Guy N. Heels

I'll post some close up shots of my bags later on, but you get the idea for now. Lots of guys have these bags now and I've had no real comments apart from family members asking me if it's a handbag (or purse as my American aunt says!). I say with this kind of bag - do it!

I hate to tell you this, but some of those pix are so dark that I really can't see much of anything. Before you post any more pix, how about some contrasting clothing and bringing the candle power?

RAH! RAH! COME ON XAPHOD! BOO on the Times! Let's get that soapbox and the plaquards!

Many years ago, when I was stationed overseas in the Far East, I often tuned-in to the John Dureimas Show on AFRTS. One night he related a very interesting story about a man being spotted going into the Times with a satchel in his hand night after night. At some lenght, the guards became suspicious and stopped the man to inquire as to the nature of his business. To this the non-descript man replied that he worked there. When asked where he worked, he replied, "The chief editor's office." Well this really piqued the curiosity of the guards, who knew there was no one in the chief editor's office at night. So they asked him what did he do there. To this he replied that he had been instructed to go to the chief editor's office and wait there. If no one contacted him by morning he was to go home and come back again the following night. So they asked how long he had been doing this, to which the man replied 20 years. So then they asked what was in the satchel, to which he replied 1000 Pounds. When asked what it was for, the man replied that he didn't know what it was for, that he had merely been instructed to go to the chief editor's office and wait there with it. If no one contacted him by morning, then he was to go home.

After some further investigation into the matter the guards discovered that sometime in the past there was a big event going on in Europe and all the royal houses of Europe were involved and newspaper reporters from all across the continent were at this huge event to report it to their newspapers - except the Times. So when this huge event was reported on the front page of newspapers all across Europe, the chief editor of the Times was absolutely livid with rage that his reporter had not sent in the story to the Times. When asked why the reporter hadn't been to the event, he replied that he had no money with which to hire a boat to take him to the continent so that he could report the event; and that all the banks were closed so that he had nowhere to turn to borrow the necessary funds. To this reply the enraged chief editor said that if any such thing ever were to occur again, that all he had to do would be to come to the chief editor's office at the Times where there would be someone who would give him 1000 Pounds to meet any expenses he had to face.

-- Oh, that big event that the feckless reporter missed was going on at a place called WATERLOO!

Well, lessee here: in reality men have carried such items for centuries - only they weren't called a "purse". But who hasn't seen men carrying around a: 1] satchel; 2] briefcase; 3] attache case; 4] portfolio; 5] backpack; 6] lunch pail? And of course, this says absolutely nothing about the Scots who have worn sporans with their kilts (among other things) for centuries. American cowboys were known to carry their saddlebags (on occasion), doctors, salesmen, bankers and service men of all types have carried around all sorts of bags, and even the suitcase goes back a long way. So the problem arises when you attach the name "purse" to the item. But in reality men have been carrying around all sorts of similar items for centuries. Now I will admit that the design of kilts and skirts often does not admit for carrying an abundance of objects (if indeed, there are any pockets at all) thus necessitating the use of a handbag of some sort. So why not just call it that, or portfolio, or some similar name and be on your way?

I highly recommend that you go over to the For the Guys forum and read the different threads where you find Shaq91's posts. Most of what you need to know has already been discussed over there. Also, there are many other threads about walking in heels, so just snoop around a bit.

Depends on the person, my GF has to be careful because it takes only a short time for hers to shorten when wearing heels, ended up in physical therapy rolling a tennis ball with her feet the first time around. She has no intentions of going permitly heeled……..Drat!!!

DITTO! Absolutely it depends on the individual. However, your post seems to indicate that you either have little or no prior experience in wearing truly high heels (3.5 inches or more). So you are simply not going to suddenly get up on a pair of 5"ers and go strutting around without paying a price. Try it often and the price will be that you cannot wear low heels again.

