Van Posted December 9, 2002 Posted December 9, 2002 Hi Guys, just passing thru', i've been (and still am) very busy professionally these last months so i haven't contributed much. Anyhow, have a look at this picture : http://photoparismode.free.fr/homme/0207/Gaultier/pages/6.htm and let me know what you think. Cheers Vanessa
Bubba136 Posted December 9, 2002 Posted December 9, 2002 I don't know. Society might be more likely to accept these styles for men than seeing a man dressed as a man wearing higher heels. This style isn't for me, however. Being mentally comfortable in your own mind is the key to wearing heels in public.
nicjasno Posted December 9, 2002 Posted December 9, 2002 Yup, not my style either. But Gaultier made always strange creations... www.nicjasno.com
Dr. Shoe Posted December 9, 2002 Posted December 9, 2002 I think he's lost it! He was always very innovative and pioneered skirts for men with his mini-kilt without which 21st Century Kilts wouldn't have even been thought of. But quite frankly, the skirts over trousers idea is old hat. Even topman were selling skirts a couple of years back... Flipflops: old idea even the resurgence is a couple of seasons gone... Apart from the hels in pictures 2 & 6 there was nothing there to excite me at all! Graduate footwear designer able to advise and assist on modification and shoe making projects.
Nikk Posted December 9, 2002 Posted December 9, 2002 I agree. JPG can usually be relied on to be provocative, and perhaps someone will take an element of this and build upon it, but IMHO this is neither one thing nor the other and I think it looks daft as it is.
Slim Posted December 9, 2002 Posted December 9, 2002 Now don't get me wrong, the heels I like, its the skirt and maybe the top I don't care for. With out the skirt it might be ok.
Stephen Posted December 9, 2002 Posted December 9, 2002 Overall a pretty awful outfit in my opinion. The skirt might not look so bad if it was black. The tie, however, is unforgivable. Ties are rather pointless items anyway, but without a shirt they look even more ridiculous than they usually do. Thats what I think anyway. Nothing much wrong with the trousers and the boots though.
NH Heels Posted December 9, 2002 Posted December 9, 2002 A little over the top as far as I'm concerned. Certainly not my style. Anything that helps people to view heels on men is welcomed, but I don't know if this would be a help or a deterent.
Texboots Posted December 10, 2002 Posted December 10, 2002 I think that Jean Paul is always pushing the envelop and encouraging men to explore different approaches to fashion. I appreciate his use of heels on his male models, including his collection of a couple of years ago where the guys wore leopard print boots with tall black heels. I'm not going to show up at the office tomorrow in a vest and tie sans shirt, but some guys can pull that off, and more power to them!
pieman3141 Posted December 10, 2002 Posted December 10, 2002 No thanks. Skirts aren't for me. I prefer classc shoes...
Yamyam Posted December 10, 2002 Posted December 10, 2002 For me, 6 and less so 2 work okay. Yes, they're odd, but isn't that what catwalk fashion is all about? Must admit, for 6, I might do something similar for a party or something. But I don't think I'd include the white skirt. Nice boots, tho'. Obsessed is such a strong word. I prefer to think of myself as "differently enthusiastic"
Lee Posted December 10, 2002 Posted December 10, 2002 I agree with most you. A bit over the top with the skirt over the pants. But the shoes... Not bad.
azraelle Posted December 11, 2002 Posted December 11, 2002 Now if we could get Donna Karan to bring back her men's bodysuit (which bombed back in the early 90's)... BTW http://www.bodysuits.com has been selling a nylon/lycra t-shirt style bodysuit for men for the past 6 months or so. "All that you can decide, is what to do with the time that is given you."--Gandalf, "Life is not tried, it is merely survived -If you're standing outside the fire."--Garth Brooks
spiky heels Posted December 11, 2002 Posted December 11, 2002 The heels are ok but coupled with the rest of the outfits I don't like. I would have preffered the emphasis of the design to be on the heels with more classic male clothes. I suppose because I feel that would have been more likely to get acceptance from the public at large. However thats not what fashion design is about, at least not at the shows they have always been at the more extreme end of things with fashions toning down for the high street. So lets hope it starts a fashion for heels. Although overall the look dosn't appeal I'm glad that he has challenged convention the way he has.
Brandy Posted December 15, 2002 Posted December 15, 2002 Hi there I guess I agree with everyone else. Bits and pieces look good but the whole thing looks confused. Looks like he raided his girlfriends closet for halloween. Mind you I like the skirt and shoes/boots but with that top and pants. Here I am a fashion critric my ex would have a heart attack if she knew!! -- Brandy
hoverfly Posted December 15, 2002 Posted December 15, 2002 What the F@#$!!!! No way in heck you catch me in that out fit!! Does not seam to be happy to be wearing it. Hello,  my name is Hoverfly. I’m a high heel addict…. Weeeeeeeeeee!  👠1998 to 2022!
