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Totally true for me. High heels seem to come with a lot of prejudice in people's minds. Many people have told me that they were surprised about how I actually am when they got to know me better. So I would say that wearing heels gives you a bad first impression amongst many people. But that also has it's upside, as it automatically gets you away from the people who aren't worth it 😉

No American vehicle trend to me was more dumb than the Humvee craze of the early 2000's. Not only was it a gaz guzzler, it was not even a pickup and could carry anything other than people. And despite having a crazy ability to go off-road, those that bought them would never take them off-road anyway. It was all a status thing, which as all of you should know by now, I am polar opposite on. I could care less what other people think of my choices as long as I have thought things through and made a decision on what I feel is best for me. For now, I like my Honda CRV, but I also buy my used cars outright and try to stick with models that go for a long time. I literally drive my cars to the last mile. When I am done with one, they go to the crusher to be turned into scrap metal. Typically, I try to get 250,000 miles out of one before they ultimately die.

@Puffer Wow, you guys put so much work into research! I tried the formula with my Hot Chick 130s, which of course are claimed as 130 mm. I measured them with 127 mm in size 37. Using your formula that gives me 130,9 mm in size 38. So that seems realistic for this case.

I've given some further thought to the question of the 'standard' for heel measurement. The consensus seems to be that Eu38 is an appropriate standard, given that manufacturers often (usually?) quote heel heights for that size. From internet information about foot measurement in relation to nominal footwear sizes, I have compiled a table (as below) which shows the heel-height factors to be applied when converting from one size to another, based on the standard Eu38. (I freely accept that my source information is not necessarily definitive, as footwear sizes do vary between manufactures and styles, that Eu/UK/US size equivalents may be disputed and that, as the table shows, some foot length variation is also accepted. But let us take it as a working hypothesis.) As you can see from the table, the index for Eu38 is set as 100. So, to get the corresponding 'effective heel height' (steepness) for another size, we multiply the height of the known heel by the index number for that other size and then divide by the index for the subject's actual size. Taking Shyheels's boots as an example (which I assume to be size Eu 45-46 = index 119), he quotes the actual height as an impressive 147mm. The equivalent in Eu38 would be 147 x 100/119 = 123.5mm. Not quite in agreement with the '120mm' claimed by Italian heels, but not that far off. Likewise, my friend's Office courts that I pictured are Eu42 and have a heel height of 131mm. He tells me that the identical model in Eu38 actually measures 125mm - but my table would suggest 120mm (131 x 100/109), so another discrepancy. We are, I think, on firmer ground with mlroseplant's 'training shoes' in Eu40 with an actual height of 133mm, which would indeed equate to the 125mm he claims for Eu 38; (133 x 100/106). Anyway, I leave the table for your adoption or dispute, as the case may be: Shoe size Nominal length Mean length Index Size UK3/USW5 (EU 35-36) ~22.8 cm 22.8 cm 94 Size UK4/USW6 (EU 37) ~23.3 - 23.7 cm 23.5 cm 97 Size UK5/USW7 (EU 38) ~24.1 - 24.6 cm 24.35 cm 100 Size UK6/USW8 (EU 39-40) ~24.9 - 25.6 cm 25.25 cm 104 Size UK7/USW9 (EU 40-41) ~25.4 - 26.2 cm 25.8 cm 106 Size UK8/USW10 (EU 42) ~26.2 - 26.9 cm 26.55 cm 109 Size UK9/USW11 (EU 43) ~27.0 - 27.5 cm 27.25 cm 112 Size UK10/USW12 (EU 44-45) ~27.9 - 28.3 cm 28.1 cm 115 Size UK11/USW13 (EU 45-46) ~28.8 - 29.3 cm 29.05 cm 119 Size UK12/USW14 (EU 47) ~29.4 - 30.2 cm 29.8 cm 122

Indeed, nobody needs to be around people with a mediaeval mindset. in point of fact all the women I know who love heels are really interesting intelligent people. I don’t know any (other!) men who wear heels, other than on this forum, but again they all seem to be people worth knowing. From what I can see a love of heels seems to indicate an appreciation of style, elegance and a sense of fun.

I had one car that was at 250,000+ when I totaled the front end in a accident caused by a mountain lion crossing a freeway. My next one blow a rod when the oil pump failed at about 160K. I now drive a 4-wd RAV4 which has 120K+ on it currently. The new ugly, dumbness 'truck' of the day is the Tesla 'pickup'. It seems the same people who bought the hummer also bought on of these.

A great pair of boots! And the red for sure screams "unhiding", so you did well 😉

I live more on the country side, but still have most of the daily needs in reach by foot or bike. Living without a car would be possible, but sometimes very inconvenient. I like that mindset! My car is 19 years old and I'm not planning on replacing it. If I look at new cars I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, more the opposite. So I'm trying to keep it well maintained and maybe also drive it to the last mile 🙂

It’s not that they can’t be worn with jeans which tend to be used in more casual situations rather the actual height speaks more to clubs and parties than shopping or errands. As to advertised heel heights measurements are usually taken of a size 8 or 9 shoe. If you order a size 12 as I did then you could normally expect the actual heel to measure about 3/4”/2cm higher than that size 8 or 9 shoe. I learned this from an independent shoe retailer and reading various industry publications. So, yes, a full 2.1” higher was surprising. I’ve worn up to 6” heels with jeans for day trips, errands, and while traveling but an 8” heel is something different. Yet the photos just don’t make that heel look that high but believe me it is. If you search YDN shoes on Walmart’s site and choose the highest heel category then you’ll readily find them. Their sizing helper is good too. When asked for a comparative brand and size I chose Jessica Simpson wedges in size 11 and it recommended a size 12 in YDN heels. The size 12 I got is a perfect fit. They do not bind anywhere and are stable to walk in. Ordered them on 15 Jan and they arrived 4 February. I noticed many Walmart offerings in sizes above 12 so some here may find their useful. HinH

Those are certainly loud and proud. I approve!

You shouldn’t beat yourself up about your photos - nothing wrong with them at all. You present a very nice image of a guy wearing heels and that’s all to the good. The world needs more of such images. I just get hung up on the challenge of trying to create art house or magazine style images because that is what I do and the notion of trying to do this with heels appeals to me.

Here are my latest acquisition. I got these for less than $20 in a thrift store. The brand is Fashion Nova, And they go up to just above the knee. They are an almost half black, and half grey, suede like material. and they have a 4" block heel.