jmc

That bag has the shoes my GF wore in it and the boots are on her feet as so are mine.LOL

Sweet!

Well, I don't see a lot of wobble. But, like Guy N. Heels I do see a lot of camera shake so it is hard to tell. I also see a couple of shopping bags, at least one of which bears the label "Bakers" and looks like it contains a largish box. Are those new boots?

8-tracks -- oh, yeah! Punch cards and FORTRAN -- oh, yeah! I got one better -- reel-to-reel tapes! Welcome to the forum, dubheii and elliesboy!

RPMindy -- it sounds like you know your lady very well. You know what she looks for and likes in shoes and you are fortunate to have each other in your lives. May you continue to grow closer.

I have seen them in the crafts section at most Wal-Marts. If that fails, try a craft supply store such as Ben Franklin or a Jo-Ann Fabrics.

Doesn't she get some funny looks in that red rectangle with the blue text?

Please check your link -- that hosting service (Web2k.co.uk) states that it serves eBay only. The picture is not visible here. It is better to use Photobucket, Imageshack, Flickr or some other photo hosting service because those links don't expire over time. More information is available here: http://www.hhplace.org/discuss/technical_support_requests_proposals/6312-inserting_images_into_messages.html.

. . . [snip] please give me a break with a few of the shoes that are being posted here . . . [/snip]

Well kneehighs' offering in that last post is certainly a tremendous improvement!

. . . [snip] every now and then I notice a guy take a look at them, kinda like they're thinking they're a bit pointy [/snip] . . .

They are probably thinking "I like those - wonder where he got them?" They look so much like regular cowboy boots I doubt if anybody will notice there is anything different. Only you know the truth!

There is a poll here: http://www.hhplace.org/discuss/everybody/6007-minimum_height_high_heel.html

on this very question. If I remember right, the numbers came out to 3.5" -- anything less than that is not "high" by the working definition of this board.

I cannot believe that any feminine shoe would qualify as a high heel. Flats are not high heels by definition. I don't think anybody around here would call a thick-soled platform a "high heel" either unless there was some significant rise (like about 3.5") from the toe to the heel.

I know there are a lot of old threads discussing this question.

. . . [snip] Shouldn't there be at a least minimum heel height for anyone to claim to talk about high heels? [/snip] . . .

Yeah, that's come up once or twice -- there is a poll on that subject: http://www.hhplace.org/discuss/everybody/6007-minimum_height_high_heel.html

I think the numbers came out to 3.5".

And there was a poll about how to make the determination: http://www.hhplace.org/discuss/everybody/5929-how_high_high.html?highlight=how+high+is+high

I am certain the subject has been addressed in a number of the older threads too.

Then, on the subject of ugly shoes (only if you dare!): http://www.hhplace.org/discuss/everybody/1992-your_worst_idea_ladys_shoe_fun_pics_please.html

(Un-) Fortunately, most of the picture links have died. This thread was hilarious in its day.

Welcome aboard, Higharch! This is the place to be if you're into heels!

might sound silly but is there a difference between like indoor carpet and out like concrete ive only ever worn quite high heels indoors

Oh, definitely there is a difference.

First, the sound! On concrete, tile or hardwood it's deafening if your heels are hard plastic or metal. You'll swear every eye within ten blocks is looking at you -- especially in an enclosed area where the sound echoes. If you go with a broader heel, with a softer "heel tip" (the part that actually touches the floor) you can cut down the volume. (Be aware, most of us love that sound and I'm liable to take some flames for suggesting a method of reducing its volume.)

Second, a very high heel might actually feel a bit higher on a hard surface. This is because the heel will sink into carpeting and the toe will rest higher than on the hard surface -- a little bit like wearing a mini-platform.

Third, a lot of the soles on dress shoes are very smooth -- even slick. On carpet they will slip quite a bit while on concrete they will slip a lot less. In fact, walking on concrete -- especially if there is a little bit of sand on top of it -- will roughen up the soles amd make them less slippery on carpet.

Stilettos, especially, don't work very well on soft ground. The heels sink in and get damaged easily. Cobblestones or uneven surfaces are a challenge too -- you really need to watch your step (and I do mean that literally).

JeffB -- you are an inspiration to all of us!

i don't want look to amateurish in heels out doors

Best thing to do (as hoverfly said earlier) is start out with a lower heel and work your way up. If you start with a 5-inch heel you will wobble, tire quickly and probably give it up. But a 2.5 - 3" heel is not all that difficult to manage. Wear them for a few days and get used to them -- as a female you do not have to worry about being "caught" in heels. When you get to the point where you no longer think about your heels, they have become second nature and you can go up a half-inch or so. As heels get higher, incremental height makes a lot more difference. The difference between a 2.5 and a 3" heel is barely noticeable. The difference between a 5 inch and a 5.5 is night and day.

Also, heel height depends on shoe size. A 4 inch heel on a size 6 (US) is very high, while a 4 inch heel on a size 12 (US) is modestly high. A 4 inch heel in a size 6 is more like a 5.5 or 6 inch heel on a size 12.

Listen to your body, listen to your feet and ankles. If you get uncomfortable, change to a lower heel. Regardless of how some of us sound here, very few people actually wear heels all the time.

