Guy N. Heels

In fashion, out of fashion . . .

The fickle diva that is fashion is penduleum like. It swings one way then back. Face it there is only so much that can be done with a shoe and fashion is a very fickle thing subject to the whimsey of the new wave of perky little dennizens who kowtou to Vogue, Harpers, Elle and the like.

...I'm at a point where I really don't give a damn what Vogue says is "Hot". I know what works for me and I've been through the "Fashion Nazis" trying to tell me how to dress.

I have unlimited sources for my beloved Stilettos on the internet.

As I have said, I know what I like and I know what works for me.

Ciao,

Anita C.

Besides, even if they cleared the shelves, most sensible people would simply go to their closet and wear what they have on hand.

...Our politicians are living far away from reality and have lost any sincerity. That's true for your country as for mine. ...How can you trust in your president Bush? May be that he has no Monica, but thats not enough for being a trustworthy president. He is lying permanently.

micha (*having lost any respect for the most politicians*)

AHEM... This thread is trying to morph into a political rant.

However, I want to thank you, Micha, for providing us with the European disenchantment with our politicians. Except for your location, your views very much reflect my own. QUESTION: How do you know when a politician is lying to you? Answer: When you see his mouth moving!

On the other hand, it has been observed that in a democratic society, we may not get the leaders we need but we get the ones we deserve. After all, we voted for them. And I couldn't agree with you more about our politicians having lost touch with the people (and in some cases, with reality)!

But having said all of that, I do not believe that this board is homophobic (whatever that means). The clothing (or shoes) one chooses to wear reflects fashion. The way one chooses to live (including sexual preferances) reflects lifestyle.

She has returned! I just saw one of her posts somewhere.

She has emerged! I just saw one of her posts somewhere on the forum.

Anyone who isn't aware of this had best wake-up and smell the coffee! ANY shoe that moves up and down on the foot is subject to cause blisters! Any one with foot blisters is already in trouble.

In the final analysis, fashion is really about sex. Nature itself teaches us that birds and other animals have their dances and other mating rituals to attract the opposite sex. Only with homo-sapiens, we tend to use clothing and fashion. However, this is a matter that remains in a constant state of flux. Quite often, what comes into fashion goes out of style. Plus, there's really no accounting for taste. What is perceived to be quite fashionable or chic in one society is often abhorred in another. Many societies prefer men to wear jewelry while some think it is - at best - weird or ugly. Some societies find make-up to be quite revolting while it is literally big business in most western cultures. Has society gone past men in heels? I doubt it very much, but let's first talk about exactly which society you had in mind?

I'm neither sadistic nor masochistic. If pain is a part of it, I'm not for it.

High heels can, and should be ergonomically constructed, and can be done so without detracting from almost any of the current styles. For most styles, a quarter to an eighth of an inch in the right directions, plus an appropriate amount of padding or functional support, is all anyone needs to turn a painful heel into a delight.

It's a shame that some manufacturers just don't have the slightest clue.

I'm thankful for feedback forums like Zappos - it's really taken manufacturers to task.

On styles I like, but weren't in my size, I've posted numerous feedback over the last couple of years, and today, three times as many styles on Zappos come in my size. I've similarly taken them to task on cost. If I believe a shoe is one that I would like, but it's grossly overpriced, I let them know, too. One of my favorite styles for lower-heeled sandals are the Think! brand. The problem is that all are about twice as expensive as they should be, so my response was, "Think! If only I had a million dollars, or if the makers of the Think! line of shoes had Thunk!, they'd be offering these in prices (half) and sizes (13) that I could Afford! and Wear!. Since they apparently did Neither!, I have no choice but to shope Elsewhere! Fortunately, a Lot! of their competitors Do! offer their Excllent! shoes in both Sizes! and Styles! I can Wear!"

If I buy a shoe that's a delight to wear, I make sure I let the manufacturer (and their competitors) know why, in detail. Similarly, if a heel really stinks, I make I let them know why, in detail, as well.

Both the manufacturers and their competitors are paying close attention to Zappos feedbacks, so if you're buying from Zappos, make sure you throw in your two cents.

Well put, Dr1819.

Actually, I've already answered this one over on the For the Gals forum, but the bottom line for me is that it's usually quite impossible to have and maintain any kind of romantic relationship with someone who is in pain. If I have to make a choice between my S.O. wearing painful heels to please me or wearing comfortable shoes while we build a romantic relationship, I'll pick the comfortable shoes every time. To my mind the clothes and the shoes should enhance rather than detract, but in the final analysis they are merely "props" on the stage of the relationship, rather than the relationship itself.

