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That means excluding Value Added Tax in the UK. i.e. If it is sold to a UK/EU resident the VAT is charged and the total cost is £160, but if shipped outside UK/EU then only £133.33 is charged. To ship to the USA would then attract whatever import duty/tax is levied by US Customs. Hope this helps.

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That means excluding Value Added Tax in the UK. i.e. If it is sold to a UK/EU resident the VAT is charged and the total cost is £160, but if shipped outside UK/EU then only £133.33 is charged. To ship to the USA would then attract whatever import duty/tax is levied by US Customs. Hope this helps.

 

Helps greatly! Its kinda sad that I can buy something from your country, that wasnt even made there, cheaper then you can.

 

VAT is currently 20% in Britain, so that's about right.

 

' Value Added Tax '.. 20%? Thats not ' right ', its wrong on sooo many levels.. Thievery at its finest. :(

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Well, you live in New York state do you not? And every time you go up to a till with something which says it costs, say, $1.99 you can't plop down two one-dollar bills in chance and expect a penny back. It's always more because of a hefty sales tax that doesn't even appear on the price tag. And for thievery on many levels do you not pay a state income tax?  Sussex, Kent, Devonshire, Yorkshire - counties in England do not, and cannot, levy income taxes. Your government's thievery exists on more levels than ours. 

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Well, you live in New York state do you not? And every time you go up to a till with something which says it costs, say, $1.99 you can't plop down two one-dollar bills in chance and expect a penny back. 

 

 

Yes I live in New York ( Unfortunately ). Hopefully not for too much longer. I need to ask what a ' till ' is. Do you mean a checkout or a cashier? 

 

 

 

 It's always more because of a hefty sales tax that doesn't even appear on the price tag. And for thievery on many levels do you not pay a state income tax?  Sussex, Kent, Devonshire, Yorkshire - counties in England do not, and cannot, levy income taxes. Your government's thievery exists on more levels than ours. 

 

 

Presently, sales tax in my county ( not country, county ) is at 8%. NOT 20%. Guns would come out if ANY politician even mentioned robbing us that bad!

 

As to whoms government robs whom more? I would beg to differ. You pay 10$+ USD for a single gallon of gasoline. 20% tax on other items ( like the one mentioned ) and a ' Carbon footprint ' tax on all kinds of things.

 

Usually, after all is said and done, the average working person looses about 10-15% of their total yearly income to governmental thievery where I live.

 

From digging through HM Treasury and HM Revenues and ' Customs ', you have 3 basic taxation rates and some variances amongst those 3 groups between : Dividend Income, Savings and Employment income. The BASIC rates for people on the bottom of the earnings pole was 20%. Whatever they put into savings for retirement or for a rainy day was taxed at 20% as well. If someone has any kind of stocks or earnings from outside ones job, that gets nailed for 10%. There *IS* a waiver for those 2 though for the ' basic ' group of people. The rest though.. NOPE!

 

 

Those are taxes for the ' common man '. Not Corporations or Businesses. Just running figures through my head, Im guessing about 35-40% of anyones income in the UK is just ' gone '. Im no ' Pro ' at taxation in your country, but from what I looked through on those websites, if someone sneezes in England, they will tax the expelled air, tax the enzymes released, tax per milli-meter the distance the booger traveled and then take a carbon-footprint on said booger to level a carbon tax on it of somekind. ;)

 

On a more serious note, the above doesnt even consider your National Medical insurance charges ( tax ), fuel for ones car, Residence or ' Domicile ' taxation, ' Counsel Taxation '. Theres even a ' London Congestion Charge '( Tax of some 15-20$USD a day! ).

 

We have ' toll booths ' in my area. If you use a road, it can cost from 15 cents to 7$ to travel across the whole state.

 

Its not cheap to live in the UK either! A relative visited your nation recently and was absolutely SHOCKED at the basic costs for foods, fuel, a car rental, hotel costs. She did state that the UK was better then most of the other countries ' over there '.

 

http://www.ford.co.uk/ConfigureyourCar/Fiesta/Titanium 22,500$ USD equivillent ( before adding taxes and such.. )

Same car in the US :

http://www.ford.com/cars/fiesta/trim/titaniumsedan/ 17,800. Add 8% to its cost..

 

I havent tried to look up or even ponder what a Sports Car, Luxury car or a truck would cost in the U.K.

 

I *DID* look into livestock however ( I know Dr. Shoe is into her horses and such.. )..

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-notice-70115-animals-and-animal-food/vat-notice-70115-animals-and-animal-food

 

They had to go as far as explaining VAT for pets and livestock? That picky? Even the food they consume is in a category of VAT! Its defined down to the differing breeds of foul! REALLY?!?! Seriously?!?!?

