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It's circus stuff, and who doesn't love a circus? I'm always a sucker for watching stuff like this. I also like the videos, and there are many out there, where a woman walks on wine bottles in pointe shoes. And I don't even like pointe shoes all that much.

I have multiple reasons for full-body shaving, but one of them is because my wife and I were competitive swimmers. I know some ladies would probably think its odd to see a man fully shaven, but for her its not because swim teams often have "shaving parties" for swimmers just before major swim meets. She is used to seeing men completely hairless. Whether or not you actually get meaningful faster swim times I am not so convinced of. Myself, I think it will gain popularity. I just shave, but just because I am cheap and it is quick and easy. Once it's done that first time, it only takes a few minutes to keep the hair off.

Don't get me wrong--I have several pairs of mid heels that I wear fairly regularly, but I am not consumed by the desire to expand the collection. I wear them around the house, I wear them to work the farmer's market, and yes, I have even occasionally worn them to choir rehearsal. I also have several pairs of mid heels that I never wear, and at the moment I can't think of why I would ever wear them again. Do I wish I had a more neutral color of mid heeled sandal? Yes, but I'm not going to go to a great deal of trouble to find some. I expect to be laid off any week now, but no one knows the day or the hour when the thief will come. I suppose the office people do, but they ain't sayin'.

I’ve driven a Fiat Punto, not in heels, and I didn’t feel comfortable with the pedals either

What a cool story! She obviously knows her heels if she had a pair of Louboutin Pigalles in her wardrobe and it's nice to think you got her interested in bringing them back out again. It is also quite a compliment to your abilities in the Hot Chicks. The fact that you could do a few turns around the block in them is a wonderful feat in itself, but to do so looking so graceful that an onlooker is inspired to want get out her Louboutins and think about wearing them again is the best kind of compliment you could have. Not many people can walk so fluidly in Hot Chicks that other people want to take up wearing heels as a result.

I already did a few walks around the block in the Hot Chicks. This is the best (and hardest) training so far. Yesterday I had a funny experience. I'm doing my walks in the evening, it's mostly already dark outside and not much going on. But yesterday a neighbour was in the garden and she saw me walking by. At first she just greeted me normally, but then she had a wondering second glance and said: "Wow, they're especially high today". We then had a little conversation and it turns out she also has a pair of Louboutins, the Pigalle 100. She said she doesn't really wear them anymore, but I made her curious to get them out again 😉

@Shyheels That's a good idea! No, it was a Fiat Punto. I can't recall what exactly the problem was, it just didn't feel good. It might as well have been the car in general, but I didn't drive it in flats so I can't say for sure.

I once wrote a novel where the murder weapon ended up being a stiletto heel. This husband and wife were going on a dinner date when they stopped by to pick up a check from a con artist. Things played out and realizing they were being scammed, the woman got so incensed she struck at the man connecting with his corraded artery in his neck, killing him. Well, I write fiction, but I had to wonder if this ever happened so I looked it up. You only need to ask Ana Trujillo of Texas who had stabbed her boyfriend, Dr. Andersson 25 times with her size nine, five-inch, blue suede high-heeled pump. By the time paramedics arrived it was too late to save the doctor. She was sentenced to life in prison where she now wears flip flops and not high heels... thankfully.

Was it a Honda CR-V? The wife has one, and just the way the gas pedal is, I have to turn my foot at an odd cant to push on the gas. It works, but on longer drives it really can start to pain my foot. On really long drives it causes it to cramp. And like someone else said, the modern cars, including the Honda CR-V in this country anyway, has a variable transmission, so cruise control does not work great on it at all. It can never find an idea shift point because it is not locked into a particular gear.

Oh, okay. That is very interesting. I would have never considered the unavailability of high quality, high heeled shoes at a reasonable price. It makes sense though. I am sorry that you can't find those heels and are working so many hours. I got the opposite problem: I am in between jobs and in between different houses (the movers come on Thursday) so I don't have a lot going on.

Many years ago, I told myself I would get earrings when my mother died, it would kill her (I thought). Now she is well over 100, I wonder if I will ever to it. Having hairless bodies is a function of gyms and tattoos. That 'cute girl' tattoo is not as cute when it is hairy. I need sections of my body hairless to tape, so I get waxed regularly.

If piercing your belly button is a pain in the neck you missed the target by a bunch! 😁

We have indeed wandered far from the beaten path! And I’m gonna continue wandering for just a bit. About mlroseplant’s inclination to get a belly button piercing - for some reason, I’ve long been fascinated with the notion of an earring or earrings. Now obviously, that one would be impossible to keep a secret for long, but the notion endures. And the aforementioned nail tech, and my massage therapist (and dear friend,) have, unsolicited, both fueled that small flame 🙂 Now, whether painted nails, leggings, belly button rings, earrings, whatever - I’m a (retired) engineer with not a notion of understanding the inner workings of the human mind, but this conversation about quietly stepping out of the traditional boxes brings to mind a quip I’ve heard attributed to the late, famous Will Rogers, “Oklahomans will vote dry as long as they can stagger to the polls.” Regards, Logjam

I drive in heels all the time. No problem with that. Since I normally do not wear stilettos but block or stacked heels, it doesn't present a problem with me. Yesterday for example I wore a pair of small 3-1/2 " block heel , loafer pumps to church, then went out in the afternoon wearing a pair of black knee boots with 3-1/2" stacked heels. a pink skort above the knee, with a black polo shirt with a pink Breast Cancer Awareness logo on it. Got a couple compliments on my ensemble while I was out doing some Sunday shopping. Happy Heeling, bluejay

Same. But in reading your comment the idea suddenly came to me that if I got my bike out of storage, I could put on my heels and pedal up the towpath to a place where I could go for a stroll and get in some real world practice. Not cycling in heels for thrills, but for a practical reason.