That depends on your definition of affordable. Comfilon, in America, is not that high priced, but they admit it is more expensive than the cheap junk you get at the drug and discount stores. They say it's because they have to make small quantities, and larger sizes require more fabric. I think their stuff is good value. It's definitely more durable so I get more wearings and the cost per wearing is lower than the cheap junk. Check it out. I believe they sell through distributors in the UK, Germany, and other places.

www.comfilon.com

GWL

Your point is well taken. Personally, I am on a fixed income and I cannot afford to spend more than $5 on anything that will find it's way into the trash can after one run. Oddly enough, the amount I spend on hoisery seems to have little or no correlation to the durability. I've had some expensive stuff to run after just one outing while I'm still wearing some cheap stuff I bought years ago.

But my main point is that I cannot even consider spending upwards of $20 on so-called "male pantyhose", which is the going price in some of the catalogues I've seen.

Good grief, folks. School is starting up all over the area and everyone's out buying school supplies. Maybe they'd better bring along their Christmas shopping list as well. We've got to get rolling on this Xmas music. Time's a wasting! Daylight's BURNING! :rofl:

Well golllly! Here we are past Columbus day (Why do we celebrate that anyway instead of Leif Errikkson day? Oh yeah, now I remember, he conned the queen outta her jewels! No wonder that he had to sail 3000 miles for a getaway!!)and going on Halloween and nobody's even responded to my favorite thread yet! It's past time to dust-off those tapes and CD's about miseltoe & holly and let's get rolling on this Xmas music thing! :rudolf:Besides, who wants to be a part of the last minute rush? So let's get those jingle bells jingling!

Okay, everything I said before still goes. But if the 2 of you are not presently in marriage counseling, get back there and stay there until this crisis is resolved! One more thing, if the counselor yer seeing isn't producing any meaningful results, change the counselor.

It always seemed like that to me. Having to balance = strong ankles = better balance.

Strange that you should say that, Wolfie. Actually I have rather weak ankles, but I seem to do much better on heels. In fact, I have sustained my worst sprains (once I wore a cast for a month) in low heels. While I have had one or two spills on high heels -still, nothing serious. But for any kind of serious outdoor stuff (hiking, etc.) I always wear boots that support the ankles.

I have been wearing pantyhose daily for years. The spandex really helps support my arthritic joints and messages them all day long.

Cheers---

Dawn HH

FUR REAL? I've worn pantyhose off and on (mostly in cold weather) and always felt better, but I never knew why? Unfortunately, they don't really make affordable pantyhose for us guys.

Weeellll, I did a little research and found Laurieheels posts dating back to 2003. I started to respond, but then, 3 yrs is a long time these days. As I recall, she wuz having some truble with her computer. Seems her disk drive wuz sounding somethin like a cement mixer (definitely bad news). I would've offered her one of mine but I don't think my 40gig will even go in a 386. I don't know much about her, but I wish her well.

There is no one answer, and as I said before, both. It's what ever floats your boat, bottom line high heels can be a stimuli, visually and psychically for either the wear or the watcher. Form some it's just fashion, for others they hate them or does nothing to sexually arouse. The wearer might describe how high heels make them feel. To feel more attractive, for their own pleasure or to another person's pleasure or simply it's just fashion.

Well, I agree with what you said, but the purpose of the question was to establish whether the respondants were saying that they were experiencing sexual stimulation, or were they trying to provoke sexual arousal?

i.e. Given my girlfriend's physical problems, I seriously doubt that she ever experienced any kind of sexual arousal from wearing heels. In my estimation, she did it purely to stimulate me. Do other women wear heels for the same reason?

I haven't bought or read a newspaper for many years. I usually get all of my news off of the TV and the radio and do that with a bit of a caviote anyways. When we were on our vacation, we received a free news paper each morning in our hotel. Didn't read them-just dropped them into the waste basket each day without opening them.

Cheers---

Dawn HH

Well, I find that there is generally a little more to the news that what will fit on the average sound-byte or bumper sticker.

On Friday I purchased a copy of USA Today for $0.75, rather than the usual $0.50, and it contained a whopping 7 pieces of paper (14 pages).

THAT's a ripoff!

And what, exactly, were you expecting? In the first place, do you realize that some tree had to give it's ALL to produce that 14 page paper? And just how would you feel if some one cut you down and sold you for $0.75? Sheez, some people are hard to please.

