Ballet Heels

[Persephone]

Oooh! Is that so? I may well have to investigate this further, as I think that if the LSB type ones could be made with a toe box that would suit me down to the ground. I will be sure to report back any findings...as well as the undoubtedly vast sum that would be required to purchase such a thing.

[Trolldeg]

The best looking ballet boots were made by Ableman, but they are very sought after collectors items today.

http://www.bootlovers.com/previews/preteri9.jpg

[csb2]

The best looking ballet boots were made by Ableman, but they are very sought after collectors items today.

http://www.bootlovers.com/previews/preteri9.jpg

Some shoes by Ableman Trading Co. of Hong Kong, which was one of the best sources of 6+ inch high heels on the planet, are available at Shoecraft in Australia http://www.shoecraft.com.au/, which buys and sells fetish footwear as collectable items.

[pussyinboots]

The best looking ballet boots were made by Ableman, but they are very sought after collectors items today.

http://www.bootlovers.com/previews/preteri9.jpg

Oh WOW....they are gooooorgeous..!

[Persephone]

They really are, aren't they! I would give my eye teeth for a pair of those! I followed the other link to the Shoecraft site, and they do have some rather nice red ones on there (I believe LSB ones), though they are over £600, so I think I'd have just a little saving up to do before I could think about that

[aegis]

Umm...I'm rather indifferent about these ballet heels. A bit too extreme for my taste. They seem very painful to wear.

[pata]

hihi.

@persephone: welcome

The most suggestions here will be concerning the taste of the writer, what they would like somebody see wearing and doing, and not really whats practicable or real . So decide on your own taste and feelings . Especially the last is very important for balletheels- I guess you want to be able to walk balletheels in some 2 years as well, and not only for some party time spoiling your feet for ever, right? Fetish-free, sportive long time term aproach (dance, ballet, sports) will be here healthier. So, happy heeling and have fun:).

As to balletheels:

The thinner and higher the heel, the better looking is a balletheel (though my absolute optical favorites still are alberto balletheels -> http://www.hhplace.org/ultra_high_heels/9300-unique_ultra_high_beautiful.html - though copied but not reached yet)

A matter of fact is: there is no reliable information about walkability of ablemen balletheels, and I haven´t found any reliable experience about walkability of hotpeppers balletheels as well.

So the cheap kassiopeya balletheels look like the last but after an hour of walk the heels become wobbly so no really elegant walk- at least outside with uneven pavement will be possible.

I had a pair of ablemen 6 (or more) inch heels, and if their balletheels were made the same way, which I would assume, they won´t be better walkable than kassiopeya balletheels. but cost much more, and one´s heart would really bleed if the heel at such shoes would break, right?

Illias Little ShoeBox balletheels (aren´t Marro´s balletheels similar?) are of an amazing craftsmanship, the shoe is pure luxury and beautifully made but they are not that ergonomic and stable for walking as LSB Balletheels were, even though the heel is better made as that of LSB ballets; even steel tipped- at the other hand they are not that fine looking /not such a *fetish* foot shape and thin long heel as at devious either.

Italian balletheels resp. those of punitive shoes are fine leather and nice craftmanship, also well walkable for those who cannot cope the heels height of devious balletheels, but still I would say they are made for sitting and beeing adored and not really for a longer walk beeing very wide at foot and ankles and of very supple materials.

Doubtlessly though not that fine looking (resp. because of the lower and thicker heel), LSB balletheels are the best for longer walking considering their stability, ergonomics and craftmanship.

So I would say, till now - there is no real alternative to devious considering all: availability, optics, quality and price...

[thehighheelsgirl]

Most of my ballet boots are from Hot Peppers/ Qualifetish that my former Master got me, and they are very walkable and excellent quality. I've tried the Devious and they just don't compare. The LSB ballets are sooooo easy to walk in, but they just don't look all that sexy.

[pata]

could you make a videoclip of those to show they walked live, may be? it will be really appreciated. but, the actual problem is of course, that they aren´t available any more and extremely rare.

[jo]

Illias Little ShoeBox balletheels (aren´t Marro´s balletheels similar?) are of an amazing craftsmanship, the shoe is pure luxury and beautifully made but they are not that ergonomic and stable for walking as LSB Balletheels were, even though the heel is better made as that of LSB ballets; even steel tipped - at the other hand they are not that fine looking /not such a *fetish* foot shape and thin long heel as at devious either.

