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This is a spin-off of my last post entitled, "Sadly, That Will Not Be Happening Again!" because part of this story is a related to that thread and part of it is not. Part One: My swearing off of 4"+ heels only lasted for a week as today, I wore a pair of beautiful 4.75" block-heeled, western styled boots to the office. At either the end of 2023 or the start of 2024, I purchased a pair of beautiful boots (Brand - Raye/Model - Inferno, an appropriate name as they are hot!) via Revolve.com. I have only worn them out once because they always seemed a bit too fancy for wearing wearing to the office. They seem (and are) to be very appropriate for a fancy event or other "dressy" occasion. In fact, I wore these boots to a fancy dinner with a former work colleague about two years ago. Since then, they have sat in my closet waiting to be worn again when the opportunity presented itself. Since that first wearing, however, I have never really had the opportunity to wear them out as fancy dinners or other similar events are few and are between. Given such and my belief that any item I own should be worn out at some point, I have long contemplated selling them in some way, shape, or form. Today is New Year's Eve and I was in the mood to dress up a bit for the office to celebrate the last day of 2025/coming of 2026. I have a lovely burgundy dress that I had yet to wear which, like the boots, is a bit on the fancier side. So, I decided to pair them for the day and what a pairing it was! I generally gravitate towards dresses with a waist tie but as this dress did not have one, I took a black neck scarf and used that as I waist belt. I had thought the boots were a 4.25" heel but when I measured them upon arriving at the office, only then did I realize that they were 4.75." I realized they were taller than I had believed as they just had a certain feel to them, in terms of heel height. Regardless, they were very comfortable and after my work day was done, I ran a quick errand to pick-up a few items for my New Year's Eve dinner. No problems in wearing them all day on any front - no pain in the hips, back, knees, and/or ankles. I just have to wonder if slightly lower heel (0.25") really makes a difference or if they are just of better quality that the once I recently wore. Regardless, I am glad I kept them. Part Two: Some time ago, I happened to view a picture of a female reporter wearing a pair of gorgeous black leather boots while interviewing an individual on the air at her Texas television station. Sadly, there was no information about her boots although when seeing them, I remember thinking to myself that they were "killer" and I would give my left eye to have a pair. I bookmarked the photo as a reference/reminder to look for a similar pair as that would probably be the best I could do. Shortly after I received that boots that are the topic of this post, I went back to that photo to see how my boots compared to those which the reporter was wearing. After carefully examining the boots in the photo with mine, low and behold I realized that, quite by chance/luck, I had purchased the same pair the reporter was wearing! Needless to say, I was quite surprised for a few reasons but more so than not, in a state of disbelief of my find. The manner in which the reporter was wearing them for that interview was very much an inspiration for my New Year's Eve outfit. What's interesting about these boots is that when I first wore then out, the height of the heel was challenging for me but today, not problem what so ever!

OK, so I felt guilty about slacking, so I pulled out my highest regular heels for church yesterday morning. I actually had the morning off from musical duties, so I could sit with my family in the congregation like a normal person. These particular pumps are some off brand called Elisabet Tang. There is another brand called GenShuo that is exactly the same. They are inexpensive shoes, but appear to be well made for what they are. They are slightly higher than the similar Steve Madden shoes of that ilk like the Daisie, but still clock in at a mere 11.3 cm when translated to size 38. I thought I did ok in them. I didn't have to walk more than 30 meters at a time, though, so I can't give a real assessment. At the time this photo was taken, the wind had picked up to about 40 km/h, and everything was starting to ice over. Therefore, I switched to boots to after that to run errands.

On your last post I somehow already had the feeling that this won't be the end of 4"+ heels for you 😉 I know that feeling. Even if i was sometimes demotivated with a pair that was higher than what I usually wear, it never let me go! The higher it gets, the more small increasements in heel height will already make a big difference. I'm sure you felt that.

I'm surprised you didn't get clocked on the head with a frying pan!

Crawling about the rocks in high heels would be insane. Sneakers are appropriate in this case. (BUT ONLY in this case.)