Not my thing, but I appreciate the skill!

Cycling in heels is very comfortable because it's basically the same as cyling without heels, as only the front part of the feet touch the pedals. But the same as for driving a car: I wouldn't choose heels for the thrills, it's just more practical to keep them on. I also once had a rental which didn't feel that good in heels. But it might have also been in flats as well...

That’s true, there is little in the way of genuinely high heels unless you are paying Louboutin prices. I quite like mid heel boots but even there, I’m seeing where mid heel is now reckoned to be about two inches, or 5cm, and “high” heels are 7cm. i would want 8cm at least for my mid heel boots but they are rare and tend to be pretty ugly when I do see some.

As promised here is a cropped picture of them...

To answer your question… whether it be getting a belly-button piercing or shaving a huge portion of your body, despite it not being seen by others there is a very tangible benefit… you see it. That in and of itself is self-care. But that need not be in and of itself. For instance, I shave from the neck down, which is a secret no one really knows about me. But there is more to it than just disliking body hair. I like how it makes me feel cooler in the summer, and how shaving greatly reduces body odor. It takes some time to accomplish, but a reality is, once its shaven it takes very little time to keep shaving. For me, all that is worth doing and even if no one sees that, it still has tangible benefits. I am by no means trying to convince you to get a belly-button piercing at all here, but that too can have self-care properties to it with no need to show it off. Myself personally, I have a HUGE interest in integrity, which is following through with what I say I am going to do. So for me, if I had deemed that was something I would do after obtaining a flat stomach (a lofty accomplishment by the way), I would feel less about myself for not following through with the rest of it. But that is me, and only me; I have a huge amount of self-discipline. It is called second-order thinking. If I declare to myself I am going to pierce my belly button, and then don’t, it makes it easier to not go through with further declarations down the road. No… I will do it. I might not keep it pierced, but I will do what I said I would do. But that is just me, I want to be true to myself which has an inverse action to it as well. I won't lightly make a declaration like that from the start because I will have to do what I say I will do. But I suspect men who do secretive things do so for their own well-being. Some wear panties. Some paint their toes a bright color. Some wear leggings… all manner of things that make them feel good, and not to show others. I don’t fault men who say, ‘but why not show off what you do and to heck with what others think’, and to those I have great respect. But I also understand men who like doing or wearing something no one knows about too. They don’t have a need to rebel against societal norms openly, but they are doing it only for themselves. And that's the great thing about this thread, we realize statistically a lot of men are not cookie-cutter men... and that is a VERY good thing.

Funny, even though I have said elsewhere that I get no thrill from it, I just drove in heels yesterday--twice! I don't even really think about it, unless I have a long way to go. It did occur to me that I gained my dislike of driving in heels during the time I owned a particular car, which I no longer have. For some reason, that car had your feet at such an angle that I really did notice if I was wearing heels. With my present car, I really don't think about it much.

Part of it is, I've been working more than I would like, but I still somehow manage to have time to come on here and comment. The other part of it is, like @Cali says, I just haven't really seen anything like I like. Specifically, the stuff I like is not high enough. I see plenty of stuff that looks cool. I see some stuff that looks absolutely beautiful. The problem is, it seems to be all mid-heels (or what is a mid-heel to me). I'm not going to buy yet another pair of shoes anymore unless the heels are 4 1/2"+ (11 cm). There isn't that much out there in that category that is not hundreds of dollars.

As long as we're off the subject (and I don't think anybody objects), in my boring adulthood, I've pretty much given up on the secret stuff, and it's why I'm not keeping a promise I made to myself several years ago. I told myself that as soon as I got my flat stomach back, I was going to get my belly button pierced. For a number of years, I felt very certain I was not going to ever have to worry about making that decision. Within the last several months, for reasons I don't fully understand, that time is now. However, I'm not going to do it for three reasons: 1) My wife would kill me. 2)I'm already tired of shaving as much as I do, and don't really want to add in another large region of my body. 3) What am I, at age 57, (make that age 58--winter is almost here) going to start wearing crop tops all the time? If I didn't show it off, what would the point be? I understand having secrets, but I don't understand having that sort of secret. It seems like it would be a pain in the neck for nothing.

I think you miss the point. If stopped for any reason (realistic or not) by the police (e.g. manner of driving; speeding etc), an officer will usually check both the vehicle (tyres etc) and the driver (drink/drugs?). Any unusual footwear or clothing, if seen, is likely to excite his interest if it suggests in his opinion some 'impairment of control', or worse. But the principal situation would be police involvement after some type of accident, whether or not involving a third party - in which case any evidence of possible impairment will be noted. I did not, and do not, suggest that simply being observed driving whilst wearing heels is likely to lead to any form of report, charge or prosecution. Of course it won't, unless it clearly constitutes some danger in itself or is said to have been potentially contributory to one. I suggest we leave it there; further speculation has little merit and the only opinion that really matters is that of a police officer on the spot.

Silly perhaps, but just because it is not something you might do, does not mean a person cannot appreciate the skill, bravery and determination that it takes to take a hobby to the next level. As an example, while you love being on a canal boat, do you not appreciate the beautiful lines of a well crafted wooden kayak? A handsome barrque breaking through heavy rollers? A bateau laid up with striking planking? as it scoots down whitewater? There is complaints on here of people no longer wearing high heels because it is inconvenient and challenging to wear, yet this woman is not only slacklining in high heels, but jumping in them... on a slackline... and balancing upon a series of soda cans. It may not be skills any of us necessarily need to enjoy our lives wearing high heels, but I can appreciate the skill and determination she has in being able to do it.