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There are lots of great leather hh pumps available at Zappos for less than $100...

I think the snap straps would get lost beneath the jeans, as would the heel, but I agree that they should offer it in a more rugged leather, such as something unshined.

Wow, talk about good vibes. What a really neat experience. I can see why you had to wait until your divorce before you could tell it.

The funny thing is that while my wife supported it for the first couple years (I think she thought it was novel), she rebelled against my wearing heels the last, then finally began calling me "gay," even though I through out everything that wasn't plane-jane chunk low heel.

Yet I never cheated on her, even in my heart. She really hasn't a clue as to what she's lost.

Fortunately, my girlfriend, a far more stable individual, accepts me for who I am, heels, skirts, and all, and we're able to actually discuss contentious issues. How's that for "novel?" I call it "neat!" And very near and endearing to my heart.

I was "caught" by a neighbor one night while taking out the trash in my full-length denim skirt and 4" heeled boots. He pulled up just as I reached the trash cans. I'm sure he noticed, at least the skirt, due to the streetlight, but he didn't say a thing other than, "How've you been," exchanging a couple of comments, then, "good talking with you." We've talked since and he's been normally neighborly, so I don't think it was an issue with him.

Ouch - sorry to hear of your misadventure.

What a parody of pain! Too bad it wasn't a 6" nail sunk two inches deep - that would have been a clincher... Reminds me of a pair of cartoon heels I saw once, with the heel so high it no longer existed - just the toe, tucked vertically under the ankle.

Hello there

I have a friend at school with tiny size 3 UK size feet who can walk in 4 inch heels rather well, her boyfriend doesnt understand why she carries flip flops in her bag and changes into them when she is tired.

Her boyfriend has a size 9 UK shoe size, is there any way of working out the ratio of a size 3 shoe with a 4 inch heel.

In other words, what size heel would a size 9 shoe need to feel the same?

I hope to hear some scientific answers lol

Sure. Go here: http://www.payless.com/en-US/Consumer/CustomerSupport/Finding_Size.htm#measurementtips

Then, divide 4 inches by her foot length, and multiply it by his to derive an equivalent heel height.

Oversized avatars waste boardspace, especially with one-line responses. Better to just keep them within bounds. Good suggestion, Scotty, on using software to resize. I think most Gif-enabled software can resize animated gifs.

Some of the models have apparently ice-skated before, and some have not. It's all about centering. You do, you don't fall. You don't/can't, then you fall. Same with rollerblading.

Meanwhile, the moron keeps playing video games...

My theory is that accountants and lawyers take care of one another. Most legislators are lawyers, and they pass laws that keep the accountants employed. As a result, accountants give lawyers (some of their best customers) regular breaks. The rest of us, however, pay both lawyers and accountants through the nose.

One thing that may not have been mentioned about the weight - walking is a great way to lose weight! And, so long as the heels are comfortable for walking, it's fun, too.

Hey, Scotty - Good advice. My current GF and I are going through similar things. She understands my desires, but she also has her limits. It's a give and take relationship, as are common to most.

Sorry, I have no interest in wearing frumpy clothing or tone down who I am, just to further some "cause". I'm not going to wait to dress how I want because society isn't OK with it at the moment. If I wait for social acceptance for what I want to wear, I'll be dead, and bitter at that.

More power to you, Trolldeg - be dead and bitter.

I'd rather you be alive and well if we ever meet, though... Would definately be nice to say, "Hi!"

I actually run four machines at home, Nigel - one Windows XP Pro, one Linux, one Unix, and one Mac. For various purposes and network security testing/monitoring. It's my job. As far as your comment, "you do need to spend extra money to make XP work as it should..." Not a thin dime! And it works exceptionally well when combined with a NAT firewall and Norton Antivirus. If you think that's spending extra, think again. I can hack into any Linux system on the planet. I do it for a living (but only under governmental direction). Appropriately configured systems as mentioned above are exceptinally more difficult to hack than Linux systems out of the box. Cheers!

Sounds to me like you need to get a new pair of shoes that are both well-heeled, and conformal so as not to upset the missus.

According to your calculations, I'm less than 15 stone, and have little problem wearing heels. I simply prefer a lower heel.

Awesome thigh-highs, Trolldeg! Have you ever considered a manicure and loosing the gloves?

The tan pair look positively alien!

I will readily admit that there is something to be said for the proportion method discussed.

Thank you. If you can understand it, so can most Please help ensure this heads towards an international standard.

Thank you!

