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9 hours ago, Shyheels said:

I see no relevance or connection between wearing heels and wearing skirts - they are very different things in my opinion. I see wearing skirts as a completely different ball game. 

I am basically a newcomer to this perspective of fashion, and I hope I am not drawing a shallow connection here.  The reason I am here is because “men’s” fashion is boring.  There is so much uniformity that men have lost aesthetic discernment.  They pick what to wear based on what everyone else is wearing.  

I am not saying that all men should want to wear skirts or heels.  We each select the pieces that are practical for our lifestyles and body.  I don’t wear sandals or any open toe shoes because it does not match my lifestyle, but I think men should have all those options available.  I think when we welcome tasteful expansion of men’s fashion options we are all supporting the same cause.  

Heels and skirts are relatively easy to physically wear and incorporate into men’s fashion and lifestyle.  But there are many mental barriers to men accessing the option, and I think most of those barriers are shared between heels and skirts.  They are made, marketed, and sold very widely in only women’s sizes and departments in stores.  There is unfair social association with cross dressing or oddness.  I think there is opportunity for general improvement in the way fashion is perceived by men and those who design for men.  It would be nice to progress to a point where we see heels displayed in men’s shoe departments, and nice kilts hanging with trousers on the rack like skirts do in women’s departments.  We’re not insisting you to wear one, but we should welcome having these options.  

2 hours ago, Shyheels said:

I agree there is less acceptance for men in skirts than men in heels. As for synergies, I wouldn't say so - there is no more connection between men wearing heels and wanting to wear skirts, than there is between wearing heels and being gay.  I have absolutely no interest at all in wearing skirts or anything along that line. I like tall boots, with or without heels, simply for fashions sake. That is the total extent of my interest. 

I am more referring to external synergies than internal.  I looked around on men in skirts discussion groups to see if there is enough talk of heels to warrant participation and found that it is sparse - there is no direct association.  

But externally, any progress others make on acceptance of men in skirts is a win for men in heels I think, and vice versa.  It is about opening men’s minds beyond their generally narrow view of fashion, in general.  Some of us do this through different ways, whether it be heels or skirts, but I think we can still support each other in these individual ways towards the broader goal.  

6 hours ago, Pierre1961 said:

Men in skirts could have their own forum. What they probably don't need. They have already overcome our problems. 

Actually I would argue that there could be less acceptance for men in skirts than men in heels.  There are also some interesting similarities and synergies between the two topics.  

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I have worn these pants for about and hour and have already received a compliment on them.  I was in the auto parts store this morning and the sales associate asked if I was a model.  I gave a “don’t know what you’re taking about” look and he called out my pants and shoes.  I told him no, I just like to look good!  He liked that answer.  Who knew $48 is all you have to spend on pants to get there.  Guys, if you want to look like a model, wear heels!

Found a pair of pants tonight at Last Call.  At first glance they are another pair of black office appropriate pants that blend with everything else.  But this is my first experience with Lyocell fabric, which I am really liking so far.  I refuse to wear the polyester fabrics that they put in many mens’ pants.  Polyester breaths poorly and feel awful.  This Lyocell and cotton blend, on the other hand, drapes and moves around really nicely.  

I wore this down to the bar tonight and a guy pointed out how tall I am and asked why I am wearing women’s shoes.  I responded with the usual “they are my shoes now, I like them”.  He added that he has never seen a guy wearing high heels before.  I replied that there is a first time for everything.  He raised his beer glass and said he is down with that.  One step at a time...

1 hour ago, WenHH said:

I agree. Life is a great teacher. School isn't.

A good school would prepare a child for life, and a lifetime of learning.  

Ready for breakfast and an early morning trip through the grocery store

17 minutes ago, WenHH said:

Thank You very much @Shyheelsfor a lesson of history :). They should teach this kinda history facts in school.

All of the most fascinating things I’ve ever learned were outside of school.  Never stop learning!

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The slit in the pants tease - how tall are these boots really?

The kids are out and about for Spring Break, plus St. Patrick’s Day made things even more lively today.  I just wore my cowboy boots today.  The 3” heels just blend right into the cowboy boot look.  

I wear knee boots all summer here in Texas.  I find that they are still cooler than wearing plastic tennis shoes.  I threw out the sandals the day I moved to Texas.  Way too many fire ants, scorpions, red wasps, cactus, and all manner of pokey things near the ground.  

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Yes, the content I enjoy the most at HHP are fashions that people wear out and about on a daily basis, and that might include the other items that go with the heels.  I think focusing on practical fashions that we would actually wear out of the house will help distance us from obvious cross dressing or fetish activity.  There are skirts, dresses, and bright makeup out there that are so edgy that you don't even see women wearing them on a day to day basis.  It should not surprise us, then, that if men were to wear these things, people are going to call it cross dressing, at minimum.  On the other hand, there are many nice skirts, pants, shorts, etc. that can even be office appropriate and no one has ever accused me of cross dressing when wearing them.  

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I had never realized that heels4men had this purpose.  It doesn’t have a list of guidelines like HHP and the content is so sparse that it is a little harder to derive the overall theme, so I never joined.  Maybe it is time I signed up and started posting pictures of the heels I wear into the office?  

I think the guidelines are pretty clear here that this is a fashion website, not cross dressing, and the content here fairly appropriate reflects that.  Yes, there is a bit of diversity, but isn’t that healthy when it comes to fashion?  

The problem with most shallow people outside of HHP is that they have an incorrect definition of cross dressing.  They think that if you put on a pair of heels, you are cross dressing.  So even if you had a website where men are just wearing heels with suits, the website would not convince them of anything, but rather they would still think of it as a cross dressing website.

The issue is not the content of the website, but that most people have a shallow and narrow minded concept of fashion.  I admit that when I first found HHP, it shocked me a little as I had never put that much thought into fashion.  But I read the guidelines, lurked a little, started to understand, and found that this is generally a polite community of like minded people, which is hard to find on the internet anymore.  

Showing someone HHP is not going to magically redefine cross dressing for someone overnight.  But if they are ready to open their minds to talk about fashion beyond the mainstream, it is a very supportive resource.  

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