What you have said is absolutely correct, but the "context" of my original statement has a much simpler explanation: It was supposed to be, you know, funny. Or at least mildly amusing. Tongue-in-cheek, that sort of thing. I am hanging my head in despair, knowing that I have failed miserably in my attempt at humor. Wouldn't be the first time, and certainly won't be the last. What adds interest to this story is that you're not wrong! I rarely miss an opportunity to wear heels. Put another way, and perhaps closer to the way I actually feel, you will rarely catch me wearing flats unless there is a compelling reason to do so. I don't always wear high heels in the sense of our definition, but it's always in the back of my mind that I would love to be able to wear the highest heels well, and that definitely requires practice, preferably daily practice. In my case, the limitation doesn't really involve pain or lack of endurance, it is lack of ankle flexibility. Therefore, I do not have the effortless walk that is required to really pull of 12+ cm shoes.

@mlroseplant Thanks for the compliment! Indeed, the boots are fabulous and for the most part, rather comfortable in both wearing and walking. I was recently doing some "experimenting" with different looks with these boots and realized that they can be "dressed up," as seen in the photo, or "dressed down" with a pair of skinny jeans. The "issue" I face is that I have very little real life reference as to the current state of contemporary fashion. As I have noted, probably ad nauseum, my employer has no dress code of which to speak other than "jeans are permissible." Beyond that, just about "anything goes" provided that one could make a case that the item covering one's body is somehow clothing. The only mandate that has been expressed is that when I or some of my colleagues are out in the field for a meeting, we present ourselves in a professional capacity. For some (mostly my male counterparts) it means simply changing from a t-shirt to a polo style shirt and that is as far as it goes. Likewise, with the exception of the "Goth Chic," I could count the number of times I have seen any woman in my building wearing a skirt on two fingers, and I have never observed a man wearing a necktie or so much as a dress shirt. This, sadly, pertains to all individuals within my building across all five floors of it. Thus, trying to determine what is/is not appropriate office fashion is really left to my own discretion. So, with no real point of reference as to what others are wearing, I tend to lean towards conservative pieces so as to be safe. Some time ago, I purchased a pair of black, flat heeled riding boots that, for me, were more embellished than I would normally wear (with exactly what, however, is hard to describe - see the photo). Perhaps interesting to some degree, I am much more comfortable wearing these that a pair of towering heels. I guess that I am stuck on the notion that the taller the heel, the closer it is to being unacceptable for office attire. With respect to the second point, I find it to be interesting that above 4," each measurable increment (e.g. 1/2," 1/4," etc.) truly make a difference in how easy it may be to walk in whatever heels are being worn. Thinking about the boots that are the topic of this point, I recall that the first time I wore them they felt incredibly tall and perhaps, even "too tall" for me at the time. Without a doubt, I needed to practice walking in them prior to first wearing them out. Now, however, they are very manageable but probably at the maximum limit of what I realistic can wear. Sure, I can walk in 5" heels, but not for very long or very far. At 5," however, I can feel that my stride is much shorter and my cadence feels choppy as if I am taking half-steps. I just do not feel that I have the grace in 5" heels that is needed to make them a normal item to wear as much as I would love to do so.

Indeed. It’s what I would call living dangerously

Gosh, I wish I could be so casual about wearing 12cm stiletto boots ... I'll get there one day, I hope, but I've sure got some practicing ahead of me ...

I ventured into women's jeans and cords 8 years ago and haven't ventured out. In Levi's I have several 311's both red tag and cords. In Express I have many different styles, mostly skinny, size 10 and some 8's. Some are 'short', I like the short versions for some boots because the stop before the ankles and don't give me extra bulk around the ankles. My boots fit better. I have gotten a few 'straight jeans' and recently I have some skyscraper in size 10 and 8. I just got a size 6, I can get them on and close the button and zip them up, but they are a little too tight for now. Hopefully, I will be able to wear them with a little more weigh lose. Several of my cords are JAG. I get compliments in those all the time. Love the new 4-way stretchable materials.

I have several pairs of heels which would be no problem for 5.5 miles. I also have several pairs that would be an absolute disaster in that distance! What I would very much not like to do is carry a sousaphone that far. I used to think 2 mile parades were hell, much less three times that distance.

