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12 hours ago, Cali said:

I like to add one thing to this conversation. Money.

Don't go crazy until you find your size.  Be sure that you can return it if it does fit right. Life's too short for shoe that don't fit. Some here buy pre-loved, some buy inexpensive shoes, some buy expensive name brands, the only thing that really matters is fit.

Oh yeah, that! At first I thought I was a size US14 and got me a lot of stuff in that range. Eventually I noticed I had a lot of real estate at either end, experimented with smaller sizes and found my true size. And getting 2nd hand is also a very good way to try out things at a lower cost. As for starting at a low height, me personally I went straight to 5" to 5.5" right away. This wasn't by choice or desire but because that was the only thing available to me. In 1990 there was no internet. No webshops. What was in retail didn't fit me and the only available shoes to me were the really high fetish heels in sex shops. That was it and I had to do it with that. So I never got into the habit of wearing anything lower then 4" and frankly I'd sooner put on a pair a sneakers.

On 1/1/2021 at 1:07 PM, mlroseplant said:

The original question was, "What other kinks do folks have.  .  .?" Only a small number of respondents have actually answered the question, maybe because there isn't a whole lot to answer, and that goes for me too. No kinks, no "gateway drug." I've just always liked heels from a young age, and female feet in general. One might call it a fetish, but only to the extent that I enjoy attractive female shoes and feet. Once I actually put on high heels myself, the sexual aspect of it drops off the scale and is replaced by a general sense of well being.

Oh, I guess I also like long hair and long fingernails. Unfortunately, between genetics and circumstances, I'm unable to grow much of either. My wife could grow both rather easily, but she won't.

What other kinks? I've gotten heavily into leggings. Love me the faux leather and vinyl stuff.

36 minutes ago, mlroseplant said:

Yes, that is my experience as well. Not necessarily two sizes smaller, but certainly 1/2 size to a full size smaller for sandals, or even closed toed but backless shoes (mostly clogs in my case). Which I suppose is not a huge surprise, since I like my sandals to fit rather exactly. I don't like a lot of real estate in front of my toes, or behind my heels. With a closed toed, closed back shoe, this fit would simply be way too tight. Typically, I wear a U.S. Women's size 9 (or UK size 7) in closed shoes, but 8 1/2 in sandals, possibly even 8, depending. Whenever I have gotten size 9 in sandals in the past, the result has been invariably unsatisfactory. Perhaps for larger sized feet, one must give a little bit more of a "discount" for sandals.

Like you I got sandals in the same size as my pumps, only to have way too much real estate in front or at the back. So I tried something smaller and gosh darned, it fitted. I could never hope to fit into size EU41 or EU42 pumps, but I can fit into some EU41 sandals. Even one EU40 that has laces going down all the way to the toes. A discovery that vastly increased my range of available footwear. 😃

On 12/31/2020 at 7:45 AM, VirginHeels said:

Hi there, I am new to heels and would like some help. Never bought a pair, women have such great footwear, much nicer than us blokes norms.

1) Sizing, what size would I take for heels? Are the sizes from male/female the same or do I need to size up?

As a general rule of thumb, 2 sizes up from your male size.  Why that is the case nobody knows. Also as a rule sizings are over the place and some brands are true to size, most run smaller. Zara always runs very small, Italian shoe brands still haven't discovered that wide feet exist. As a rule of thumb a male size EU41, my size, translates as a size UK8 and a US10. Which means I have to get size EU43/UK10/US12 in women's shoes. To further complicate things I've found that you can get 1 or even 2 sizes smaller for sandals though. Or ballerinas for some strange reason.  And God help you if you EVER order anything from Aliexpress, because the sizings there go all over the place.

As another rule of thumb whenever trying out a new brand order the cheapest pair of pumps first to see if it fits, and if it does or not, adjust your sizing when ordering the really cool shoes you want.

On 12/31/2020 at 7:45 AM, VirginHeels said:

2) Socks or Stockings? What would I wear underneath? What would be appropriate for heels? Would I need to shave those hairy as hell legs of mine if it was hosiery?

These I prefer neither. But in general stockings are better as socks might add a little more volume to your foot size. Unless you have a pair that is too wide, then a pair of socks would do fine.

On 12/31/2020 at 7:45 AM, VirginHeels said:

3) If I was to go with my male attire I’d be fine. However I want to eventually become adventurous and wear a skirt. What skirts are best to try first. Do I just go for a mini skirt first? Another question, what underwear would I use, male or female - or is that just personal choice?

