Guy N. Heels

I think somebody wuz trying to say sumptin 'bout IMAGE!

I spent a while reading through this thread, and can see some valid points on both sides of the wire.

For my personal choice, I have decided that I am not going to add to my profile weather I'm male or female. People can ask me if they so choose, and for a few people who knew me from another forum, its well known anyway

Its all down to personal opinions of course. I'm not on this board looking for someone to chat up, meet with & get married! But the wealth of information, ideas and advice in communities like these is boggling (at least it is to me!). Hopefully I will learn alot, make some friends and have a bit of a laugh. Its hard to find a group of such accepting people like what I see around here, and I'm glad I've finally found somewhere where I seem to fit in - well almost.

I've never been to England and wouldn't know you if you walked in my front door. Not that it's important to me in the least, but I'll just tell you yer a man, balacau. Like someone said, just read a few posts and you'll be able to figure out who's who and what's going on.

Here in England, Christmas seems to start just after the August bank holiday. You begin seeing christmas stuff in the shops then. At least in the US it can wait until Thanksgiving.

In any case aren't Christmas and Chanukah just a case of northern hemisphere religions hijacking good old pagan solstice celebrations.

Please allow me to inform this poor misguided urchin that Chanukah absolutely is NOT a solstice celebration! It is a celebration of the rededication of the Jewish temple during the time of the Roman wars with the Maccabees. It just happens to fall during that time of year, but it really is a celebration of the triumph of justice over evil, and the weak over the strong. Even more, the Jews have the good sense to celebrate for 8 days while the Christians only celebrate one day. And they don't play Chanukah music for 1/4 of the year, either.

Today, I saw a man wearing bright orange clogs from crocs.

I know most of you hate these shoes, but it is still a step in the right direction that these come in men's sizes and men are actually wearing them.

Today I saw some men wearing bright orange jumpsuits - but that don't mean I want to wear one.

This is what I am talking about. I am trying to figure out how to get the word out, "that there are a lot of men that want to wear heels".

Let's all keep thinking about this. If we put our minds to it, we can come up with some ideas that will work.

I really don't know just what it is you expect to "work". heels910. But speaking of work, just yesterday I was required to attend a meeting on how to evacuate a building in the event of an emergency. Well long story short, the presenter was giving advice about people wearing/keeping some comfortable shoes handy in case one needed to go down stairs or escape from a building in a hurry. Then he said - totally unsolicited and unprovoked in any way - "This applies to both men and women, high heels are not sensible shoes and can lead to serious problems in trying to evacuate a building. People who wear 4 inch heels will just slow others down and endanger themselves. If you normally wear high heels, keep another pair of shoes handy."

Folks, this was given in the main auditorium of a major office of the US government right in Washington, DC. So if the US government is now recognizing men wearing high heels - just how much more recognition do you need?

Actually it's FAILED On-ROAD DESIGN which results in Driver Returns On Foot. I"ve had one - absolutely the most loveable piece of junk any man could want.

the cats out of the bag...meow...let him go...follow the advice of henry ford the second...dont complain,dont explain

I agree, that cat is definitely out of the bag! Another way to look at it - have you ever tried putting the tootpaste back in the tube?

But now here's another one for you. What makes you so certain that Jill isn't a "switch-hitter"? I think yer frau has her back up cause she's perceiving some intrusion on her territory and her man. The heels may just be a focal point for discussion while her real focus is on you! You'd better go slow on this one, buddy.

Then You've GOTTA get that violin case!

First of all, friends don't let friends drive Fords - especially red ones.

I am still here. Thank you for your concern.

It is an interesting debate. I hope nobody has got their feelings hurt, and no toes stepped on (it really hurts when they get stepped on with spike heels ).

It is all good.

Kneehighs would be the legal dept.

Well, I suppose Heels910 sorta got an earful. The plain & simple fact is that men need to address heels as part of a fashion statement. Nothing inspires confidence like a man who knows where he's going and can dress the part and carry it off. Few things are more pathetically uninspiring than a man who lacks the poise and confidence to carry it off. Men who wish to add heels to their wardrobe as a fashion accessory should do so with the same degree of determination and confidence you would find in an olympic athlete! The poise and the confidence will inspire others who might otherwise shy away.

I have a striped suit and a fedora! Have only worn them for dance exhibitions, playing a 30s gangster part. The last time was a 30s dance party in the grand ballroom on the Queen Mary, just a month or two ago.

Man, you missed the whole scene without the violin case! Add a dark silk shirt and a brilliant white painted silk tie with matching pocket handkercheif and you'd be right on target - er uh - you know what I mean. :rofl:

Okay, but do they also come with an airsick bag?

The problem isn't the "fashion" choice in itself. The problem is that there are certain ques that trigger images in our mind based on what we see and what we perceive.

For alot of women, seeing a man all of a sudden in clothes that are associated with a woman, they see the man as "girly". For some women this might not be a problem, but for my wife and I can only assume Stormie (not trying to put words in her mouth though), all of a sudden they see their "manly-man" as a woman or more feminie than they would like.