That would be a tough day! I remember being at a local fair with the kids and as we were leaving I saw a young couple, 18-20 years old and she was wearing high heels. It was apparent she was already regretting her shoe choice. She had a grimace on her face and had not even made it out of the parking lot area yet. It is hard to describe, but I am sure everyone on here has seen the look, that grimace with every step with dread at making the next because she knew it was going to be painful. I felt bad for her because I knew she was probably wearing them for her boyfriend, and that is truly commendable. Not that someone should be in pain on account of someone else, but that she wanted to please her date. But considering how far she had to go, then the walking required at a fair over asphalt and grass grounds, it probably meant a trip back to the car early for her.

I might have taken @mlroseplant out of context too, at least in terms of motivation. I know he tracks his kilometers walking in heels and it is only natural when you do that, to want to increase the number. In that context, when looking at choosing between flats and high heels, it is only natural to see wearing flats as a missed opportunity to increase your overall kilometers in high heels per year. For others... like my wife... shoes are part of the outfit, and having the ability to make it formal, or informal, is part of the fun. I side with her in some sense on that because as a traditional man that dresses as such, as we talked about on another part of this forum about jazzing up the male wardrobe, I am a bit jealous of her because I think my choices of fashion and footwear are a little lackluster.

First - has anyone seemed to notice that the pop-up adds, as well as those coming up from the bottom of the screen, have increased and make writing more difficult and annoying? Anyways... Recently, I have been battling a slight cold that, at the end of the work day, has left me feeling drained of energy and wanting to do no more than spend the evening sitting in front of the television (nothing serious - I'm fine). So, I have (including New Year's Eve) been binge watching my favorite childhood television show, Emergency! For UK/EU members, this was (most likely) the first American drama series that revolved around a medical/fire-rescue environment and aired from 1972 to 1977. While watching the old episodes, I made some observations about the state of fashion and how certain items worn then are still being worn today, even if slightly different. First, with respect to the men's fashion du jour, all I can say is YIKES! It was bad and there is little redemption to it. With respect to the women's fashion, however, one can clearly see how certain trends worn during the time period of the show can be and are actually still worn today. In one episode, a woman was wearing an outfit that consisted of a maroon top, khaki colored wide-leg pants/trousers, and a brownish colored jacket (I do not recall the footwear beyond them being a pair of matching pumps). It was an outfit that if worn today, it would have no obvious signs that it was actually worn in the mid-70's. A later episode featured the beautiful Mariette Hartley wearing a brown striped, matching top/cardigan sweater combo, with black, wide-leg (non bell-bottom) pants/trousers and simple black flats (or low heeled pumps). Again, an outfit that could not be easily dated if viewed without any reference to the time period in which it was actually worn. The most recent episode I watched featured a young woman wearing a pair of double strapped, black patient Mary Janes, with a blue, just above the knee, slightly pleated skirt. What was most interesting about her shoes was that I have a contemporary pair that is very similar to that episode which first aired in 1975. The photo I have attached is of my pair of double strapped Mary Janes and if the heel on those were about 1/2 the height they are, one would essentially have the same shoe as seen on the TV show. Not to get off topic, but I recently wore my Mary Janes to the office with a pair of black, subtle patterned tights and a just above the knee black skirt. One of my female colleagues commented about the cuteness of the shoes and I replied that they, as well as the outfit, definitely had a 1960s mod flavor to it. Turns out, my description was rather accurate. So, I guess the two points I am trying to make here is that, first, timeless will always be timeless; certain styles will always outlive trends and fads. Second, what may separate time periods (in a fashion sense) from one another may be no more than putting a new twist on an old idea/item. Sure, the show features are many examples of mostly individual late teens/early 20s) dressing as if they were living in Haight-Ashbury and older people dressing is styles that made the 70's an awful time for fashion (just a note - wearing non-matching stripes and patterns as part of the same outfit is often a fashion disaster). There are examples, however, of the fact that, as just noted, simple pieces can be timeless. It is very much this approach has governed and influence my approach to my clothing choices. I say this with a serious degree of cynicism but I rather see clothing styles focus more on timeless pieces rather than new styles being introduced with every season. I guess if such were the case, then there is little money to be made in the fashion industry.

