wrong impression.

That argument completely loses all value when you consider that the platform shows and knee high or tigh high boots these womens will still wear come straight out of the fetish scene. I think its less about tarty and fetishy and more about there's no way I can ever walk in those, so I'll give a socially accepted answer instead. Which is something that on average women are prone to do anyway. There's a reason why PUA's say don't listen to what women tell you, listen to what they do.

On 4/28/2022 at 12:18 PM, mlroseplant said:

Probably the reason why they look tarty and fetishy is because almost nobody can walk in them, and what good is a shoe if you can't actually walk in it? Bingo.

Not very many years ago, giant platformed monstrosities with 15 or 16 cm heels were quite fashionable (think Louboutin Daffodile, et al.). Those were not necessarily fetishy. Heck, pianist Yuja Wang to this day wears similar for every concert, even though she has toned the rest of her look down considerably from what it was pre-pandemic. I think a lot of it has to do with not actually being able to use single soled shoes over 12 cm for their intended purpose. I would be willing to bet money that even Ms. Wang could not negotiate Hot Chicks, as least not well enough to present them in public.

Giant platforms ARE fetishy. Came straight out of the stripper/pornstar scene from the middle 90's, when every stripper and/or pornstar wore them. Even today they are still part of the bread and butter stripper/pornstar/pole dancer stable. I reckon that the biggest reason why single sole heels are fetishy is because those people are the only ones willing to walk in them.

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I wear tall platform heels on a daily. Between 6-8" heels. Ysl tribtoo. Louboutin daffodil. Giuseppe Zanotti Denny . Bernd sarafin Thaler. The Only single sole I would wear are the Louboutin hot chick 130 but they are very rare. 

[Jkrenzer]

1 hour ago, temp said:

I wear tall platform heels on a daily. Between 6-8" heels. Ysl tribtoo. Louboutin daffodil. Giuseppe Zanotti Denny . Bernd sarafin Thaler. The Only single sole I would wear are the Louboutin hot chick 130 but they are very rare. 

Some very expensive stuff. Hope you're out in public. Be a shame to solo with brands like those.

Myself, even wearing heels publicly nearly evey day, can't justify those kinds of dollars.

[temp]

2 hours ago, Jkrenzer said:

Some very expensive stuff. Hope you're out in public. Be a shame to solo with brands like those.

Myself, even wearing heels publicly nearly evey day, can't justify those kinds of dollars.

Yes definitely go out in public

[Jkrenzer]

Love to see some pics of your shoes.

[mlroseplant]

21 hours ago, SF said:

Ref the video.  Interesting that man man is teaching a woman how to walk in very high heels.  Assuming the man knows and has experienced walking in heels, why is he not wearing heels as well to demonstrate (teach) by example.  Anything less is like teaching someone how to ride a bicycle when the instructor has never ridden a bicycle.  Curious.  smile...    sf

If you go through the channel, the guy actually does wear high heels, and he does well in them for the style they are trying to teach, which is modelling/beauty pageants. There is also a woman who teaches on this channel. My attention was caught by this particular student woman's ankle flexibility. I still have no idea what the bamboo sticks are actually for. Must be an Asian thing.

16 hours ago, Chorlini said:

That argument completely loses all value when you consider that the platform shows and knee high or tigh high boots these womens will still wear come straight out of the fetish scene. I think its less about tarty and fetishy and more about there's no way I can ever walk in those, so I'll give a socially accepted answer instead. Which is something that on average women are prone to do anyway. There's a reason why PUA's say don't listen to what women tell you, listen to what they do.

Giant platforms ARE fetishy. Came straight out of the stripper/pornstar scene from the middle 90's, when every stripper and/or pornstar wore them. Even today they are still part of the bread and butter stripper/pornstar/pole dancer stable. I reckon that the biggest reason why single sole heels are fetishy is because those people are the only ones willing to walk in them.

Some of this stuff came from fetish-y places, but is no longer considered to be so. Just depends on the style. I mean, look at thigh boots. Those are pretty normal now, but probably not in patent leather. That's still fetish-y.

[Shyheels]

18 hours ago, Chorlini said:

On the other, why ignore a growing market, as women are getting bigger feet, in favor of trying to catch a small corner of a heavily competitive market? Also, 10% of the main market would probably mean selling shoes for like what, $20 a pair, whereas 80% of that smaller market may demand a higher price because they have so little options. So big market, 500.000 times $20 a pair means you gross $10.000.000. Small market 30.000 times $120 per pair you gross $3.600.000. Assuming it costs $10 to make the cheap pairs it costs you $5.000.000 to produce your shoes. whereas the high small market shoes cost 3 times more to make, $30 a pair. It will cost you 900.000 to make. Throw in mass market marketing to reach that larger market segment, as you also have to compete with aggressive marketing from your competitors. Whereas if you own 80% of that small market, you don't have to do much marketing at all. In the end the profit margins on the mass market shoes will be quite low and those of the niche market will be much lower, so the final profit you can bank might be more identical for less effort. That has always been what differentiates the two business models. Niche market means you can demand niche prices. Mass market means you must ship a lot to make up for smaller margins.

That argument completely loses all value when you consider that the platform shows and knee high or tigh high boots these womens will still wear come straight out of the fetish scene. I think its less about tarty and fetishy and more about there's no way I can ever walk in those, so I'll give a socially accepted answer instead. Which is something that on average women are prone to do anyway. There's a reason why PUA's say don't listen to what women tell you, listen to what they do.

Giant platforms ARE fetishy. Came straight out of the stripper/pornstar scene from the middle 90's, when every stripper and/or pornstar wore them. Even today they are still part of the bread and butter stripper/pornstar/pole dancer stable. I reckon that the biggest reason why single sole heels are fetishy is because those people are the only ones willing to walk in them.

Are you seriously suggesting that most people - women - who wear heels aspire to the highest heights and that those who cannot wear these lofty 13, 14 and 15cm heights (or greater) dismiss them as fetishy simply out of a sense of sour grapes? Seriously? The overwhelming majority of people who wear these heights are those who are obsessed with heels, men, basically, for whom heels are not only an obsession but a sort of athletic challenge, or women in a line of work that requires such heels. There is a reason that high street shops do not sell extreme heels and that is because there is no general market for them. Similarly there’s a reason that the. Embers here are almost exclusively make - most women just simply wear heels and get in with it.