Do whatever you want. We live in the time of get your freak out. I only ever saw 1 guy in a skirt and that made me go what the hell? And I think long skirt, medium skirt, mini skirt, it will draw the same response. I also believe that you should do whatever you want, but I also believe that male and female bodies are different, and what works on the one will not always work as well on another. To me, minis skirts are like very high heels, they scream come fuck me to the observer. The wearer shows something off and knows they're showing off something. I love seeing them on women, I'm not sure they work on men.

On 12/31/2020 at 7:45 AM, VirginHeels said:

4) How long did it take to adjust your walking style? Again, should I start with a small 2.5 inch heel then go to something like a 6 inch heel?

I've never had anything lower then 4". That feels quite comfortable to me, and rather low. 5" to 5" is where I'm at. All single sole of course because I detest platforms. But those 6" Pleaser stripper heels with a 2" platform are incredibly comfortable to walk in. That's why strippers, who spend hours upon hours walking and dancing in them, adopted them and made them famous to begin with. I reckon getting a pair would be excellent for starters and Pleaser also has versions without the platform. 6" heels with single soles will take hefty amount of practice though. Although your large size will probably help big time. I suspect at a size UK10 mens size you won't hardly notice 2,5" heels.

On 12/31/2020 at 7:45 AM, VirginHeels said:

5) What are some great brands that go up to a UK size 10/10.5 men’s? I’ve seen OnlyMaker on Amazon, are they good?

Pleaser,  size US13/14 I guess, Onlymaker same sizes, get them at https://www.onlymaker.com/ not Amazon as they have more choice there, and the old Leatherworks shoes sold by Skyscrapers and now https://www.luxuryfetishheels.com/ UK12.

Those are the brands I trust right now. Anything else is trial and error.

On 12/31/2020 at 7:45 AM, VirginHeels said:

At the start I’d like to get a nice pair of 2.5 inch Oxford Lace Up heels as they look so cute, eventually I’d like to have some 6inch f*** me heel boots with all studs coming out, rockstar type heels I’d like to wear to gigs when we get allowed back to them.  Would I be better off starting with some Cuban heels? I love the look of the closed heels like boots, oxfords, ankle boots. Really don’t care for pumps/strapy numbers.

Kind Thanks.

Get whatever you want, but know that wearing the really high 6" or higher in single sole stuff is for advanced users. And always always always ALWAYS order some pumps from online stores first, cause they tend to be the cheapest ones and buying more expensive boots to try out their sizes is just plain a waste of money.

On 12/31/2020 at 1:04 AM, LuvsStiletto said:

Covid is certainly putting a damper on things, especially on women wearing heels. Many woman who would normally wear heels to the office, no longer need to actually go to the office, due to Covid. I have worked in an office environment, most of my adult life. One of the things that I enjoyed most, was seeing an almost endless parade of women, walking down the halls, sitting in meetings, at their desks, on their way to the lunch room, wearing their stiletto heels. The sound of the heels clicking on the marble floors, as women pass by, in their 4” heels, was heavenly fuel for me! With office employees mostly working from home these days, the need for women to “dress up” and head to a full day of work at the office, has diminished accordingly. The other factor, is that with so many restaurants closed or working on reduced capacity, in many states, many women who would normally enjoy accessorizing their “date night” dinner outfit with heels, are now grabbing diner-to-go, at the drive thru window, or opting for pizza or an order of chicken chow mein, from an establishment that offers free delivery. I have spoken with many women who normally wear heels, who have taken the stance, that they are not going to get all “dolled-up” with a nice outfit, makeup and heels, to have to stand around in queue, with a mask on, waiting to enter a fine dining establishment, that is only operating at 25 percent capacity! My own girlfriend who loves getting dressed up, mostly so she can wear a nice outfit with heels, is now like, “let’s just eat at home tonight! I don’t feel like doing the whole makeup and heels thing, with Covid going on!” 
 

Prior to Covid, there was no shortage of women who wore heels daily, to work, dinner/night out, etc., in my region. I do think that there are some regions where you are more likely to see women wearing heels, than others (pre-Covid). I live in a densely populated part of the country, so it has always been fairly common to see women in heels, especially in high-end retail environments, offices (financial services, insurance, etc.), fine dining and entertainment venues, such as the symphony, theatre, etc. In my experience, I have always been more likely to frequent establishments that have a higher probability of finding women in heels. The order line at Taco Bell at 2:00 PM on a Tuesday afternoon, in a small rural town, where Taco Bell’s only competition, is the local pizza joint, who’s dining area consists of two booths, one of which is covered with stacks of pre-assembled pizza boxes, is NOT going to be my first pick of places to do heel spotting! Lol If I want to see women in heels, I go to places where women in heels are likely to be, and right now, with Covid, women who normally wear heels, are not really in those places. 