I’ll third the motion. I love knee boots, with or without heels and those are very nice

Giege , I would wear those flat heel boots as I did wear a pair of mine on New Year's Eve on a shopping trip with my wife. We were having heavy snow falling at the time so my heeled boots were definitely out of the question. Mine were just a plain riding boot with 1" heels and no ornamentation like yours, however I would wear a pair like yours in a heartbeat! Happy New Year Happy Heeling, bluejay

No, not at all. Wearing heels, at least for me, and I think for @mlroseplant and @higherheels as well, it’s a matter of style and fashion and I think it’s fair to say that we like stiletto heels in the 10 to 13cm range. And to be able to walk well in lofty stilettos you need a lot of practice. In my case I had a pair of 12cm stiletto knee boots I bought for their aesthetics but had never learned to walk well in them. @higherheels has a pair of imperious Louboutin Hot Chicks with 13cm heels which very few people can wear with panache, while @mlroseplant walks marathon distances in lower heels but also likes the aesthetics of higher ones. But other people will have entirely different aesthetics and personal styles. It’s by no means a given that everybody wants to move up into ever higher heels.

Thank you! I felt pretty chuffed! And yes, 10cm is like a magic border! 8cm chunky heels are fun but proper high heels start at 10cm - and (for me) the perfect aesthetic is 12cm stiletto boots

Deep freeze along the canal - the frozen lumpy towpaths not at all inviting for anyone in heels, but a good day to be puttering about inside, putting extra lumps of coal on the fire and click-click-clicking about the galley making coffee and a hot breakfast! So the year seems off to a good start

Just finished watching the Rose Parade on TV (only saw two in-person) and watch several women in heels, some high. Wonder how will they look at the end of the 5.5 mile (8.85 km) parade?

First, Happy new year to all 🙂 Haha I had to laugh so hard on this, but it's true! Everytime I think that I almost live in heels, you guys come along and prove me wrong 😀 Whenever I have some manual work to do, I'm always in sneakers. Impressive that you wear heels for that! For me the only thing that makes me feel a bit awkward about it is that I'm only out for practice, and not going anywhere. It's a different feeling than if I'm actually doing something or going somewhere. Other than that, I have the impression that people don't really care. I mean, some people seem to generally have a look as soon as they hear or see heels, no matter how high or low. But wether it's a 11, 12 or 13 cm heel all seems to be in the "insanely high" category and draw the same attention. @Shyheels and @mlroseplant you have some great New Year's resolutions already! I'll take it a bit easier without a strict time/distance plan, but I'll definitely proceed with wearing out my 13+ cm boots and the Hot Chicks regularly. Despite the predictable standing time I chose my 13+ cm boots for New Year's Eve, so I already started high into 2026 🙂

Yes @higherheels has been a real inspiration, not only wearing 12cm as a matter of course but taking on the challenge of wearing Hot Chicks and her even higher boots out and about. It’s nice having that sort of example and inspiration - as well as your high mileage efforts. i am going to do exactly what you describe - set a number of minutes or metres each day and work up. I’ve already noticed how the challenge has dramatically improved my abilities in my 10cm boots. I’m looking forward to the new years challenge!

My thoughts, @Shyheels Perhaps it would be good to set defined goals, such as "we're going to wear our 12 cm (which I don't technically own, by the way) three times a week for x minutes, or y meters. Something like that. Maybe you will have the opportunity to move your boat to a better spot for getting off of it without safety concerns or ruining nice shoe concerns. But, if you're already having to carry your art supplies to someplace, why not a different pair of boots? As for me, I need to get over feeling a little self conscious about "walking over my head." @higherheels evidently does not have a problem walking around her neighborhood in insanely high heels, so perhaps it's time to take a page out of that book. Happy New Year everyone!

I spent yesterday afternoon working on an outboard project, wearing my 4" nine west booties. These booties are very easy to walk in and look great. But, will have to admit it, sore feet after standing around at the work bench for three hours...

YIPES! You gambled on playing with fire for sure

I’m a boots, jeans and jumper guy and will remain so. It’s nice that the English climate accommodates me so well although even when I lived in Australia it was still boots and jeans as a rule. It’s more fun still when the boots have a 10cm - and more exciting still, a 12cm heel!