Iliaz Iliazi originally worked for TLSB. More recently he has worked for Natacha Marro. One or the other has been in possession of some of the TLSB ballet boot lasts perhaps as recently as 2009 (and may still be in possession).

[csb2]

Umm...I'm rather indifferent about these ballet heels. A bit too extreme for my taste.

They seem very painful to wear.

The "comfort" of ballet heels generally depends on how well they "fit" the person wearing them. They should also have some extra space for padding material. The same type of pads, cushions and lamb's wool that are sold by dance supply stores for use in ballet pointe dance shoes should be used in ballet heels to protect the toes.

[csb2]

Most of my ballet boots are from Hot Peppers/ Qualifetish that my former Master got me, and they are very walkable and excellent quality. I've tried the Devious and they just don't compare. The LSB ballets are sooooo easy to walk in, but they just don't look all that sexy.

I agree. Also, Pleaser USA's Devious ballet heels are basically a copy of Qualifetish and Ableman's, but made in China of lower quality and cost.

Qualifetish (2000-2006) of Montreal, Canada used Ableman Trading Co.(1969 to 1991) of Hong Kong's ballet heels as their beginning model. Then, made minor changes.

Qualifetish ballet heels had a good reputation for being wearable and walkable. So, Ableman ballet heels were similarly wearable, walkable and of high quality. Before Hong Kong was returned by the British to China in 1997, Hong Kong clothing tailors and shoemakers were in the same league as those in the USA and used because the US dollar had a very favorable exchange rate for Hong Kong dollars.

However, Ableman existed in a different era, when ballet heels were not as popular as they are now. Most people did not have gel toe pads. If you was lucky, you might of had some lamb's wool. So, most people could barely walk in the ballet heels.

Also, note that Ableman ballet boots were usually custom-made for a specific person using buyer-suppled measurements including the ankle circumference and calf circumference for each leg. So, only the person the boots were custom-made for would be qualified to rate them.

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NOTE: I think the pair that Spook got as a gift and wore 24/7 for a few months in Florida was by Qualifetish, but I need to double check her photo's.

[Richy]

NOTE: I think the pair that Spook got as a gift and wore 24/7 for a few months in Florida was by Qualifetish, but I need to double check her photo's.

I beleive if memory serves, that the ballet boots that Spook wore originally came from She an Me in Hammersmith, London, who were supplied by LSB. She was sent them in 1998. They most definately came from the UK, and Hotpeppers/QualityFetish had barely touched the UK market at that time because it was pre internet shopping era.

Divine shoes of Northampton, best known for the firm behind the KinkyBoots film, were the first company (and one of the only UK companies) who imported HP/QF goods

[csb2]

I beleive if memory serves, that the ballet boots that Spook wore originally came from She an Me in Hammersmith, London, who were supplied by LSB. She was sent them in 1998. They most definately came from the UK, and Hotpeppers/QualityFetish had barely touched the UK market at that time because it was pre internet shopping era.

Divine shoes of Northampton, best known for the firm behind the KinkyBoots film, were the first company (and one of the only UK companies) who imported HP/QF goods

Seems like you are the "Richard", who sent the ballet boots to Spook. So, you must be right.

I started visiting Spook's website in 2001, when Qualifetish was in business. However, I checked some of Spook's photos at staylace.com (under pinups) and saw one in 1999, when Qualifetish was not yet in business. So again, you must be right.

Do you still keep in touch with Spook? How is she? (Her photos at staylace.com only go up to 2008.)

[thehighheelsgirl]

Spook's ballets were from LSB. I used to keep in touch with her, but since she got a new boyfriend and isn't corset and heel training like she used to, she's kinda fallen off the scene. I haven't heard from here in probably 2 years.

[Richy]

Seems like you are the "Richard", who sent the ballet boots to Spook. So, you must be right.

I started visiting Spook's website in 2001, when Qualifetish was in business. However, I checked some of Spook's photos at staylace.com (under pinups) and saw one in 1999, when Qualifetish was not yet in business. So again, you must be right.

Do you still keep in touch with Spook? How is she? (Her photos at staylace.com only go up to 2008.)

Good guess, I was that Richard,

Unfortuantely we haven't kept in touch. She went very quiet on the scene after splitting with her then boyfriend and moving. Since she was on her own, she was also having to work a vast amount of hours which left her little time for socialising, netwise or otherwise.

[pata]

Qualifetish ballet heels had a good reputation for being wearable and walkable. ... .