This is why open communication, fears, etc are important. For my wife, I saw where she was coming from and worked out a compromise. I now wear less obvious wedge shoes that give me the heeled feeling I want and tone down the "girly-man" image she doesn't want. After all as she tells me "I am not a lesbian, if I wanted to be with a woman I would be with a woman, but I am straight, I want a man".

Who knows, perhaps over time as she gets used to me wearing heels and maybe if more people wear them and it is socially accepted that men wear heels that will change, but for right now, this minute, as long as I want the relationship, I have to be open to her fears and concerns just as she is open to my wants and desires. Scotty

So lessee, the problem here is not the fashion, but the image. Yeah, I can kinda relate to that - let any guy try wearing a red blazer in the lobby of any prominent hotel and see what happens. Or try wearing a dark chalk stripe suit with a wide brim fedora into the train station in Chicago - especially while carrying a violin case. But that really doesn't change the person in the clothes any more than wearing a wig changes the woman (or man) wearing it.

I agree with SScotty, we should not push the fashion envelope at the expense of a significant relationship. But I also think that our significant others need to respect our desires to expand our horizons and mode of expression. Otherwise we can all pitch the wigs, make-up, heels, jewelry, and everything else into the rubbish heap and go back to wearing loin-cloths and bear skins.

Having said that, it is still hard to walk into a crowded shop or down a street feeling like all eyes are on you and thinking people are wondering why that guy is wearing heeled footwear clearly designed for the opposite gender.

I don't see anything clearly designed for the opposite gender. I see some nice looking shooz. So what is the problem?

Has anyone ever read "The 4000 Years of Christmas"?

ok then: simply put, I DON'T wear my heels outside the house.... I'd like to but 6"-7" plats are a bit wild to go out in! and I can not tone my heels down: as it is impossible to find the "normal" heels in a US womens 13 here!

Whoa there, Txt-1!

Here in the States a women's size 13 is about the upper end of the off-the-shelf size and I have definitely seen 'em at Payless! And while I've never been "down-under", I know for a fact that I've seen size 13 heels being thrown on the Payless $5 "get rid of 'em now" pile at Ala Moanna Mall in Hawaii. So I'm having a little trouble believing you all ain't got a Payless or some similar store in Perth or Sydney, or someplace down there. Besides, I also know that there are Chinese shoe mfgrs. in Tiawan who will make custom shoes (even stainless steel) at reasonable prices. So how about giving it another look around there , mate?

We have the coin operated carts here, too.

Where I live, the mall and the parking lot are equipped with an alarm system. When (well... if) caught taking the cart out of the parking lot, you'll get fined at least 25 Euros.

Abuse of the carts and outright theft is a real problem here in the US. Technically, anyone who takes a cart out of a store and fails to return it is subject being charged with feloneous theft (carts are usually worth about $100 and because of ancient laws, felonies usually start at around $20), but it's never enforced! :x But matters get much worse when people just shove then into ditches and waterways to get rid of 'em.

I have seen the coin operated carts for about 25 cents and, since the store is new, I don't know yet how well that's working out. But clearly there will be no end to the problem unless the individual has some incentive (monetary deposit or otherwise) to return the carts. Otherwise nobody wants to do the right thing.

I think it's done by male designers - who aren't members of this forum.

i.e. never engage brain when it comes to the practicality of their designs!

BB

Also, here in the States we should never ignore the possibility that they were designed by a Georgia Tech dropout or a Texas Aggie.

Yeah! Also they look at me so strange when they ask me if I want to get a hair cut and I tell 'em I really expected to get more than that cut. :rofl:

Not bad. Not bad at all.

Hi Everyone!

Just a simple question for all you outdoor high heel wearers, where are you?

I've been a part time outdoor wearer for a couple of years now and I can't say that I have ever seen another guy in heels while I am out and about!

John

Well, judging from what I've seen in this thread so far, it seems to me that we'll all just have to put on our heels and take a nice stroll in the park, and the mall, and to the grocer, and to the restaurant and to the ...

Some interesting posts here... First of all, I'd like to point out that A. Einstein was not really a physicist. He was actually a mathematician. He worked at the patent office to pay his bills because he couldn't find a job as a professor. Inconsistant? I think it was his middle name. Now back to the hair - I used to wear mine to the collar. In fact, I had my ears pierced and wore earrings that nobody could really see for years. Then I became much more radiant in the rear of the craneum. Today I can still sprout enough hair to reach the shoulders, but it looks odd with my natural tonsure. So every once in a while I decide to loosen-up the purse strings and go see my barber. But I demand a discount because technically all he can give me is a "trim around the ears". :rofl:

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That's because they'll be starting to play christmas music again silly!

Right on, Dr Shoe! They used to celebrate 12 days of Xmas in the dead of winter. But now they want 12 months of rank paganism all year long!!! :x I suppose the next thing will be a return to killing the "Lord of Misrule" as a human sacrifice!

Man, I don't know what you're getting all bent outta shape about. Around Washington, DC even the Classical stations are playing Xmas music 24/7. I'm having trouble finding a station that doesn't play the annoying junk! :x In fact, even the Good Humor trucks (ice cream vendors) are playing the stuff in the middle of summer! (if I'm lying, I'm dying) Considering the kind of mess people have made outta all this rank paganism, I think we were better off when Xmas was BANNED in this country!