I don't remember foot changes with pregnancy with my wife, but I have heard of it happening. Interesting that they never returned to pre-pregnancy size though. I remember getting into trouble during that time period with her weight. I teased her and called her "whale belly" because she was into workouts and fitness when she got pregnant. I asked the OBGYN at the time how much weight a woman should gain during pregnancy, and he said between 15-25 pounds. I thought my wife looked huge, so I asked her how much she had gained and he said, "15 pounds". That was when I knew I was in trouble! 🙂 But I also teased her about the baby-weight not coming off after the baby. She wanted to prove me wrong so bad that after giving birth it was 22 days before she lost her baby weight. She had to modify her exercise routine, so she did not cause damage to parts of her that had passed a baby, but I thought 22 days to pre-pregnancy weight was pretty darn good.

Even though this is supposed to be a thread about durable heels, it seems like a good place to put shoe failures as well. I just had Shoe Failure No. 4 in 2025 last night. I really thought I was going to make it with just 3 failures this year. My BCBGeneration Queenie wedges yielded up the ghost. Funny thing is, I never really wore them all that seriously. They were pretty much just house shoes. I'm sure I wore them to the grocery store or other errands quite a few times, but I do not have any record of them having been part of my walking routine. I do not know whether I will attempt to replace them, since I have other mid heeled wedges that are less clunky looking.

I understand that foot size often changes during or after pregnancy. My mom said she used to wear size 5 back in the 60s and before. By the time I came along, all I can remember in her closet is 6 1/2 or better. And yes, I did try on her shoes when she wasn't around. My ex-wife's feet swelled up something terrible when she was pregnant with my older son. Luckily, it was summer, and she bought a pair of single band leather slides, and that's all she could wear for a couple of months. Amazingly, only a few short hours after giving birth, her feet shrank back down to normal size, and that's where they've stayed ever since, as far as I know. My current wife's feet increased a whole size after giving birth to my younger son. This was kind of disappointing to me, because we had gone to the great trouble of bringing about 50 pairs of shoes from Vietnam, most of them heels, and none of which fit her within months of coming to the U.S.

Absolutely, I can't imagine wearing flats all the time

I think regularly wearing heels is simply a great idea all around

Incredible to see that hhplace and some of it's members exists for so long! I was still a child at that time and the Internet wasn't even really a thing for me until the early 2000s. However I do remember that when first looking for information about high heels I found hhplace 🙂

This may anger some on here, and it certainly is not meant too, but my wife switches often between wearing a particular dress with high heels and maybe sneakers. They are a specific type, what we call Keds here, but other call plimsolls in other countries. It depends on her mood because what she wears for shoes changes the whole meaning of the outfit. High heels just naturally look more formal, whereas the Keds give her a more youthful, informal look. I give her my opinion on what she should wear, but it's just a suggestion: I am not the Shoe Police that is for sure. Here is an example. She is wearing a sundress and Keds (plimsolls) in this photo. She thought Keds would look more informal because it was her maternity photoshoot for our daughter. I am in no way saying high heels would have been inappropriate, but it was one of those fashion decisions that she made. But she likes her high heels and will wear them too. Does the shoes work with the outfit for the scope of the photoshoot? Please: be the judge of that for yourself.

I was back a member in the late 1990's... but then left for many years. Not upset at anything or anyone, just lost interest. I recently came back but had forgotten my username and password so I started all over. I am not sure that counts anyway. But I do remember the early years!

Same for me. I wore my 13 cm boots at home a few times, but only out once. There was a lot going on before Christmas, so I didn't have quite the time to practice a lot. Naturally there were also many partys and events where I wore some 12 cm boots, so I'm not totally out of routine 🙂