As already said, and here well to read, there is no reliable information about that.

If Spook would say qualifetish were well walkable I would believe as she probably had the comparison with LSB - (I believe too, it was LSB balletboots I have seen her wearing). But also a point, she seems to be very honest of what she says, and not simply repeating what we women recognize very well beeing male phantasies on these topics as alot of of ladies in net seem to do.

For the most others, especially about balletheels, it seems to me there is hardly another topic where people tell so many *facts* they just think well sounding without any real background. At least I do not know of any other topic where so many fairytales are told when in public and this differs so much of what comes out when it is about the truth. Is the reason may be just people WANT to hear things like that and start believing themselves what they say at one moment?

A fact is people describe very differently whats *well walkable*.

Generally for extreme high heels high price do not mean heels better walkable though materials better or they *feel* better- very often the *cheap* heels have more stability.

All I can is comparing lsb with pleaser devious and the other brands. So in this case devious might be of cheap materials and eyelets tear easily but the heel is well done especially considering the height and thickness. Extreme heels are extreme and walking balletheels, whereever makes an enourmous pressure on the shoe the most cannot cope. Well even either wellmade or not, they are normally NOT made for walking.

About qualifetish- there is a clip on youtube a young man walking balletheels he claims to be qualifetish/hotpeppers. Not sure, isn´t he a member here? Anyway the boots seem modified for me resp. heels cut but in some scenes it still seems the heels bend differently on each shoe inspite of an even surface so I would assume the walkability not very good in comparison with lsb or devious, even if they feel comfy. But I do not know. May be you would write some words here if you read this.

The point of gel pads resp. comparing with ability of people walking balletheels decades ago is not really an issue in my opinion. I do not use any pads either. Balletdance was very popular then too, if assuming that the abilities are similar and they did not use those pads there too. Also I believe there have always been a similar count resp. percentage of people who could do it as well as people today- only less possibilities to make clips/fotos or exchange information. On the other hand, the people were generally fitter, more sportive some 20 years ago, so may be they were even better. But also considering they did not have the opportunity I think there won´t be any reliable statement possible.

[csb2]

As already said, and here well to read, there is no reliable information about that.

1) Yes, there may be a significant difference between your definition of "walkable" and that of everyone else's definition. My definition of walkable shoes is that you can actually walk in them. The definition of "walkable" from the dictionary at http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/walkable "is capable of or suitable for being walked <a very walkable city> <a walkable distance>".

I have seen some of your videos in which you do unusual things and abuse your heels (i.e. dig your heels into the ground, crush things, etc.). The only other person that I have seen do that is Cirque de Imelda (a.k.a. susanziballetheels and who uses toe pads). So, your definition of "walkable" could be different in that respect.

In short, you might loosen or break a heel, when most other people would not.

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2) Yes, I agree there is lots of unreliable information on the Internet, especially on this forum. However, I believe that thehighheelsgirl is geniune (but not sure if it is the dom or sub writing). So, I believe her personal comments about Qualifetish are sincere and accurate.

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3) Almost everything that I have ever heard about Qualifetish has been positive. Here are some of the comments that you can still find on the Internet:

　

From BOOTLOVERS

　

"D.J. (Bootlovers.com editor) spoke with Tony of Montreal's Hot Peppers (aka Qualifetish) last week, and learned that the 40 -year-old, family owned and operated company is now offering custom thigh-high, knee-high, and calf-high boots with 6" heels! Chapboots too! Their ballet boots are already known as the best on the market and we cannot wait to give their new stiletto-heeled boots a try!"

http://bootlovers.typepad.com/booted_up/2006/05/new_custom_boot.html?asset_id=6a00d83452747269e200d83561370c69e2

　

　

At Yahoo! Groups balletheelsgroup forum:

"without a doubt i'll have to say www.qualifetish.com has the absolute best. I now have more and the Qualifetish ballet heels made by ..."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/balletheelsgroup/messages/258?o=1&xm=1&m=p

　

At BOUNDFORUM, see various comments about Qualifetish at:

http://www.boundforum.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=708&PN=1

Also, note that was a bondage site. IMO, ballet heels were never intended to be worn outdoors, just used as another item of bondage gear indoors. However, SM/BD has really changed over the past decade or two and come out of the closet quite a bit.

　

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4) Since Qualifetish ballet heels were priced relatively high, someone surely would have written a bad review (during the six and half years between 2000-2006), if the ballet heels were not walkable.