Unfortunately, I can't seem to find how to send a PM on this new forum. Therefore, I will have to seriously amend a response that I would prefer to be more private. Fundamentally, DR1819 is correct. One really needs to keep one's perspective in these matters and try to understand that (as you state the case) the wife is forcing a choice between your footwear and the marriage. Now only a tyrant or someone so narrowminded they can look through a keyhole with both eys would force such a choice. But if that is indeed what you are facing, then it's high time to review priorities! All marriages constitute a covenant with God. While it might be less obvious for those that were confirmed before a majestrate or justice of the peace, as opposed to those that were confirmed through clergy, the concept of covenant still obtains. Therfore, are either of you fully prepared to stand before Almighty God and give answer as to why you would wilfully break your covenant and break the marriage? Furthermore, does the choice of footwear (of either party) constitute proper grounds for breaking marriage? (God only recogizes adultry and abandonment.) Now if either of you has already left the marriage bed over this, then the marriage covenant is already broken! In such event, the question becomes, are the two of you willing to return to the marriage and the covenant? Either way, God, before whom you have confirmed the covenant, will hold you, both individually and collectively, responsible. People have been known to take some silly notions about things. But if they were to stop and seriously consider the true gravity of what they are doing - well most people would come away with a totally different point of view. The matters you are discussing have some very grave consequences, indeed. You each need to take a much longer look at these matters and what is important and what isn't. I wish you the very best of luck and God's guidance in finding your way through this crisis. Let us know how it comes out.

Either the woman's reaction was way out of like or you showed her you were not confident and she took advantage of that. I don't see anything wrong with the boots you pictured.

This really is a head game. Don't let one unfortunate reaction get to you.

DITTO!

If you can't walk in heels - get some practice. If you don't know how to deal with the negative - the word is: Be Large & In-Charge!!! Nobody has a right to rain on your parade and they won't unless you let 'em.

Why does one even have to say they are gay? Do we care what you do in the bedroom? I don't go around telling people I am straight, which those would perceive I do it with a man if I did say it!

Time to get off the soap box on being gay and just live your life the way God intended, if this offends some, oh well, I have my opinion too.

Dianeheel

Right you are! Most heterosexuals don't give 2 hoots in a high wind as to a person's sexual orientation unless there is some personal reason to do so.

Unfortunately, most homosexual people are either: 1] overly sensitive to their choice of lifestyle; and/or 2] busy trying to make some big deal out of their lifestyle choice and are therefore busy making much ado about a matter that is of relatively little interest to about 97% of the population. If yer homosexual - that's yer choice. I really don't approve, but hey - it's no skin off my nose either way. I'm not the One you'll have to give answer to.

Haha, I can walk in any height heels as long as they're clonkety and don't affect my stride length too much. I have a pair of pointy shoes and I can only stand to wear them to walk around the house to amuse myself.

Wolfie, you go girl! I've got about 3 pairs of pointy stillettoes (the reason I spell it with 2 l's is because sometimes they're **ll to wear) and it's just about certain I'll never wear 'em out. About once every other month I try 'em on just to remind myself that they still fit.

But please don't go back to the chopines.

...I think it's interesting to note that the female members of this board responded to a "Why I Wear Heels" survey originally posted at Jenny's website, and subsequently posted by FireFox, here. Amazingly, sexual arousal was mentioned as a reason, and scored an average of 4 out of 10. The answers ranged from 0 to 10... In conclusion, sexual arousal associated with an inanimate object does not, in and of itself, constitute sexual fetishism, nor is it necessarily a paraphilia.

So, if you obtain sexual arousal from your heeling, whether you're a guy or a girl, that's ok, provided it doesn't eclipse the significant others in your lives, or cause yourselves or others harm.

I thought I had posted this before, but perhaps it got lost in the shuffle. I think we need some definition on the term "sexual arousal", as employed in the responses to the survey. Does that mean that the respondent experienced some sort of personal sexual arousal by/through wearing heels, or does it mean that the respondent was trying/expecting to provoke sexual arousal in someone else?

Again---It is interesting, informative, and educational. Stirring the pot a bit really does spice up the conversation. What a great bunch of minds we have here on the Forum.

Cheers---

Dawn HH

Thank you, Dawn. (Interestingly enough, my favorite English teacher was named Dawn.) I bow to your wisdom.

...Besides, going back over the numbers of the poll, I did what's commonly done with statistical data - I threw out the highest and lowest responses. Since there were more responses in the 4.5 inch ranger than the lowest range, the mean is now much closer to 3.5 inches, and for expedience, we can simply call it 3.5 inches.

Right you are, Dr1819. Nevertheless, just to try and keep it honest I did include both the 2" votes as well as the 5" votes. Still, that 3.5" number seems to be holding pretty solid.

Re: permission to be born...

We don't need permission to be born (at least not yet), just a document to ceretify birth!

GNH: Fortunatly we live in a society where you can state that without fear of someone knocking down your door and arresting you as a threat to national security...

YET!!!