Where do you work? Because it just has to be the exception to the Heelpocalypse. Or is it one of those places where women outnumber the men by so damn much some weird competition for the few available good men has erupted?

For me its mostly a sexual fetish. Wearing heels is both fun an exciting to me, giving me sort of connection to the the thing I love most, seeing women in heels. I have zero interest though in going out in walking in heels or make them part of my daily atire. And I suspect that goes for most men. Cause I know a lot of heels are sold to men and I yet have to see a single guy in heels in my fairly liberal university city.

I do enjoy talking to other men about heels and wearing them though. Makes me feel part of a larger group and not some freak. 

I wear a man's EU41/UK8 which I think is a US10. I can easily fit into a size US12 from Onlymaker. They seem to run very true to size.

Their basic models of pumps are fairly cheap, buy one to find out. Also in general I've found that sandals you can usually wear up to 2 sizes smaller at times then pumps or boots for some strange reason.

13 hours ago, hiddenheels said:

There are some awesome heels there, I can see why you're interested in ordering. Lots of shoes, but never heard of them either. Not a big footprint on the Internet either.

 

Order with a credit-card, so you can dispute if something goes sideways?

Yeah, I always use a credit card as well when ordering from a new webshop.

On 3/12/2020 at 2:21 AM, Bubba136 said:

I naturally migrated to this site from Jenny’s high heels web site way back in the day

Me too. What happened to her by the way? Anyone who still knows?

20 hours ago, hiddenheels said:

People do change. What is OK now might not be in 10 years. I don't know if it's realistic to make a "do or do not" decision now, because today's actions are not 100% predictors of the future...

That is basically what the MGTOW guys say. It's not worth it getting into relations with a woman, because she may be fine with everything now, in 10 years she change her mind, in which case you'll get screwed in the family courts. It makes screening for the right partner even more important then ever, and whether or not she is accepting of heels is even less important. Because what is more important, finding a person who is accepting of heels or finding a person who won't take you out to the cleaners in 10 years time cause she no longer feels the tingle? I want both, many would say, but the overlap of two spheres is usually never that great, making it even harder.

2 hours ago, Cali said:

But unicorn hunting is really really hard.  

I too make it clear I wear 4 inch heels and I won't get involved with a woman who has an issue with my heels. Life is too short to live that way.  However, the number of women that would not get weirded by it drops off dramatically as you get older. There's a lot of "it okay BUT not for my man" at my age.

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I just had to edit this because with the new format you might miss this very important statement in @LuvsStiletto post: " You just need to find them."

Yeah, there's a lot of women who are full of 'I'm so accepting of everyone and everything' talk, but when the time comes to select a mate they go as traditionally as possible. Just look at how brutal women are when it comes to height. If you're a dude shorter then 1m80 you got your work cut out for you on the dating market cause your market value is LOW. You check the average female dating profile and you can't help escape the notion that what they want is only 5% of the male population. And they ALL seem to want that same 5%. Tall, handsome, athletic, no gut, financially well off, high emotional and social intelligence, if you're that dude the world is your oyster. Hell, you might even get your GF to accept to your heels cause they know they got a unicorn and if she drops it, some sister will come along and snap you up in a heartbeat. So yeah, if you do come across a woman who has everything you want in a woman, wants you too (which is already effin' hard as it is in this online dating wasteland), but just not your heels, it might be really hard for some people to say no to that. There's a LOT of lonely single men out there and unicorns are impossible to find. The alternative might be getting old alone with cats or dogs, or settling for a woman who does agree to you wearing heels, but to whom you feel little attraction.

And even on the slim chance you do find what you want, as the guy who gave us the crazy/hot matrix said, any woman can disappear of the scale and reappear on a totally different spot. Maybe she has no objections today, but in a year's time after getting a lot of flak from her girlfriends (girl, that boyfriend of yours with his heels makes you look ridiculous) she might start to object. Always make sure to check out the girlfriends cause they might have more influence on her then you do.

On 12/19/2020 at 1:51 PM, mlroseplant said:

Except when you don't. I'm looking at YOU Nine West, and sometimes BCBG. I will admit to being lucky having small, relatively symmetrical feet.