I for one, have thrown out hundreds of dollars worth of nice shoes twice for women and found out I should have gotton rid of these narrow minded women instead. There are millions of nice women out there who will not have a problem with it at all and even get involved. It's something that is a part of me and it's never going to go away plus I really enjoy the many different styles of heels on me or women. It's you and there aint nothin wrong with it!!!!!!

Hi Slingfan,

While I agree with much of what has been said here already, I would like to point out that this kind of thread/subject really belongs over in the For the Guys forum, where you will find that it has been discussed from many different angles and points of view. There is nothing you have said that hasn't already been thrashed-out over there.

Next, I would like to take a longer look at what Johnieheel said above. Unless you've got an incredible amount of disposable income, you'd better address yourself to living a lifetime with high heels and/or skirts. When I found myself going through the buy-purge- replace cycle again and again I had to look at it as if I saw one of my neighbors buying, trashing, and then replacing some item (mattresses, lawn furniture, whatever) and I had to say, "This is madness. This is the very essence of insanity!" In short, I had to stop the insanity! So for me, it was a matter of purging any guilt feelings and accepting the fact that I like wearing high heels and skirts. (I'm wearing both at the moment.)

So let's look at if for a moment: If I go into a store and try-on a pair of shoes, have I broken any laws? - NO.

If I buy a pair of shoes (high heeled or otherwise) have I broken any law? - NO.

If I decide to wear my purchase out of the store, have I broken any laws? - Again, NO. (These same questions and answers would also apply to any other article of clothing.)

So who am I hurting by going through the buy-purge- replace cycle again and again? ME! That's when I decided that I'm going to be me and only going to sell or throw-out the things I no longer want to keep. In short, it was time to stop the madness!

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Yup! Like I said, they're just the thing to get those creepy crawly critters in the corners. :rofl:

I havent been wearing heels that much, I did not have any, i used my Girlfriends. But last week i got my own. Her heels are 2". My new boots are 5". I have them on as much as posible. 4 hours the last week or sow.

But the last to days we have hade guest, sow no heels for me. last week i have noted that some calves feels funny when i take off the boots, and my thights ass well. That is not the wierd part, that is only natural.

But i have alsow this weekend been getting pains in my achilles, mostly when im not in heels. Is this normal ?, anyone have any experiens on this.

In going immediately from 2" heels to 5" heels you are asking far more than your legs and body are able to respond to. In order to wear 5" heels you must either make up your mind to never wear anything lower, or else you must go through a whole series of exercises to develop the legs and ankles so that you can wear 5" heels. I would suggest that you need to look over several threads on how to wear heels in the For the Guys forum. But in general, you should start by wearing lower heels first and then work up to the skyscrapers. Unless you want to shorten your Achilles tendon to the point that you can never wear lower heels, only wear those super high heels (4" or more) for 1 or 2 hours a day and not more than 1 or 2 days a week! Otherwise stay on the 1 - 2" heels the rest of the time. Over time you will strenghten the Achilles to where it is not so much of a problem. Still, you can never wear 5" heels for extended periods without running the risk of shortening that tendon to the point of being forced to wear high heels permanently.

well thats just about the way it IS dr1819, you hit EVERY point in this descussion about heels & men!! I do NOT think that I NEED to care what these so-called "fashion police" think one way or the other!! they just DONT get it, now DO they!! if THEIR minds were like roadways, they are just like old 2-lane hwys (hint:like old Rt 66, namely NARROW) & all others like modern interstates!! LOL :rofl: I love to see the look on their faces when they cant figure out why I wear boots with some kind of heels, or even showing them as high boots in any way (shaft and/or the heels as being "high" as if they saw the strangest thing that a man would be WEARING!!) like drones, clones, monotone thinking people out there, NOT knowing any better than to wear what the NEXT clone happens to be wearing!!

I am reminded of the story of an American pilot who was shot-down over Viet-Nam. In order to ensure that he was properly delivered to Hanoi, his captors put him in a "Tiger Cage" and carried him around for days. But as he got to studying the cage he was in, our pilot soon figured-out that if he could manage to work just one rung loose, the entire cage would fall apart and he could escape. So he set about working on one particular rung whenever his captors weren't looking and, sure enough, eventually he managed to get it loose and made good his escape.