You don't say what style you have in mind -- a boot or a shoe. I find that a wedge - type heel seems to be more inconspicuous. I wore these most of the day yesterday, making a bunch of stops all over town and nobody batted an eyelash: The heels measure 3 5/8" (9.2 cm) up the back on my size 12's. The brand is "Fitzwell", the style is "Fallara" and the source is Zappos. They are made for a wide calf and do not appear to be available in a standard calf. As a result they are loose around my legs, but I like them anyway.

. . . Elsewhere you mention courts with locking straps, here you mention doing this "for" your husband. That combination could mean a number of things, from safe sane+consensual to anything but! Before starting down that road, are you *absolutely sure* you're a) happy with where it'll lead and/or happy you can get off it if it turns in a direction you're not comfortable with? If not, I'd be very cautious about starting down that road.

. . .

Yes, most definitely -- If you are wearing heels because you want to, because they make you feel in a way you like or want, for yourself -- then that's a positive reason to do it. If you are doing it strictly to please somebody else, even somebody as close as your husband, then that is a danger sign. The locking heels veer into the bondage area -- if you are into that then that's OK. If you are not into that then you and your husband need to have a serious discussion.

You are part of this situation too. Your comfort level, wants and desires are every bit as important as his.

. . . People enter into a relationship with the idea they'll change the "other" partner. Again, on another post on another thread I used the words, "of the two of us there is only one I can change". One dozen words that carry a message with incredible truth. In any couples relationship where signficant differences arise after time, one of or both of the individuals misrepresented themselves to the other. Inevitably this comes around to another issue, that of honesty. Again, please don't misunderstand, this is not gender specific. I don't care who or what the situation, I simply don't accept "excuses" as "reasons" for behavior. . . .

From my experience, in a truly healthy relationship between a man and a woman, both partners change -- and they do so from within. They grow together -- out of a mutual love and respect for each other. This is why people who have been married for many years get to the point where they can finish each others sentences. They are so "in tune" with each others' thought processes that they instinctively know what the other is thinking. Neither individual "runs" the relationship solely, everything is a cooperative effort.

Ironically -- again from my experience -- any relationship that begins with the concept of changing the other person in some fundamental way is most likely doomed to failure. This is because the partner who has to change will grow to resent the power the other has over the relationship and will begin to think it is unfair.

That said, this "permanent high-heel" idea recurs frequently around here and it remains disturbing to me. I certainly would not enforce it on anybody and in my mind it is not worthwhile -- I would categorize it as a "voluntary disability". (If it is not completely voluntary -- on the part of the person being heeled -- then by my comments above this is an unhealthy relationship and probably should be ended.) Some people seem to get into this "permanent high heel" thing (although I suspect --hope?-- a lot of it is fantasy) and it will probably forever be one of those many things I cannot fully understand.

Looks like we've got some Star Trek fans here . . . Cool! (I guess I'm not really surprised )

Ohhh Yeahhh! Those were sweet boots! Unfortunately I do not know where they came from. We can only hope the fickle winds of fashion will someday time-warp them back from the sixties.

Malls have high security and I have even been told by a number of women in shoe stores that it's about the most safe place to wear your heels.

Shopping malls are pretty safe from the standpoint of being assaulted -- either physically or verbally. Being places of business, they well recognize that any feeling of less than complete safety tends to drive customers (and sales) away. So seciruty tends to be pretty tight.

My biggest worry about heeling in the local shopping mall would be running into somebody I know and having to explain my choice of footwear. For now I just stay with something conservative enough that it will not attract attention, or go to a mall far enough away that I am not likely to encounter somebody I know.

I have had such meandering conversations include an analysis of "how we got here" -- sometimes more than once. That, of course, is not necessary here because all of our "tracks" persist in the older portions of the thread involved.

I'm finding it very interesting that men and women from all over the world who's families have faught against one another for years are getting together HERE and discussing HEELS. Ironic isn't it? Maby we have something here. What do you think?

Just goes to show that deep down we are not all that different. We all have basic human desires -- a little bit of dignity, some love and respect, our basic needs (shelter, food, etc.) and sometimes something interesting to spice up our lives (like, oh -- maybe heels! :-)

I find that the biggest problem of buying shoes and boots over the internet is that of sizing and fit, since you can't really try them on before buying them. But once you start getting experience with how different manufacturers build their shoes, then you can start to pick up on trends. Then you can start to make some educated guesses about what styles, sizes and manufacturers work best for your feet. . .

Most definitely true! Add to this the plethora of different sizing systems and each manufacturer's own interpretation of them and you end up with the gamble we all know as the sizing dilemma. Sometimes even different styles from the same manufacturer show considerable variation in size.

Welcome aboard, wood&metal ! -- from another former lurker. We all love heels here and a great many of us are into boots -- I count myself in that category.

Angie, If it helps any, I purchased a pair of boots from you on eBay and I was completely happy with them. Still am, in fact. Your service and the way you handled the transaction was top-notch and I felt your description was highly accurate. Unfortunately, except in very rare cases, you don't hear from happy customers -- usually your best hope is a return sale. eBay does provide the feedback system but a short 80-character comment does not provide a lot of communication. The unhappy customers are the ones who make the most noise. I'd deal with you again. --JMC