flavio Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Well, I use to open doors for my wife and similarly to any lady I can. I do it specially in the car. Car's doors are usually too heavy. Another things I use to do: - open and hold doors for any person at the moment (doesn't apply for car's doors); - give the preference to ladies when stepping in and out of buses and trains; - go upstairs behind the lady and in front of her when downstairs, it's this way to protect her in case of falling; - stand up in the table if a lady stands up or arrives; - stand up to compliment any person that arrives; - offer the lighter for the ladie's cigarrete (I do smoke and don't care if a lady smokes); - don't smoke in closed places; - don't post in the girl's forum; - etc... I think all of the above are examples of beeing a gentleman and it's part of me. I didn't grew up in such environments but I like to be this way. I also think that this thread should be moved to general forum, it's not shoe related. Flavio - Brazilian heel lover, now in France.
Guy N. Heels Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Well, I use to open doors for my wife and similarly to any lady I can. I do it specially in the car. Car's doors are usually too heavy. Another things I use to do: - open and hold doors for any person at the moment (doesn't apply for car's doors); - give the preference to ladies when stepping in and out of buses and trains; - go upstairs behind the lady and in front of her when downstairs, it's this way to protect her in case of falling; - stand up in the table if a lady stands up or arrives; - stand up to compliment any person that arrives; - offer the lighter for the ladie's cigarrete (I do smoke and don't care if a lady smokes); - don't smoke in closed places; - don't post in the girl's forum; - etc... I think all of the above are examples of beeing a gentleman and it's part of me. I didn't grew up in such environments but I like to be this way. I also think that this thread should be moved to general forum, it's not shoe related. I was about to ask from which military academy you graduated when I noticed it was you, Flavio. But yes, in the US military academies they are trained to become both officers as well as gentlemen. Therefore rising at the table when someone arrives or departs, holding doors, walking on the curb side when escorting a lady on the street, and all that sort of thing is de rigur, and such behavior is strictly enforced for a full four years at each of these schools as well as the hundreds of preparatory schools that many of these future officers might attend. But beyond that, it's just plain courtesy. BTW, someone earlier mentioned wearing headgear indoors. To the trained military mind, that is a signal that the one wearing headgear is under arms and is to be treated as such, otherwise it's just plain rude unless there is a specific medical problem that must be dealt with. Keep on stepping, Guy N. Heels
Bubba136 Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Correct in your observation that it seems rudeness is the way to act these days. An even more irksome practice than not holding doors for women is that of people that won't wait for others to get off of an elevator before they try to get on. Most of the time you have to fight your way through the rush and hope you can get off before the car resumes it's journey. I've actually pushed people out of my way when the've been so rude as to try to walk over me while I was trying to exit. Being mentally comfortable in your own mind is the key to wearing heels in public.
maninkirt Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Hello flavio Oh that´s nice. You´re a real gentleman. You´re doing just such little nice sweet things women appreciate very much. Me too I appreciate men doing such thing that you mentioned for me too. Like giving me preference when stepping in or out of buses or trains. Or giving up their sets for me. One gentle man did just that for me on my way home on the bus just resently. Yes it was a very nice thing to do. I smiled to him, saying "Thank you". He acted like a real gentleman. He was smiling back. It was nice of him letting me sit down, so I didn´t have to stand all the way home in my high heels and my two big carry-away-bags. Must say my heels wasn´t exactly the shoe to have for standing all the way home and my carry-away-bags was quite hevy too. It also very nice when my colleagues, as you´re doing flavio, they are standing up at the table when I´m coming or my female colleagues coming. Letting us sit down before the guys. Or helping me off with my coat then helping me get it back on when we´re out lunching or something. I like this kind of sweet nice things guys are doing for me.
eclextix Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Boys!!! Heels or no heels get the door lady at all times even if it might be awkward. Please don't "drop" the door on the gentelman coming in behind you either. Common courtesy!
SNYer Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Here I am with a thread for you guys. I want to know, is it becoming old fashioned to open or hold a door open for women these days???! I was raised to be a gentleman to the ladies. I always open the door and will pull out a chair when the situation presents itself.
johnieheel Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Hello flavio I like this kind of sweet nice things guys are doing for me. But your a guy. real men wear heels
Thighboots2 Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Flavio, Bravo, I couldn't have put it better myself. Sadly it is all too common these days that these little things are overlooked and somehow frowned upon by the great unwashed. Standards of behaviour are slipping all too often. Simon Are you confusing me with someone who gives a damn?
Guy N. Heels Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Flavio, Bravo, I couldn't have put it better myself. Sadly it is all too common these days that these little things are overlooked and somehow frowned upon by the great unwashed. Standards of behaviour are slipping all too often. Simon The great unwashed masses?!? Now there's one I haven't heard in quite some time. I LOVE IT!!! Keep on stepping, Guy N. Heels
Smitty55 Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Some of it comes from the women who have the attitude that they can do it themselves. I will also open/hold the door for another, and I used to do it all the time--but you never know when you'll get the snide remarks from a woman. Something like "What? Do you think I'm helpless?" or "You know, I'm perfectly capable...." Although those women are in the minority, they spoil it for everybody. You never can tell when you'll get a remark like that. I still remember the day at a mall when I hurried a bit to open the door for two women going into the building ahead of me and my wife--just to be polite. One of them turned to me and said "You know, I can open doors for myself." I just stood there and let them go in, then remarked to my wife "Maybe I should have let the door go when she was part way through it". It made them turn and stare when she said "You should have PUSHED it closed on them!"
radiodave Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 I'll say that my folks raised me to get the door for a lady, to walk on the street side of a sidewalk (shielding the lady from a splash or accident), to help a lady with her coat, and so on. I was pleasantly surprised a while back when I saw a younger couple (teenage I'm guessing) walking back to their car, and the guy opened the passenger door for his lady, even though they weren't on any kind of formal date. I thought his folks raised him well if he did that all the time. I think I surprised my ex-wife the first time I did that for her.
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