 

You stated the U.S. Governments Thievery was worse then the U.K.'s. I would beg to differ. NEITHER are what I would call ' moral ' or even effective/efficient, both are great examples of piss-poor management at all levels.

 

 

To stay with the topic of the thread though, I think its unfair that I can buy something from your country cheaper then you can. Its wrong.

 

Cheers! :)

-ILK

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I didn't say it was worse thievery, I said you had more levels of it 

 

And I certainly never said living in the UK was cheap! It ain't, as you correctly point out.

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Yes I live in New York ( Unfortunately ). Hopefully not for too much longer. I need to ask what a ' till ' is. Do you mean a checkout or a cashier? 

 

 

 

 

 

Presently, sales tax in my county ( not country, county ) is at 8%. NOT 20%. Guns would come out if ANY politician even mentioned robbing us that bad!

 

As to whoms government robs whom more? I would beg to differ. You pay 10$+ USD for a single gallon of gasoline. 20% tax on other items ( like the one mentioned ) and a ' Carbon footprint ' tax on all kinds of things.

 

Usually, after all is said and done, the average working person looses about 10-15% of their total yearly income to governmental thievery where I live.

 

From digging through HM Treasury and HM Revenues and ' Customs ', you have 3 basic taxation rates and some variances amongst those 3 groups between : Dividend Income, Savings and Employment income. The BASIC rates for people on the bottom of the earnings pole was 20%. Whatever they put into savings for retirement or for a rainy day was taxed at 20% as well. If someone has any kind of stocks or earnings from outside ones job, that gets nailed for 10%. There *IS* a waiver for those 2 though for the ' basic ' group of people. The rest though.. NOPE!

 

 

Those are taxes for the ' common man '. Not Corporations or Businesses. Just running figures through my head, Im guessing about 35-40% of anyones income in the UK is just ' gone '. Im no ' Pro ' at taxation in your country, but from what I looked through on those websites, if someone sneezes in England, they will tax the expelled air, tax the enzymes released, tax per milli-meter the distance the booger traveled and then take a carbon-footprint on said booger to level a carbon tax on it of somekind. ;)

 

On a more serious note, the above doesnt even consider your National Medical insurance charges ( tax ), fuel for ones car, Residence or ' Domicile ' taxation, ' Counsel Taxation '. Theres even a ' London Congestion Charge '( Tax of some 15-20$USD a day! ).

 

We have ' toll booths ' in my area. If you use a road, it can cost from 15 cents to 7$ to travel across the whole state.

 

Its not cheap to live in the UK either! A relative visited your nation recently and was absolutely SHOCKED at the basic costs for foods, fuel, a car rental, hotel costs. She did state that the UK was better then most of the other countries ' over there '.

 

http://www.ford.co.uk/ConfigureyourCar/Fiesta/Titanium 22,500$ USD equivillent ( before adding taxes and such.. )

Same car in the US :

http://www.ford.com/cars/fiesta/trim/titaniumsedan/ 17,800. Add 8% to its cost..

 

I havent tried to look up or even ponder what a Sports Car, Luxury car or a truck would cost in the U.K.

 

I *DID* look into livestock however ( I know Dr. Shoe is into her horses and such.. )..

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-notice-70115-animals-and-animal-food/vat-notice-70115-animals-and-animal-food

 

They had to go as far as explaining VAT for pets and livestock? That picky? Even the food they consume is in a category of VAT! Its defined down to the differing breeds of foul! REALLY?!?! Seriously?!?!?

 

You stated the U.S. Governments Thievery was worse then the U.K.'s. I would beg to differ. NEITHER are what I would call ' moral ' or even effective/efficient, both are great examples of piss-poor management at all levels.

 

 

To stay with the topic of the thread though, I think its unfair that I can buy something from your country cheaper then you can. Its wrong.

 

Cheers! :)

-ILK

It's not as bad as you might think. I pay £20.10 per week in income tax and national insurance as I just break the tax threshold. This is £10.50 NI and £9.60 Tax. Mind you I only earn £240.50 gross.

 

It's not true that we pay about $10 a gallon for petrol and it is an imperial gallon of 8 pints instead of 6 pints like in the US. The average is currently 125.9p a litre which when multiplied by 3.54609 comes to £4.46 a gallon (roughly 55p per pint) this is equivalent to about £3.35 per US gallon. This equates to about $5.41. (As at 19-10-14 or in the US 10-19-14). How much do you pay in the US? Go to New Rochelle on the corner of Main Street and Cliff St. and you will pay $3.15 and this appears to be the cheapest in New York. Yes, a bit cheaper but not massively so.