Well, having to find a 38" inseam is surely not one of my issues. It sounds like you have a long and lean physique, which of course, is perfect for tight fitting women's jeans. Is the inseam length as much of an issue if you wear your boots over the jeans? In other words, can you get away with a much shorter inseam if you wear the jeans inside the boots? For me, I have just experimented with thrift shop girl jeans. I didn't want to spend big bucks not really knowing what size/length would be right for the old "dad bod". I found a pair of "lucky brand" dark blue "hayden" 12-31 stretch jeans that fit nicely. They are low rise, so it seems important having the old butt in decent form to keep them from drooping down, I just wear a belt. I have a dark grey pair of the same lucky jeans/same size, probably donated by the same person. I like these jeans because they stretch so fit fairly tight without feeling constricting. Definitely look nice with my nine west blank stiletto ankle boots, or most any boots for that matter. A few years back, I ventured into the levis store in Vegas, looking for a pair of women's jeans. It seems like styles have changed, most women's jeans now seem to be "high rise", saw no real "low rise" styles. Not a fan of the high rise look though. My go to for years was always the levis 511s, they fit fairly nicely. Tried a pair of 510s years back also, had to face the fact that I am not 29 anymore. The sales person in the levis store was quite pleasant and helpful, I'm sure she realized she had a sale if she just stuck with me while I pondered several styles. Finally, she recommeded levis 512s. These seem to be a combination of 510s, nice tight fit on the legs, combined the a slightly more "dad bod" fit around the waist hips. I really like the way the fit and bought a pair, probably should have bought two pairs, they might be discontinued now!

Same here! Again a combination of winter weather, a muddy towpath, and frankly a bit of holiday laziness. Like you, I’ve worn mid heels as a kind of maintenance heel to keep myself in some kind of heel wearing condition. I’m making mastering 12cm heels a New Year’s resolution though and going to get right back into practicing.

It has still not been a great month for practicing in super tall heels. Part of the reason is the weather, but part of it is that I'm taking a bit of a break from walking in heels just for the sake of walking in them. I've had the last four days off due to the Christmas holiday, and I've actually gone out walking on three out of the four. I purposefully wore mid heels for two of those days, because I figured I would be a little out of condition, and didn't want to overdo it. Nothing bad happened, so I switched to actual high heels yesterday. I did my 2.1 mile (3.4 km) route in the equivalent adjusted steepness of 10.5 cm, and wow, the difference between 9 cm and 10 1/2 is remarkable, or so my calves thought! And it's not like I gave up wearing heels altogether, I just haven't been pounding the pavement like I usually do.

The business does seem to be defunct, with no active links that I can see. But this one may indicate a new (or intended) business, although it is unclear whether that is an active advert: https://www.instagram.com/cowboybootscustom/ I bought one pair of MJ boots several years ago and was pleased with the quality and fit. A shame if he is no longer in business.

I still have my first pair of hh cowboy boots that are Western Ranch. Have had them resoled twice. The toe and heel show wear, but a good polishing hides a lot. All of my MJ boots and shoes were custom from my measurements, so have been blessed with a great fit!! As to the Wranglers, I find the pockets are great!! After Levi’s did away with the ‘original spin’ custom jeans, I tried American Eagle jeans as well as Vanity, BKE, Miss Me even Cruel Girl. Miss Me were great!! But very expensive. American Eagle tends to run thin, but fit great, but finding 38” inseam was hard. Vanity was my go to low rise boot cut until they shuttered. Cruel Girl I loved but could only find 36” inseam. BKE were great too but again ran thin and 38” inseam has been difficult. So for the last 5 years Wrangler has been my favorite. I’d love to hear other guys experiences with women’s jeans with their hhboots!! tightlevishhboots!!!

Compliments from guys are the ultimate compliments indeed!

Sounds very festive! And nice to receive the compliments!

So sorry to hear this, those boots are beautiful. I have the same difficulty, 4" heels no problem, 5" heels are a problem for extended wear. I finally found a pair of black nine west stiletto booties with 5" heels that were comfortable and fairly easy to walk in. I was on cloud nine until I broke one of the heels from walking so much. Needless to say, nine west discontinued this particular style, but I did manage to find another pair used. Don't give up Gige!

