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Well done! I’m curious to hear what they’re like. As I say, they look really nice! And, yes, a challenge!

Alright I did it, I bought them 🙂 I just couldn't resist and am so curious how they turn out to be. Somehow they'll be manageable, even if it is the beginning of the next challenge 😂

Let us know what you decide! Those are really nice

Thanks @mlroseplant for your detailed analysis! The Hot Chicks also make make about a 90 degree angle of the foot, that's a good indicator. I also recognized the sligthly bent knee on the photos. I'm sure that I'd be able to straighten my knees in them, only walking flawlessly might be a different thing... Regarding the calves, I apparently have a very standard size, because I almost always had a good fit in any pair of boots. @Shyheels 12 cm definitely is also the sweet spot for me! I'm surprised how much I like these boots the more I look at them and think about them. Probably I should just buy them and see how it goes. Maybe sleep over it another night, we'll see. That would be awesome!

I know what you mean about skinny calves - I have the same but have been able to find boots that fit nicely and having skinny calves works well with stilettos! I too like to boots @higherheels has found, and I don’t usually like the lines of boots with heels over 12cm high. For me 12cm is kind of a sweet spot aesthetically - it projects the full imperiousness of a proper stiletto heel but without verging into fetish. The boots she has found don’t look fetishy at all, merely high - nice find! I hope you do get over to England sometime! We could catch up for a coffee in our challenge heels!

They are very nice looking, which is unusual for something this steep. If the photo accurately depicts the product, they are not fetish-y looking at all. But yeah, they sure look steeper than 13 cm. The front of the model's foot is pretty much the same as 90º with the floor--that's always a good indicator that you're approaching Very Difficult Territory. The other thing that scares me a bit is that the model's knee is not 100% straight. If you do wind up getting them, I hope the shafts fit your calves similar to what the photo shows. Perhaps hat is one of the reasons why I don't care for boots all that much. I have yet to find a pair that truly fit my calves well. Evidently I have skinnier legs than the average person who wears size 40. I've often said the same thing about Hanoi winters. Theoretically, at 10 or 15 degrees, I should certainly be comfortable without a jacket. But Hanoi is so damp, even I am cold at that temperature. I don't blame people for wearing winter coats inside the house. I imagine England is the same. Someday I hope to find out for myself.

While I agree there is a north-South divide in terms of people wearing heels, I’ve not noticed any of the other characteristics you describe - at least not in Yorkshire or Lancashire, not in height, build or dress sense. Outlook may be more traditional, which is why you will likely see more women smartly turned out in heels in Leeds say than in London, but otherwise it’s all much the same. Unless you were looking for heels, and noticing that you saw more up here than down south, I doubt you’d notice any difference.

There is certainly such a divide. Women in the north of England and Scotland are often shorter, hardier and more inclined to make a statement with their appearance and demeanour (not always attractively). Altogether, those factors tend to promote high heels - and bare legs/sandals/no coat, even in cold weather. From my own observations, men in the north tend to dress in a much more casual and often sloppy manner - unless at a formal event, such as a wedding, when the waistcoats and ties - albeit typically left undone as soon as possible (ugh!) - will be seen. I suspect that this male contrast and discomfort stems from a working-class background: a miner or shipwright for example would tend to dress in rather shabby clothes but have a 'Sunday best' suit in which he was never really comfortable - and which was often in the pawnshop when not immediately needed.

@HappyinHeels the Aldo store downtown Montreal is friendly to me trying on shoes? I might be traveling there in a month or so.

Yes, it's always the lower heels that are around, anything higher can be hard to find (that also applies to shopping for heels). I'm looking forward to your report.

Thanks for your opinion! I feel like I keep making myself believe that hopefully they're below 13,5 cm so I can buy them... I also really like the look of them.

It kinda is, in my opinion for Glasgow. We have lots of hills, challenging surfaces with the cobbles in some areas and the slate surfaces of the most common shopping streets. The lower heels are out in force, it’s the mid and higher heels that are, unfortunately, in a need of numbers being boosted. Im out the next two nights, hopefully in heels, so I’ll report back on how many wear heels to an event. I’m hoping to wear for both nights, if I can.

I agree - about 13.5 to 14cm. They look very high and very steep. Nice looking boots though. I'm not sure I could stand upright in them!

I agree on that 🙂 I keep thinking about the height on my boots candidate, could you guys give me your opinion? I don't believe the advertised heights and rather go by the visual appearance. I'd guess them to about 13,5 cm. What are your guesses? They might be tolerable, but also might be a bit too far away from the Hot Chicks, I'm really unsure...

I don’t think anyone who wears Hot Chicks could ever be classed as boring! it is funny though how our tastes and styles differ. I too really like it.

Now that you mention it, I'd say that in Germany heels are also more common in the north. What a shame that I live way down south.

So you both are the total opposite -mlroseplant still wearing sandals in november, Shyheels wearing boots all year, I love it! I am very boring in that matter 😉

I’m hoping the heater will be sorted this weekend. It’s not so much the temperature but the bone chilling dampness that is do unpleasant. England gets a damp cold and doubly so when you’re on the water!

Is that because the diesel heater is still on the fritz, or is it actually time to kick on the real heat? We are supposed to get our first killing frost this weekend, which is a little on the late side for us. I could make this answer a lot longer than it needs to be. The reason my boots are not on the higher end of the spectrum is because I typically do not wear boots unless it is absolutely necessary to wear boots, such as when it's snowing. Therefore, for practical reasons, the heel height does not exceed 10 cm, and is typically more like 8. I'm still wearing sandals in November! I will need to change that this weekend, as temperatures in my area are expected to dip below 0º for the first time this season.

I see heels quite frequently in Leeds and York. In York it tends to be more chunky heels because there are so many cobbled streets, although I have seen some intrepid souls gliding along in stilettos as though they hadn’t a care in the world. There is certainly a north south divide in the UK as regards heel wearing. It’s much more common in the north

I also observe that every year. I still don't have a clue why. From your description Glasgow sounds like the ultimate city for heels. It's been a while since I last visited Glasgow. I can't remember that there was a significant difference to German cities, but now it sounds like there is. But currently, even in Germany the lower heels are getting more again for winter season.

@mlroseplant Yes I also think I'd be fine continuing in 12 for winter, but I'm still interested in continuing with some higher boots. I finally found a pair of boots online which might be around 13,5 cm I guess. Still thinking if I should buy them. Is there a reason why your boots are lower than your other heels? @Shyheels All just a matter of practice, and I think your skill level is very good 🙂

Interesting topic indeed. Haven’t used AI that I know of. Don’t have Alexa, and never will, and have never asked Siri on my phone anything. I have watched others use it and asked test questions and noticed a narrower scope of information than should be the case. Whilst I believe it shows great potential in the medical field it seems as limited and inaccurate as the humans feeding it information. There is also the issue of data centers which gobble up electricity and use copious amounts of water. HinH

Mlroseplant, You really do well with the slacks or skinny jeans with the button up shirt and tie and all accented with various heels. It isn’t what I do but it looks great on you. HinH

Looks very presentable!