Now my point is that most of us are walking around with our minds in a "tiger cage". All we need to do is figure out how we are mentally imprisoned and then break out of our personal "tiger cage". This is especially true of the realm of fashion.

Glad to hear you had a bash. Too bad about the Amazon ducking out early. But not to worry, I know for a fact that some of those Minn. women know how to keep their men warm at night.

:rofl:

Now you've got, pal! We're all running a little bit off-center. The only questions that remain are 1] How Much; and 2] Which direction? So with all of that as a given, does it really matter what yer neighbors think?

Johnnie, one of the things you need to understand is that cyberspace is rather like an electronic ocean. And much like the ocean, there's a lot of flotsam & jetsam, and outright polution floating around out there. Now people take pains to keep this stuff off the ship, but if you are going to sail this ocean, sooner or later some of it washes on board. The only sure way to keep from coming in contact with it is to haul yer ship outta the water.

Well, I think there is insufficent data to support their conclusion. However, I do find the study interesting.

Okay, so yer neighbors are like mine with their tongues hung in the middle and wag on both ends. It's the same everywhere. Then there's the frau who doesn't know you like heels; or are you really sure about that? Besides, even if she doesn't know - when did you plan to tell her? But I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned lack of confidence. At the rate yer going, it'll only take you about 20 or 30 years before you wake up one day to the fact that yer spending money for something that only you know about and nobody else can appreciate, they're only a clothing item anyway, and it really doesn't make 2 hoots in a high wind what the neigbors think anyway (assuming they have something to think with). As for me, as long as I'm not shooting-up the town I really don't care what all my nosey neighbors think. Besides, you ought to see what THEY're doing.

...There are several different types of RV:

* Campers are units that slide into the bed of a pickup truck and can range from a simple shell that does nothing more than cover the truck bed up to units about 12 feet long that weigh several thousand pounds and have all the comforts of home.

* Tent trailers are units that have a solid frame and short walls, and the roof pops up and the ends slide out to reveal the living area, which usually has canvas (or newer synthetic materials) for the walls - most have at least a queen-size bed that slides out on each end and some have slides that open the main floor space even more. They are typically towed with SUVs, trucks, or larger cars.

* Travel trailers are larger trailers that have solid sides and can range from about 12 feet in length to 40 feet, many have slideout sections to increase floor space inside and have many different floor plans available to fit just about any lifestyle. They are towed by pickup trucks, full-size vans, and large SUVs with a hitch mounted below the rear bumper of the tow vehicle.

* Fifth wheel trailers are larger trailers that can be found in lengths from about 16 feet to over 40 feet and can be quite luxurious inside. They can only be towed by large pickup trucks or medium duty trucks because the hitch mechanism is mounted in the bed of the truck - the hitch is the same as what the tractor-trailer semis use.

Class D motorhomes are not very prevalent in the industry right now - they are made by taking a pickup truck cab and frame, cutting out the back wall of the cab, and building a house on the back.

Class C motorhomes are quite common - they start out as a full-size van from the front seats forward, but the area behind the seats is cut off the frame. The industry calls these "cutaway van frames". Then the house is built onto the frame. Sizes range from about 18 feet to over 30 feet. Winnebago is a company that builds a few models in this class.

Class B motorhomes are also called van conversions - a full-size van has the roof extended up to give a bit of head room inside and then the interior is added - they are smaiil inside because they are basically just vans, but they're quite popular with those who don't spend a lot of time inside them. Winnebago also builds some of these.

Class A motorhomes are the large, stereotypical, RV - built from the ground up on a large truck frame they range in size from about 25 feet up to 40 feet and can be extremely luxurious inside. They will either have a large gas engine up front or a large diesel engine out back. Winnebago also has several models in this class.