　

Now, if you are still not convinced, then you may have to buy an old pair of Qualifetish ballet heels and test them yourself. (Get a copy of ShoeCraft's "STOCKLIST" and try all of the international eBay's.)

[pata]

sorry, but once again, is in your quotes any comparison? My statements were not based on my own abilties or *feelings* on walkability alone. qualifetish might be the best, but in WHAT? as mean of bondage? compared to WHAT features? doubtlessly they were well made but as already said, it does not mean e. g. heel beeing really stable. Alot of people possess extreme high heels but wear them in bed only and then of course luxury of materials and well made shoe is more important than if the shoe will survive a walk outdoor (the stabler the heel feels the longer it can cope the pressure outdoor indeed). Also people tend to appreciate their 300 euro shoes more than those at 50 euro. the illias little shoebox balletheels I have are the most luxurous and wellmade balletheel I´ve ever seen but they are NOT that good for walking as devious balletheels (except for the lower heel). the extreme high ablemen heels I had were amazing all to optics as to craftmanship but they are NOT that good and stable for walking as any similar height modern china heels are. As already said, all I write as statement I feel beeing able to explain, to show and to prove resp. I have seen it *proved* in real life by alot of other people of different levels of abilities. So I would like but I cannot say anything about balletboots of qualifetish or ablemen, but as already said there isn´t also enough other information available that a statement would be possible. But I think alot of you know, even at a 13 cm heel some very expensive designerheels are less stable and less well walkable than some *cheap* china shoes though the last of course made of less beautiful and fine materials or less good looking etc. in the quote of bootlovers they write of EXPECTING not of wearing and comparing. may be you have found or read some statements after they got the balletheels? it would be interestint! The problem is, alot of people (here too) are writing of ablemen and qualifetish but obviosly without ever have worn any of those by themselves? This is what I wanted to point out again here if speaking about balletheels. walking balletheels, there are no wonders or nothing beyond of our natural physical abilties. you know, some are better in mathematics (I am very good in statistics, as an example ) and some in languages, but we all can learn that more or less good. And the same about balletheels. the most can walk them more or less well if facing it neutraly, not with all those fetish fantasy backgrounds. the last is the main reason for the most failing, because the *bdsm* trainings are quite the wrongest way to face the issue. As soon as somebody states wearing balletheels all day long over weeks doing normal work & shopping and all that stuff (except if one is sitting wheelchair of course) I can hardly believe any other information of those people either. also, I know some more people well walking balletheels. there are for sure much more but without the technical possibilties to share or simply staying discrete. the most are men. And as long as feet aren´t spoilt yet and may be some training first an other kind of movement (because otherwise falling)- balletdancers with en pointe experience are for sure able too. but the most would not because it is felt *pervert* . I´d say at least 1 % can- and this without any trainings as I did not have any and from people with similar abilities I know at least of some of these *good walkers* they did not have any too, even if they eventually say it differently in public. As to the rest, I haven´t got any statements about that. also I have met by now alot of people in *different levels* who wanted to have some balletheel lessons, also exchanging with alot virtually and at the end I can say there are several very different reasons why they fail. still two very typical problems of balletheeling are 1) the balance question- caused e. g. by less good general fitness 2) height of the balletheel. As soon in the heel-case it is cut lower resp. balletboots with a stable heel are chosen, people can walk! and for those with less balance feeling- devious has been a good choice till now causing kind of a feeling of wonder for those who have been walking and failed on kassiopeya balletheels, e. g. It is important of course to recognize where additional *points of difficulty* might be, but stabilty of the heel is really crucial if not a *good balletboot walker* from very beginning. I think, as we are here in a high heel forum and people interested in this topic from the view of real walkabilty, we might really try to gather reliable information about all those shoes, critically (!) filter the fantasies and the truth and may be give a statement at the end concerning all those brands which the new readers -balletheel lovers- balletheel walkers - will be able to adapt withouth the need of *inventing the bicycle again*.

[csb2]

sorry, but once again, is in your quotes any comparison? My statements were not based on my own abilties or *feelings* on walkability alone.

qualifetish might be the best, but in WHAT? as mean of bondage? compared to WHAT features? doubtlessly they were well made but as already said, it does not mean e. g. heel beeing really stable. Alot of people possess extreme high heels but wear them in bed only and then of course luxury of materials and well made shoe is more important than if the shoe will survive a walk outdoor (the stabler the heel feels the longer it can cope the pressure outdoor indeed). Also people tend to appreciate their 300 euro shoes more than those at 50 euro. the illias little shoebox balletheels I have are the most luxurous and wellmade balletheel I´ve ever seen but they are NOT that good for walking as devious balletheels (except for the lower heel). the extreme high ablemen heels I had were amazing all to optics as to craftmanship but they are NOT that good and stable for walking as any similar height modern china heels are.