I've encountered absolutely zero problems while wearing skirts or heels (despite a few jeers). That's not the issue. The issue is that broad public reaction threatens to thwart societal acceptance of men wearing either skirts or heels. The only way to combat this is by gradual change. Rabid change will backfire. It always has. It always will. This isn't controversty. It's human nature. Either abide by it, or suffer the consequences. And please, consider the source of this information! I'm no government informer - I'm simply one of you. Jiminy! Look at my avatar! Folks - I can't get there from here, and I live in a very progressive country! Please don't counter my comments. Instead, take them at their face value, and act accordingly.

Let's face it, folks: While Jean Paul pushed the envelope in some respects, he pushed so hard that the public backlash said "NO!" This couldn't be more clear than in his most recent efforts, accounted for here: http://men.style.com/fashion/collections/S2007MEN/review/JPGMEN

Gradual change has always been accepted by humanity, while radical change has always been rejected.

This is simple human nature.

Anyone who fails to understand this will do more harm than good to the cause of everyone (particularly men) interested in wearing clothing that deviates from the norm to any substantial degree, regardless of whether it's heels of any size (no/low/mid/high) but of men wearing women's shoes, women's clothing (skirts, dresses, blouses, underclothes, etc.).

I think we've killed the fact that women can buy anything they want in the men's section (except perhaps a jock strap) and parade downtown wearing that without anyone noticing.

I'd like to get to that point with respect to men wearing women's fashion. No, not necessarily the frilly fru-fru stuff (although if that floats your boat...), but men, appearing as men (not the CD/TV/TS/TG crowd appearing as women), dressed in what I would consider masculine styled clothes.

I'm simply talking about a man wearing heels and/or a skirt. I wear heels out, and get nary a whimper. I wear a skirt, and provided it's masculine enough, I get a few harmless questions and the occasional attaboy. I wear heels and a skirt out while otherwise dressed as a man, and regardless of how masculine the heels and skirt may be, it's time for the wolf-whistles, or at least the jeers, fingers pointed in my direction, and suaural comments made about my attire.

Case in point: Last night.

I wore a pitch-dark, black denim ankle-length skirt with a zip fly that opens to the right. I wore my men's Levi's belt. I also wore my black, long-sleeved Pierre Cardin shirt and my black leather 4-inch stack heeled knee-high boots. Although a few women asked me about the skirt, I did got jeers from some of the guys at the pub. After the first couple of seconds, though, everyone went back to talking to whoever they were talking to.

When I've worn the same outfit in the past, but without the heeled boots, it's sort of a killer and many women have been interested.

When I wear the boots with with black denim jeans instead of the skirt, no one bats an eye.

Think about it - the only difference between my skirt and my jeans is the number of openings at the bottom. That's it. They're even made by the same manufacturer, have the same number and style of pockets, belt loops, the type of top button, even the zippers are identical. Everything's identical except one has two openings while the other has one. If I want to avoid the jeers, I can wear the jeans with heels, or the skirt without heels. But if I wear the skirt with heels, I get jeers.

So, here's what's currently socially acceptable for men to wear in my neck of the woods:

1. Heels, provided they're discrete, are ok.

2. A skirt, provided it's discrete, is ok.

3. The combination, regardless of how discrete it might be, is still not ok.

The old "wear whatever you like" is personal liberty at it's best, but societal responsibility at it's worst. There should be a balance between "Just do it!" and ensuring (perhaps even furthering) that others will continue to have the opportunity to wear whatever they want to wear.

It takes time to change society's mind, and two things must occur for that to be effective:

1. Consistant exposure (wear 'em if you got 'em)

2. Discrete exposure (save the costumes for Mardi Gras)

I'll not go out in both heels and a skirt for quite some time, but I'll continue to frequent the regular watering holes wearing one or the other. Hopefully, in time, the collective attitudes will mellow and I'll be able to appear wearing whatever I choose.

If you're the type who'd prefer to "do whatever comes to mind," I would ask you to reconsider and consider the rest of us who'd like to push the envelope, but in a way which will create a lasting/permanent acceptance, rather than a jeering backlash.

Slow and steady will accomplish most people's agenda, while a hurried approach will only accomplish the agenda of the hurried.

By the way, I have to complement all of you who attended the London Heel-Meet, as to the last man, your style very precisely balanced men's heel wear with conservatism. Thank you!

If they're decent-looking jeans

Mine are Levis Relaxed Straights.

Yes, I thin they're decent!

I've a good friend of mine who turns 88 this year. He walked 3 miles every other day with his wife, and remains in excellent shape. That's something you can do in the right pair of heels!