I’ve had back troubles in the past - a ruptured disc a long time ago - and have found that heels really help. Not really high heels - I don’t think 10 or 12cm would help, certainly not 12cm! But 8cm chunky heels are really good. When I had a kid I had a toe injury that had a very beneficial side effect! I was goofing around, running through the house (aged about 12j and managed to break my little toe on the leg of a table. It hurt. My foot swelled up and I couldn’t wear my shoes. It was winter and my mother had a pair of mid heel knee boots that I could get my foot into. And so my mother lent them to me. I was delighted. I secretly wished I could wear knee boots and here was my opportunity. I had sure to take a long time healing. But then winter ended and I had to give up my borrowed boots. Looking back I realise that nobody - not a soul - commented in my wearing mid heel women’s knee boots. There it was - an open possibility to wear heels

I can see where high heels would actually be good for the foot. I recently had to get some work boots and decided to get professionally fitted for them. It was found out that my feet have gone from a size 9 to size ten. When I asked how that could be the guy told me its because my feet are flattening out and so my feet are getting longer, but also thinner. So I could see where with heels, and your arch being formed solidity, it might actually help your feet, especially against backpain. I once worked at a job where we had to wear steel toed boots with steel metatarsal plates and EVERYONE went to a chiropractor. It protected your feet from dropped steel, but also kept your foot from flexing with each step. Add in 10 hour days and something had to give and for all of us, it was our backs.

Or you could throw caution to the wind and join @Shyheels, @higherheels, me, et al. in our quest to manage steeper heels in everyday life. I'm sure you've seen the thread "Aiming High" in the Everybody section. We are certainly not up for injuring ourselves, but each of us thinks we can do incrementally better than what we already do. It's a lot of fun!

I took a bus to a nearby town today to do some shopping. I had thought about bringing my practice heels and practicing but I knew I was going to be doing a lot of walking and carrying a rucksack full of shopping so I went in my chunky heeled knee boots. As you say, both for men and women trainers seem to be de rigueur these days That said, winter - boot season - is the time of year when you will see the most heels. As I was liked around the town I did see a number of women in heeled knee boots. The men, with the exception of me, were universally in ratty trainers. Although I wasn’t practicing in my 12cm stilettos, it was nice to walk about the town in my chunky heels - it’s all good grist for the mill!

Like @mlroseplant, when I started to wear women's shoes in (aka stopped wearing men's shoes), I hide them under longer pants. And those were at most 6.4 cm heels. Then when I had to raise my heel 4 inches I hide them at first. But it was a hot summer, over 100 F (38 C) daily, so I wore shorts and exposed my heels and got thicker skin. Now I wear my tall boots on the outside; yesterday I had my Jessica Simpson black knee highs on and got "that's a fierce fashion statement" from a waiter when I went to the restroom. I have about a dozen stilettos but I have to consider the surfaces I will be walking on. As a result there are only a few days I can wear stilettos. The places I go to now are NOT stiletto friendly, so I rarely wear them. But I will wear my suede JS knee high stilettos with short shorts in the summer. Now "that's a fierce fashion statement."😁

The last time I was in such an establishment was 1991, and the definition of "stripper heels" was quite different back then. Leave it to me to be more interested in the shoes than the other bits. What dancers wore at that time was what we would consider quite normal, almost boring shoes. Pretty much pumps with four inch heels. Platforms were not a thing at the time, at least not around here. Sometime between 1991 and now heel heights that seem normal increased dramatically, and platforms for exotic dancers got ridiculously thick. To me, "stripper heels" have never really been all that steep, because after all, one has to be able to at least pretend to dance in them, and for the better part of the entire night at that! I can give a very good example of where "the formula" doesn't work quite right. I have over the years owned a few different pairs of a Michael Kors shoe called Oksana. If you buy them in USW 8 1/2, you get 5 1/8" heels (with 1" platform). If you go up to size 9, the heels suddenly become 5 1/2". That's a full centimeter difference in half a size bigger. Because they are Kors less expensive line, they obviously didn't make a different heel for every single size. I'm guessing 8 1/2 was the cutoff for one length of heel, and 9 was the beginning of the next. ________________________ In other news, most of the reason that I have not been practicing toward the goal of 12 cm heels recently is because I have been working toward the goal of walking 60 high heeled miles in a single calendar month. I have come really close a couple of times, but I've never actually exceeded 60 until now. Here is a picture of me (wearing boots, no less) right after I finished walking the last high heeled mile. Although with the new system of proportional measurement, I'd technically have to call these mid-heels, as they are 1/8" (3 mm) short of being actually "high."

l am loving these Fernando Berlin boots.