Bus conversions are the pinnacle of the industry - companies like Prevost or Gillig start with one of their buses (think Greyhound bus here!) and build the interior to the customer's specifications - they are in the 35 foot to 45 foot range and can cost upwards of a few million dollars! ...Aly

The original concept of the camper or trailer was to"get away from it all"; but with the stuff he's decribing you get to take it all with you.

The only reason I have told people I am straight on/before heel meets is that 90% of the other people who come are straight and there is a misconception by some people that guys who wear heels are likely to be gay. Not that I care either way but I wanted people to know we have a few beers and walk around town. It is not a kind of dating shop unless of course two gay guys turn up and they are welcome to get together if they want. I figure I can assure 90% of the people and perhaps upset 10% of 10% (ie 1 person out of 100) because I was not politically correct enough by mentioning that I was straight and it is 90% straight guys who come, then I would be the right side of the odds because 99/100 would at least appreciate me being honest about what we were doing.

I'm very sorry for the one person in 100 I have not been politcally correct enough for in this case. You're still VERY welcome to come along if you have been put off and meet some people of varying sexuality, but mostly straight people. I can't get more honest than that I'm afraid.

So what's with all the apologies? At least we don't brand 'em or tar & feather 'em like they used to do in days gone by.

I live in rural pennsylvania.

The search results I get with that are usually the same fetish shoes, or sites with shoes over $100.

Try some of these:

www.beverlyheels.com/incEngine/

www.classicpumps.com/

www.dazzlingheels.com/

www.dimoutshoes.com/

www.electriqueboutique.com

www.highheelspassion.biz.ly/

www.pierresilber-highheels.com/

http://highheels.4t.com/sandals5.htm

www.heelsforyou.com/

www.sexyshoes.com/

www.snaz75.com/

www.veronicas.com/

and my personal favorite:

www.italianheels.com/cgi-bin/show.pl?categoria=slippers〈=en

...Okay, forget about what you want for a day or two and think about what she wants, is it the same? I doubt it, but if you could give her what she wanted and get what you wanted at the same time, that would be a great deal...

Excellent point, Nigel! It's called "the go-giver principle". The easiest way to get what you want is to first give the other person what they want! Now here's where it gets tricky because not everyone wants the same things. So if we assume that your wife has no physical limitations that would prevent her from wearing the shoes, your first order of business is to find out what it is SHE wants and make it point to give it to her. And I don't mean bargain, I mean GIVE! Usually, when she is well-pleased her natural reaction will be to please you.

My former girlfriend had quite a few physical issues that prevented her from wearing heels in public. But because I did my best to keep her pleased, she made it a point to wear heels for me at home.

"Every night I pray that people with money get taste and people with taste get money."-- Hutton Wilkinson

Better yet, let people with money give it to people like me who will furnish them their taste.

that just made me think of my school's majorette's high-step marching in heeled boots.

...What are some good sites to find shoes on? I don't really know of any that don't have goth or fetish shoes.

Well, I can think of about 10 or 12 right fast, but without knowing where you live I'm hesitant to suggest them. Why don't you just plug High Heels or Shoes into your search engine and see what you come up with?

Now lessee here. You go out and buy a pair of over the knee boots with 6" heels and then right after you get 'em on yer pulling yer jeans down to yer *ss and sneaking around while you go out to yer car to get sumptin - right? WHY? Man, if you've already laid out the kind of loot I think those boots cost, why not show 'em off? Take 'em out to dinner or sumptin.

The poll needs another category

Whenever I feel like it

Yep. I can think of one or two more categories that might be more meaningful.

One advantage of wearing wedges

Ditto.

To my mind, stillettoes are for indoors and anyone going outside needs to seriously consider their footwear. Many women in Washington (who often wear stillettoes at their offices) change their shoes for going out of doors and for commuting to and from work.

LOL

Yeah, using *that* scale would probably do the trick! Let's hope Alternative Footwear knows which shoes are my 565987 zotny...

Right-on! Now yer getting it! And we could even go with caps for thousands which would translate into 56.6 ZOTNY's