As already said, all I write as statement I feel beeing able to explain, to show and to prove resp. I have seen it *proved* in real life by alot of other people of different levels of abilities. So I would like but I cannot say anything about balletboots of qualifetish or ablemen, but as already said there isn´t also enough other information available that a statement would be possible. But I think alot of you know, even at a 13 cm heel some very expensive designerheels are less stable and less well walkable than some *cheap* china shoes though the last of course made of less beautiful and fine materials or less good looking etc.

in the quote of bootlovers they write of EXPECTING not of wearing and comparing. may be you have found or read some statements after they got the balletheels? it would be interestint!

The problem is, alot of people (here too) are writing of ablemen and qualifetish but obviosly without ever have worn any of those by themselves? This is what I wanted to point out again here if speaking about balletheels.

walking balletheels, there are no wonders or nothing beyond of our natural physical abilties. you know, some are better in mathematics (I am very good in statistics, as an example ) and some in languages, but we all can learn that more or less good. And the same about balletheels. the most can walk them more or less well if facing it neutraly, not with all those fetish fantasy backgrounds. the last is the main reason for the most failing, because the *bdsm* trainings are quite the wrongest way to face the issue.

As soon as somebody states wearing balletheels all day long over weeks doing normal work & shopping and all that stuff (except if one is sitting wheelchair of course) I can hardly believe any other information of those people either.

also, I know some more people well walking balletheels. there are for sure much more but without the technical possibilties to share or simply staying discrete. the most are men. And as long as feet aren´t spoilt yet and may be some training first an other kind of movement (because otherwise falling)- balletdancers with en pointe experience are for sure able too. but the most would not because it is felt *pervert* .

I´d say at least 1 % can- and this without any trainings as I did not have any and from people with similar abilities I know at least of some of these *good walkers* they did not have any too, even if they eventually say it differently in public. As to the rest, I haven´t got any statements about that.

also I have met by now alot of people in *different levels* who wanted to have some balletheel lessons, also exchanging with alot virtually and at the end I can say there are several very different reasons why they fail.

still two very typical problems of balletheeling are 1) the balance question- caused e. g. by less good general fitness 2) height of the balletheel.

As soon in the heel-case it is cut lower resp. balletboots with a stable heel are chosen, people can walk!

and for those with less balance feeling- devious has been a good choice till now causing kind of a feeling of wonder for those who have been walking and failed on kassiopeya balletheels, e. g. It is important of course to recognize where additional *points of difficulty* might be, but stabilty of the heel is really crucial if not a *good balletboot walker* from very beginning.

I think, as we are here in a high heel forum and people interested in this topic from the view of real walkabilty, we might really try to gather reliable information about all those shoes, critically (!) filter the fantasies and the truth and may be give a statement at the end concerning all those brands which the new readers -balletheel lovers- balletheel walkers - will be able to adapt withouth the need of *inventing the bicycle again*.

Seems like you are repeating yourself. I don’t like to do that and go in circles.

You seem obsessed or overly concerned with the heels becoming loose or breaking off. Have you tried to get heels reinforced before you wear them?

Get a new pair of kassiopeya’s and bring them to a good shoe repair shop. Ask them to try to reinforce the heels so that they don’t break off so easily. For example, add some screws into (but not through) the heels.

[pussyinboots]

sorry, but once again, is in your quotes any comparison? My statements were not based on my own abilties or *feelings* on walkability alone.

qualifetish might be the best, but in WHAT? as mean of bondage? compared to WHAT features? doubtlessly they were well made but as already said, it does not mean e. g. heel beeing really stable. Alot of people possess extreme high heels but wear them in bed only and then of course luxury of materials and well made shoe is more important than if the shoe will survive a walk outdoor (the stabler the heel feels the longer it can cope the pressure outdoor indeed). Also people tend to appreciate their 300 euro shoes more than those at 50 euro. the illias little shoebox balletheels I have are the most luxurous and wellmade balletheel I´ve ever seen but they are NOT that good for walking as devious balletheels (except for the lower heel). the extreme high ablemen heels I had were amazing all to optics as to craftmanship but they are NOT that good and stable for walking as any similar height modern china heels are.