 

Moreover, we don't do the mileage that Americans do. We live an average of a mile and a half from the nearest supermarket. I don't live in a city but there are 3 supermarkets within a one mile radius and about 8 in 2 miles if you count Aldi and Lidl as supermarkets. We also have a number of convenience stores and specialists such as butchers and bakers at hand. Most of us drive no more than about 10 miles to get to work though I know a few who drive further. In addition to that our cars tend to be more economical than the classic American car, some doing in excess of 60 miles to the [imperial] gallon.

 

Yes, we may pay more for stuff but money tends to go a little further here than in the US I feel.

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I am not sure what he meant by six pints to a gallon, but our pints are bigger than yours - 20oz for the Imperial pint vs 16oz for yours in the US.

While we both have 8 pints to a gallon, our gallon is necessarily larger since it comprises 8 of our larger 20oz Imperial pints.

This difference does need to be taken into account if you are comparing petrol (gasoline) prices between our countries if you are using gallons as your measure.

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Dr. Shoe :

 

"it's not true that we pay about $10 a gallon for petrol and it is an imperial gallon of 8 pints instead of 6 pints like in the US. The average is currently 125.9p a litre which when multiplied by 3.54609 comes to £4.46 a gallon "

 

3.8 liters in a gallon. ;) . We bought some used equipment from the Canuckistanians up north and its all in Canadian measurements er.. metrics. Had to do up conversions for all the instrumentation/conversions. As shafted stated, 8 pints to a gallon here.

 

"Moreover, we don't do the mileage that Americans do. ".

 

I could believe such to be true. Your island is like 250 miles wide and 400 miles tall ( including scotland ).. something of that nature. Not really a large area by any means. Theres congregations of cities that have ' public transportation thats relied heavily upon. Theres a decent percentage of English whom dont own a car ( many dont even have a need for one ).

 

"How much do you pay in the US? "

 

Thats a question that has too many answers and is a HUGE problem IMO.

 

In " The peoples republik ", theres a 71 cent a gallon tax. Add to it 18 cents from the federal level and theres close to a dollar a gallon in tax. The State below us ( P.A. ) is much cheaper.

 

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/web_gas_taxes.php

 

Toss in Ethanol or going to an indian reservation and buying their fuel ( 2.80$/gal USD ).. 

 

We used about 35,000 gallons of diesel last year for the Quarry and farm. At 75cents a gallon tax to the ' peoples republik ', we went elsewhere and had a tanker type trailer imported from out of state. We also made quite a bit of our own fuel ( ethanol ) on the over-run of crops ( corn ).

 

I dont know if any of that is legal or feasible in the U.K. . We don have the means to be self sufficient if the effort is there ( for now ) until the present Administration appoints another Czar to hammer us even more.

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An Imperial gallon (UK) is 4.546 litres, unlike your 3.8 litre gallon in the US.

 

One imperial gallon is approximately equal to 1.201 U.S. gallons OR 1 US gallon = 0.833 Imperial gallons. Considering currency exchanges, your paying more per unit by any measure.

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I like the VAT tax, wish we had it here….  sf

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I like the VAT tax, wish we had it here….  sf

 

Why is that? 

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An Imperial gallon (UK) is 4.546 litres, unlike your 3.8 litre gallon in the US.

 

 

One imperial gallon is approximately equal to 1.201 U.S. gallons OR 1 US gallon = 0.833 Imperial gallons. Considering currency exchanges, your paying more per unit by any measure.

Well if we're going to do this, let's at least make the maths (math) simple.  US or UK gallon = 8 pints.  US pint 16 fluid ounces.  UK pint 20 fluid ounces.  Hence US gallon = 80% UK gallon.  Historically the 16oz pint was a wine pint, the 20oz pint an ale pint.  That's why wine bottles are that size.  32fl oz was 70cl, so a bottle was a quart.  Of course, now they're 750ml.

 

Of course, my children deal in metric, but if I ask the Turkish chappie for 2oz of my favourite snout he gives me 50g.  Don't you feel that 2oz is a much more human measure than 50g? human?

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A US gallon equals 6.4 imperial pints... (8X16/20)

 

That is what I meant except that I thought it meant that the US gallon held 6 US pints of 20floz.

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When I first saw this I thought it said "ExLax."  Never mind…..  

"Why should girls have all the fun!!"

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When I first saw this I thought it said "ExLax."  Never mind…..  

 

Something the OP certainly doesn't need, at least for verbal treatment.   :cheeky:

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