On 12/19/2020 at 5:42 PM, hiddenheels said:

As @mlroseplant said, except when you don't. Aldo, at least for me, seems to be this way. Same with Le Chateau. Have a really comfortable size 10 4" ankle boot that fits perfectly with socks, and another size 10 that I can barely put on without socks or with hose. So I gave up on predicting sizes.

Okay, not everything might fit, depending on the style of shoe, but generally you know that when you're buying a Pleaser size EU43 you're not going to get something that will fit on only a baby's feet. Whereas with stuff from Ali there is neither rhyme nor reason to their many sizings.

On 12/16/2020 at 3:42 PM, hiddenheels said:

Brand name, don't really distinguish, I look at the style first. So whatever opportunity there is to grab a good pair of shoes, I take it, regardless of brand name. Have BCBG which I really really like. I have a bunch of Le Chateau from their clearance stores a long while back, some of which are really awesome shoes. Some Aldo, again clearance, but one of which is my "goto" right now. Some stuff ordered online, so Chinese which also works fine. My other "goto" is from a small clothing store here. Never bought Steve Madden, nor Onlymaker or any other styles, I have way too many shoes as is so really tend to stick to the bargain hunting...

Brand name does serve one important function though, you know what their sizing will be. You never really know if size X that fits with brand Y will fit with unknown brand Z. Especially with shoes bought from eBay or Aliexpress you're really playing a guess game. Same with shoes bought in stores. Not everyone dares to go in and sit down to fit. And many of us don't even have to bother as our feet are just too big to fit into anything that's available in retail.

I don't know. i really don't know. Right now I'd say, tentatively, if she wore the heels I want her to wear, does all the nasty stuff in bed that I want her to do with me and her crazy over other things is within tolerable confines, I reckon that Paris might be worth a mass. The perfect partner doesn't exist and in the end you got to decide on what you're willing to compromise over. It's not like I wear or want to wear heels outside of my own home. But I wouldn't throw away my collection and hire a storage box. I've read and seen too many stories of men who got screwed over by wives cheating or leaving, who knows what the future brings?

My feet are too big to fit in any of the normal brands. Not size titanic, but just 1 size too big to fit into anything that's available in regular stores and webshops. Except maybe sandals and ballerinas. EU42 is the largest they tend to stock and for pumps EU43 is the smallest I can fit into. So Onlymaker, Pleaser and Leatherworks for me. Those brands work for, I know that when I order it will fit.

1 hour ago, Selina said:

Well, you are the one reading those

Well answered! And I make no excuses reading them.

On 3/18/2020 at 10:04 AM, ohnoberty said:

Wow UK 5's, that's brilliant, the choices for you are just endless. I thought I was lucky with 7's but 5's.... Jealous!

US 7 is usually the same as UK 5.

As for Onlymaker, they run very true to size. None of that I have to go up a gazillion sizes because Chinese have very tiny feet. I have two pairs, bought a US13/EU44 instead of my usual EU43 because of endless grief with Aliexpress shoes and it turned out kinda roomy behind my heels. So I got a US12/EU43 and it fitted perfectly. Still two sizes up to my normal male EU41 size, but hey, why male and female shoes have different size ranges is still a mystery to me.

On 12/4/2020 at 8:42 PM, Pierre1961 said:

Agreed.  To much a cliché. But fun to read. 

Well, the clichés are a cliché for a reason. Because they work. 😉

I don't want to be the party pooper, so sorry Selina, no offense intended, but her story does kinda feel like something that gets posted at BDSM fanfic sites. I've read that kind of story so often it makes me go is this for real?

🤢🤮

Onlymaker heels are very good value for money and true to sizing. As for sizing a size 12 US seems to correspond to a size EU43. EU45 or 46 usually corresponds to US14 or 15.

They look remarkably like a pair that the late Pantera once wore on a photo shoot.

I get the impression these pointy heels are popular as hell in Russia. Maybe you should check the Russian eBay or its counterpart?

On 11/21/2020 at 12:10 PM, mlroseplant said:

We'll see what happens, post-pandemic. I do see quite a few block heeled boots around my area in the 2-3" range, and occasionally a bit higher. Since I don't go anywhere as of late, my observations are limited to the grocery store once or twice a week, which was never really a hotbed of heels in the first place, but if I come at the right time of day, it wouldn't be out of the question to see a woman smartly dressed wearing some sort of heel, and every once in a while even stilettos. However, I doubt I'll see much for the rest of the year. I'm wondering if the office type jobs have gone back to "work from home" status. When I drove to work yesterday morning, the roads were eerily empty compared to normal.