As already said, all I write as statement I feel beeing able to explain, to show and to prove resp. I have seen it *proved* in real life by alot of other people of different levels of abilities. So I would like but I cannot say anything about balletboots of qualifetish or ablemen, but as already said there isn´t also enough other information available that a statement would be possible. But I think alot of you know, even at a 13 cm heel some very expensive designerheels are less stable and less well walkable than some *cheap* china shoes though the last of course made of less beautiful and fine materials or less good looking etc.

in the quote of bootlovers they write of EXPECTING not of wearing and comparing. may be you have found or read some statements after they got the balletheels? it would be interestint!

The problem is, alot of people (here too) are writing of ablemen and qualifetish but obviosly without ever have worn any of those by themselves? This is what I wanted to point out again here if speaking about balletheels.

walking balletheels, there are no wonders or nothing beyond of our natural physical abilties. you know, some are better in mathematics (I am very good in statistics, as an example ) and some in languages, but we all can learn that more or less good. And the same about balletheels. the most can walk them more or less well if facing it neutraly, not with all those fetish fantasy backgrounds. the last is the main reason for the most failing, because the *bdsm* trainings are quite the wrongest way to face the issue.

also, I know some more people well walking balletheels. there are for sure much more but without the technical possibilties to share or simply staying discrete. the most are men. And as long as feet aren´t spoilt yet and may be some training first an other kind of movement (because otherwise falling)- balletdancers with en pointe experience are for sure able too. but the most would not because it is felt *pervert* .

I´d say at least 1 % can- and this without any trainings as I did not have any and from people with similar abilities I know at least of some of these *good walkers* they did not have any too, even if they eventually say it differently in public. As to the rest, I haven´t got any statements about that.

also I have met by now alot of people in *different levels* who wanted to have some balletheel lessons, also exchanging with alot virtually and at the end I can say there are several very different reasons why they fail.

still two very typical problems of balletheeling are 1) the balance question- caused e. g. by less good general fitness 2) height of the balletheel.

As soon in the heel-case it is cut lower resp. balletboots with a stable heel are chosen, people can walk!

and for those with less balance feeling- devious has been a good choice till now causing kind of a feeling of wonder for those who have been walking and failed on kassiopeya balletheels, e. g. It is important of course to recognize where additional *points of difficulty* might be, but stabilty of the heel is really crucial if not a *good balletboot walker* from very beginning.

I think, as we are here in a high heel forum and people interested in this topic from the view of real walkabilty, we might really try to gather reliable information about all those shoes, critically (!) filter the fantasies and the truth and may be give a statement at the end concerning all those brands which the new readers -balletheel lovers- balletheel walkers - will be able to adapt withouth the need of *inventing the bicycle again*.

Thank you for this incisive post 'pata' - it is refreshing to hear someone EXPERIENCED in ballet Heels wearing to tell it how it is.

I too, find myself doubting the substance of some things that I read about the walking ability in extreme high heels having worn them and walked in them - with difficulty - for some years now.

I always try to be honest and forthright about the wearing of extreme heels. Yes - I DO wear ballet heels, and yes - I CAN walk in them - but only just. My maximum is maybe 15 minutes, and after that time, I 'wobble' as I walk. My balance still needs practice.

So too with the 6" and 6.5" fetish heels. Yes - I CAN walk in them, and yes - I DO walk in them. However again, mules are VERY dangerous at 6" and I only manage maybe 30 - 60 minutes...and then my calves, ankles and feet ache. With shoes and boots, maybe I can make more than 60 minutes wearing before I need to sit down and rest my aching limbs.

However, my photographs present a completely different picture of my high heels wearing - and make me into an expert. Importantly however - photographs DO NOT show my pain..!!

I too would like to see some sensible advice and information about walking and wearing extreme heels and ballet heels. Perhaps then, people will resist the temptation to recount glamourous fantasy ideas - and tell it how it really is....

Because - it is difficult...and requires regular practice.

[pata]

thank you, pussyinboots.

of course it is also possible to walk those shoes for hours, but if not giving after that the feet the time to recover- and this will be more likely weeks not days- the more often worn & the older the person the more time needed,- the *high heel walking* is over very soon as well.

somebody who wants to wear high heels more often or in some few years too will avoid this kind of over exhaustion. Ballet dancers who end their carreer at 40 or usually even earlier because they cannot anymore are a good example- and for sure they are physically better prepared for strain like that.

having pain is clear sign of the body: it´s enough! there are days which are not for high heels, and one has to respect that (this is why bdsm in this is so dangerous).