Highluc Posted December 16, 2002 Posted December 16, 2002 Lots of conservative people on this board. If you want the others to accept your choice for heels, be prepared to have an open mind to whatever their choice is. Freestylers will rule sooner or later (I hope). Be youself, enjoy any footwear you like and don't care about what others think about it, it's your life, not theirs. Greetings from Laurence
hoverfly Posted December 16, 2002 Posted December 16, 2002 What is put on the runway is way to extreme for the general public. What I saw was what the first thing that came across my mind. Call me conservative "just a little" But that is not my Freestyle. The boot and pants are fine, but the shirt/skirt combo eaaaaaaaah. Personally I would like some thing done with chunky, semi chunky heels introduced to the public first. I see the majority of people accepting men in chunky heels then stilettos first. My feeling in introducing skirts to men is to keep them long. Hello,  my name is Hoverfly. I’m a high heel addict…. Weeeeeeeeeee!  👠1998 to 2022!
Brandy Posted December 16, 2002 Posted December 16, 2002 Okay, go back and look at those pictures again. There are seven pics, 3 with the skirt pants combo. Out of the seven pic's five have sandal's the remaining two with shoes are heels, the heels are stellitos. Okay, were fashion critic's but at least he's trying, actually I'd wear the skirts if they were for sale. They seem to be black, tan and white. -- Brandy
Julietta Posted December 16, 2002 Posted December 16, 2002 I quite like the look and this one (apart from the red eye make up) too http://photoparismode.free.fr/homme/0207/Gaultier/pages/2.htm Let calm be widespread May the sea glisten like greenstone And the shimmer of summer Dance across your pathway "Communication is a two way thing"
Brandy Posted December 17, 2002 Posted December 17, 2002 I took this question to Chris Atrium and ask their opinion. This is a board for men who like to wear skirts as men. http://www.cgrevstad.com/cgi-bin/atrium.pl?#30380 The opinions are varied but universial thumbs down on the pants. I suspect the reason for the pants, to kinda still suggest it's a male thing. A kilt is not worn with pants. (period). The kilt/skirts would probably look good with tradition tights/pantyhose but that is to radical for JPG to suggest hence the pants. -- Brandy How many post do I need to get rid of those loafers?
Brandy Posted December 17, 2002 Posted December 17, 2002 Check this picture: http://photoparismode.free.fr/homme/0207/Gaultier/pages/3.htm The guy has his pants open with his shirt tucked into his pantyhose!! Well that's what it looks like to me. Goes along with the rest of these off beat fashions. -- Brandy
Van Posted December 18, 2002 Author Posted December 18, 2002 I agree with you Brandy, With his thongs, open shirt and capri pants, he looks like coolie that can be encounter in any Asian port pushing a wheelbarrow or pulling a cart. Never thought them to be at the avant-guarde of fashion He seems to be wearing some short of cut-foot pantyhose. I don't see the use . Vanessa
Bubba136 Posted December 18, 2002 Posted December 18, 2002 Either that or he cut the feet off the legs of the pantyhose. Like you, however, I don't see much utility to them. Being mentally comfortable in your own mind is the key to wearing heels in public.
azraelle Posted December 18, 2002 Posted December 18, 2002 UTILITY??!! This is a board devoted to wearing high heels and you grouse about Gaulthier's offbeat fashions as lacking UTILITY?? :drinking: The whole point of fashion, especially women's fashion, is to go beyond utility. Otherwise we all would still be wearing buckskins and moccassins! "All that you can decide, is what to do with the time that is given you."--Gandalf, "Life is not tried, it is merely survived -If you're standing outside the fire."--Garth Brooks
Van Posted December 19, 2002 Author Posted December 19, 2002 You're right Azraelle, Gaulthier should not be studied in an utilitarian perspective, still from a purely esthetic perspective I'm still not convinced by the cut off pantyhose and thongs. I'm not Gaulthier but i feel i have better dressing sense (and so do you ...) Cheers Vanessa
Bubba136 Posted December 19, 2002 Posted December 19, 2002 Hmmmm! I guess I must have missed something! All this while I thought this board was a place where anyone could freely express an opinion. And, my post expresses mine. If I failed to make myself clear.......I don't like the look and I wouldn't wear it. Now, if you like that look and want to wear it, knock yourself out! I don't care. However, like I said -- I don't like it --- And, Azrealle, that's my opinion. Being mentally comfortable in your own mind is the key to wearing heels in public.
azraelle Posted December 20, 2002 Posted December 20, 2002 Didn't mean to imply that I thought his creations were the "cat's meow"! I just thought that criticizing Gaulthier for lacking utility was a bit like the pot calling the kettle black, if you get my drift. I've always been partial to Versace, Dolce&Gabbana, Anne Kleine, and Donna Karan myself. "All that you can decide, is what to do with the time that is given you."--Gandalf, "Life is not tried, it is merely survived -If you're standing outside the fire."--Garth Brooks
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