Here's what my observation in regards to heels are.

Chunky heels 2" doable for most women.

3", chunky or stiletto's, high heel territory for most women these days.

4" and platforms with stiletto heels, wow, you slut! We're now entering fetish territory here for most women. Bedroom stuff.

5" and up? Unthinkable territory for the vast majority of women.

On 11/21/2020 at 6:25 PM, MackyHeels said:

Anytime female needs to dress up be it a prom dress, wedding, funeral or just date night out, heels will be certainly worn. Since the pandemic all those i stated don't exist or limited to some extent so the heels are left in the closet. While workplace heels are used in office place many are working from home with no need to wear or buy outfits for work. Fashion industry must be taking big hit nobody buying high fashion clothes or heels.

If any clothing or shoes being bought are useful and practical keep warm or stay dry. Sooner or later the floodgates will burst and many will start buying in a frenzy new heels and clothing complimenting the style. Christmas being season many might want to dress up for special occasion in the home.

Only seen one sighting with four five inch stiletto heels at Costco store inside. She immediately was feeling discomfort adjusting her heel while leaning on her man for support. Lot of eyes were looking at her fashion statement. Her man knew they were being watched commenting to her why she decided to wear heels shopping. She responded because i miss wearing them, makes me look better. His reply doesn't look as your feeling comfortable wearing them.  Her response,  i just got to get use to them not wearing them for months.

Goes to show you many woman itching for an excuse to wear heels in public. Many normally wouldn't dare wear it shopping when pushing a shopping cart or struggling picking up 36 bootle case of Kirkland water placing under the cart.  Unless other options are not available taking any opportunity as they can get to wear heels. 

Observing other woman looking at the heel woman they understood missing to get dressed up to go out is weighing on people in the pandemic. 

Sorry, not buying it. That's like saying my granddad smoked 2 packs a day and lived to be a 100. Exceptions to the rules do not make the rule. When I see young women dressed out for a night out in their miniskirts and tights I still see them wearing combat boots, uggs, sneakers and flipflops. Hell, even ballerina's are becoming endangered shoe wear as far as young women are concerned.

On 11/21/2020 at 8:02 PM, MackyHeels said:

Woman love to show off there legs and shape. Outfitting themselves in the beast way they can heels are mandatory.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHs_Mr3A_wa/

Stockings and heels always go together.

 https://www.instagram.com/p/CH2tXpxL80i/

Designer heels are always going to be in vogue. Maybe there is no place you can wear them out but certainly it is nice look.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CH0EN1qpW_Z/

A: Exceptions to the rule do not make a rule. There are still some women who like corsets. And yet tight lacing has been dead and buried since WW1.

B: Instagram is basically full of Insta-thots who are looking for male attention to milk the simps for money. Not saying these ladies are that, but it is happening and sadly because of insta-thots its the first thing that comes to my mind.

On 11/21/2020 at 10:41 PM, RonC said:

This is no longer true.  While not saying none will wear heels, many are opting for flats and crap like jeweled or sequined athletic/casual type styles or similar flat sandals.

I agree. They'll be far more likely to wear flat ankle boots with some bling on them then heels. It's over. High heels are going the way that corsets have gone, the fetish niche.

On 11/23/2020 at 12:41 AM, Bubba136 said:

Some females wear heels because it makes them  look more feminine and m.ore attractive to men.  

Ladies who do that tend to stop doing that once they get what they want. Unless its for male attention and money online. And besides, I do not get the impression that the flat heeled ladies out there are starved for male attention. There are a LOT of men out there that are desperate for a girl friend and most women don't seem to think its necessary to wear them to attract men. In fact, ALL dates I have been on for the past decade saw the ladies wear zero heels. 

I think high heels are going the way of corsets. They're still around too, but just for a fetish niche market. For the vast majority they are the stuff of history. Most women today seem to value comfort over style, and while they admire high heels, since they haven't learned to walk in them they will wear them less and less to the point that low heel, anything under 4 inches without a platform, will be considered as daring and the new high heels. I can literally walk for days and not see anything but flats and heels so low they might as well be flats. To see a woman in actual high heels has become like an UFO sighting. Sneakers are now the norm even when going out on the town.

Although if you go to different parts of the world things might be different. From what I hear in the former USSR high heels seem to be quite prevalent still.