Seems like you are repeating yourself. I don’t like to do that and go in circles.

You seem obsessed or overly concerned with the heels becoming loose or breaking off. Have you tried to get heels reinforced before you wear them?

Get a new pair of kassiopeya’s and bring them to a good shoe repair shop. Ask them to try to reinforce the heels so that they don’t break off so easily. For example, add some screws into (but not through) the heels.

oh it seems you really dont understand what i am trying to say.

yes i repeated it hoping i explained it better now.

May be it is because of my language handicap.

What about just trying the mentioned shoes - depending of your shoesize i can give you the opportunity too; also possible with lower shoes, and I am sure after trying on 4 *typical* pairs the right way you will know exactly what I mean.

Balletheels are extreme. speaking about the wobbly heel- they do not need to break nor it is a *malfunction* per se but when instable one just wont be able to walk them well if it is on the border to the physical ability of that moment.

[csb2]

oh it seems you really dont understand what i am trying to say.

yes i repeated it hoping i explained it better now.

May be it is because of my language handicap.

　

Maybe, but I usually understand what you write. Of course, if you don't write it, then I can't understand it.

　

　

What about just trying the mentioned shoes - depending of your shoesize i can give you the opportunity too; also possible with lower shoes, and I am sure after trying on 4 *typical* pairs the right way you will know exactly what I mean.

　

I know what you mean. I have plenty of experience, but it has been well over a decade since I last wore heels seriously. Perhaps, I'll take it up again to find out exactly how cheap those doggone kassiopeya ballet heels really are. LOL, but then I wouldn't want hurt myself. Would I?

I have no idea how old you are. However, based on what you look like in your in videos, I can guarantee you that I'm old enough to be your father.

Balletheels are extreme. speaking about the wobbly heel- they do not need to break nor it is a *malfunction* per se but when instable one just wont be able to walk them well if it is on the border to the physical ability of that moment.

NOW, I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN. YOU NEED TO CLARIFY "WOBBLY HEEL" FOR ME. From you wrote previously, I had the impression that you was concerned with the "heel unit" breaking off or becoming loose. If that is not what you meant, then I can think of only 2 other possibilities for a wobbly heel:

　

a) the HEEL TIPS wear out unevenly, which can happen due to various reasons. However, I doubt heel tips are your concern because you probably would have wrote "heel tips".

the entire heel unit looses its rigidity and becomes slightly flexible. I can see that happening with a cheap long "METAL ROD or TUBE", depending on the type of metal, the condition of the metal and the thickness (outside diameter minus inside diameter) of the metal. The rest of the heel unit is usually either polyurethane or hard wood, both of which could crack (I have seen that happen) and actually break (but not usually as the metal rod is supposed to prevent that from happening).

If the metal rod is the cause of the problem, then the only thing that can be done is to replace the bad rod with a new rod of harder metal. (A well equipped shoe repair shop can do that for high heels up to 5 inches or so.) Of course, you can also tell kassiopeya about the problem and suggest that they need to use better metal rods.

[csb2]

The "metal rod or tube" inside the stiletto heel needs to be more "rigid" or "stiff". Those are the proper words in the English language that are used to describe how to fix this type of problem. I dealt with this type of problem about 25 years ago.

[pata]

it is not a quality issue, once again, nobody doubts qualifetish are quality shoes. also not an age issue, just making reasonings and having a particular experience. wobbly seems for me the best fitting term till now. but once again, it is not a cobbler issue nor a question of quality itself. even nowadays shoemakers seem to struggle with the development of high heels if the heel is over 5,5 inch and without platform as the last ease the enourmous pressure of a walked extreme high heel again. And I think all of those who have WALKED (usually some 500 m or less are enough to recognize) different shoes with a heels height at 6 inch or higher will agree. but since 1990ties the quality and development of materials seem to have been amazing. in reverse: extreme high heels from before hardly achieved this. LSB did but the heel was thick as you will remember. so, my opinion is, devious has done here good work and their balletheels are great walkable - as well as those of lsb are. for the reason above I do not know if this can be stated about qualifetish or ablemans, especially as some other quality balletheels do not achieve this good walkability even if the heel is lower than at devious/kassiopeya/qualifetish. once again, it is neither a quality issue nor a statement of general quality. What you quoted about qualifetish is about their handicraft quality again (e. g. devious are in reverse well known for their bad eyelet fastening) but a little note what you for sure did notice too: if an extreme shoe after 10 years looks like new it hardly has been walked. So once again just read exactly what people say, it does not seem to me a statement about walkability of the shoe. the best way might be to ask direct questions. but not to make own interpretations on a sensitive topic if not enough information is given. My statements here come because so many seem to write (and sorry, I have to count you to these too) about shoes what they never have seen/worn/walked in real, something what they have heard but here also without any clear and traceable statements but then making own interpretations e.g. including walkability inspite of there even haven´t been any statements about that in those notes they have read. So I did not say it is wrong what you wrote! But we cannot also say it is quite for sure true! So once again, to clear some myths what about a) giving first hand information only. for second hand interpretation: less own interpretations more asking directly and as much details on the interesting questions as possible. the point is ASKING if something is not clear, anywhere where it is possible, and not just making assumptions. We have the possibilities of easy videofilming today, which might help to clean up too. if anybody wants to show something relevant but not possessing camera, there will for SURE be somebody living in the same country who would help. I mean if one really wants to clear up all these things, where else if not here at high heels place where such an exchange of information is possible? Of course one should be as honest to oneself then to recognize if one WANTS to know and share the knowladge of that - or may be it is actually about reading exciting balletheel training /balletheel wonder stories and phantasies for one? which is nothing bad either, but may be the *story* area here in the forum would be more suitable then? thehighheelsgirl: would you give some statements to the following please, if you dont mind (eventually over pm; for me it is about a possibility to make some general statements only- I promise to treat it absolutely discrete except you explicitely don´t mind me mention something in public.) how many balletheels do you possess? for how long? resp. for how long a pair of balletheels do you wear? and how much of that time you WALK them? do you use anything to protect your feet and if yes, what? do you see a difference between shoes of qualifetish depending on either a pair have been walked more? eventually any modifications of balletheels? reinforcing of the heel? what is the surface you walk your balletheels most? (home, even street, uneven streets/stones, sand, grass?) you said devious was not comparable to qualifetish. where were those differences in particular? for how long did you wear devious balletheels? would you compare lsb ballets you walked to qualifetish please? about the walkability- was the difference the height only or something additionly? what about comfort for the feet? are there some other brands you have tested and you might make a statement of? Thank you.

[DR Who 3]

I have been away for some time now so I just want to update my bboot walking. After the last modification I did to my boots I really had a difficult time walking in them because my ankles were not adjusting to the extra straightness so I changed my boots back to the original shape. ( fiberglass is a wonderfull medium for making these modifications to the heels ect.) I took my boots for a walk 2 days ago for about an hr. and had no problems until my legs started getting tired. It would be great to be young again like Pata and Alexandra Potter on youtube. I think I could have given these ladies a run for their money ( just kidding). If I can continue to practice walking often I think I'll risk another public outting to a store or a mall. I was hoping to make a heel meet this summer but with work and almost having to start over in my bboots I think I'll hold off till the fall if there is a heel meet in my neck of the woods. I think Pata is right about giving your feet a rest from walking for a while because after my stint away I believe when I started walking again I had more confidence and I could feel more control over the heel and toe placement. This is importent because if you don't have a good feel of where the boots hit the floor you could loose your balance and cause an injury yes Ballet Boot walking can be dangerious. Dr Who 3

[fellipec]

Some pics I took, hope you enjoy http://fellipec.deviantart.com/gallery/30953733

[Snoots]

The "metal rod or tube" inside the stiletto heel needs to be more "rigid" or "stiff". Those are the proper words in the English language that are used to describe how to fix this type of problem. I dealt with this type of problem about 25 years ago.

Seems ballet heel manufacturers (or any high heels manufacturer in fact) should possibly try using carbon fibre 'rods or tubes' in their heels? Anyone know if this has been attempted? I'm a 5-axis machinist and have both machined CFRP (Carbon Fibre Re-inforced Plastic) and used it for cutting tool extensions etc. It's up to 4x stiffer than hardened steel in most applications.

Just a thought to throw out there

[Jabble]

I want to change my vote from, "I like how they look on others but don't wear them myself." to now, "I love them and wear them!".

[jamie1608]

My ballet boots should arrive tomorrow. Does anyone have any advise for a newbie?