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(I hope this is the right fourm to post this in seeing how its the rant fourm or what not. If not feel free to delete. It won't hurt my feelings any. Its kind of hard to at this piont.) Ever Feel Like Just letting out a great big sigh? I've been depressed lately. I haven't even been wearing my shoes lately. I don't know wrong. I just thought letting out a sigh would help.

It's all good. ~Arron.

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Yeah I guess one could call this a case of late spring fever. Though its more the fact that I've never had a gf thats getting to me. Thats interesting. I didn't know that those could benifit men as well. Thats cool.

It's all good. ~Arron.

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there's a lot of advice for the lovelorn out there. I'm sure you can find all that you want to read. I do know that if you don't get out from behind your computer and make yourself available, you never will find a (real) girlfriend. I'm sure that you must have some endearing qualities that some nice girl would find attractive. So, get out and display them. I even bet if you wore your heels to a party, at least one girl would be attracted to you. Who knows, it might be the begining of a beautiful friendship. :roll:

Being mentally comfortable in your own mind is the key to wearing heels in public.

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Thanx to all, for listening and responding. Yeah you guys are right I just need to stop being so shy and just get out more as well as talk more whenever I do go out. I need to start wearing my heels out more. Well, I don't know if I need to, but I think it would be cool if I did. And who knows, maybe it will lead me to a girl that thinks its cool. Yeah I just need to stop being so scared and shy all the time. Need to be myself more.

It's all good. ~Arron.

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I'm such a fucking looser. I feel like offing my self right now. Not that I am. I just feel like shit. I hate myself and I hate my life. I don't know why I'm the way I am. I wish I was a normal guy that could get liad.

It's all good. ~Arron.

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Wow. Sounds like life's really getting you down. You're not alone. You've got friends here on this board. Drop me a PM if you'd like to chat back and forth for a while. Very few of those you see around you are rock steady throughout life - the vast majority of us suffer from a major depression at least once in our lives, and about half of everyone on the planet does so several times. That doesn't make what you're going through any easier, though. But there's a message, here - it'll get better. Things might get worse before they get better, but it will get better. Always does. That's just the way of things. As for getting laid... There's a lot more to life than getting laid. If someone's telling you otherwise, they not doing you any favors, so ignore them. Late in 2001, I went through a major blue funk due to the downturn of computer-related business. What I'd worked so hard to create was barely breaking even and all signs said it was going to sour within a month. After a month of trying to drown my sorrows in a daily bucket of ice cream, I was putting on a little weight, so one morning I decided to walk to the post office, about a mile away, with two letters I needed to mail. After dropping off the letters, I kept walking - about 5 miles in all. Somewhere during that walk I forgot about my troubles and just began enjoying the walk, looking at the people, the cars going past, etc. I think it was the exercise and the sunshine, both of which are good for the doldrums, and both of which I was getting very little of in those days. I keep some pretty crazy hours, as this is a 24/7 town, and the casinos don't let you do behind the scenes maintenance work (networks/computers) during peak hours (noon to midnight). So, I'm usually up way early (like 8pm) and sleep most of the day. I walked again for the next week (about 2 miles a day, this time), and by the end of the week I was no longer depressed. To this day I'm walking at least 20 minutes a day. You can also try this - find a different restuarant each day during your lunch hour and walk there. Once you're run out of restaurants, just recycle them, only buy something different on the menu. Take a good book with you and read it, or the newspaper, at lunch. Who knows? You might meet a nice lady out there. You know what else really helps? B-complex vitamins. They're very cheap and available everywhere. Good luck, and drop me a line some time.

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Take up dancing to get out, have fun, meet people. Radical idea? I never danced until after losing my beautiful wife to a heart attack. A nice woman on a cruise dragged me onto the dance floor one evening. We are still friends after several years. I took, and still take, dance lessons at an Arthur Murray studio and just competed in a national (U.S. and Canada) competition and won top student in my category. Have met a lot of nice people and my current and serious girl friend that way. And she likes my high heels! Arthur Murray is expensive, but our studio is great fun. Most of the studios offer a couple of introductory lessons for a cheap price. If continuing is too expensive, there are surely several ballrooms around your area that offer lessons and dances at reasonable prices ($10 or so for a lesson and an evening of dancing on Friday or Saturday). Look in the phone book or search on the Internet. It's tough when you are shy, but try it, you'll like it! And a man who dances is a rare find for the ladies!

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Forgot to mention that many of the people taking lessons are single and looking to meet others. That's true both in the studios and at the ballrooms. It's also great exercise.

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Its just a stage that you are going through. A lot of men go through a stage of being very depressed in their 20's I know I did. People will tell you to pull yourself together and snap out of it, but its easier said then done. I managed to throw it of by finding some new interests and changing my lifestyle. The result of which I had the time of my life in my 30's, I took up skin-diving, rock climbing, caving, horse riding. I met several interesting older women and had affairs with them. I have never suffered from depression since. I have learnt to spot it coming now and I don't let things or people piss me off. If you can't solve a problem, walk away from it. After all you are not getting paid enough to let it ruin your health. As Genebujold say's get out in the sun and get a life. :roll:

"You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave ! " The Eagles, "Hotel California"

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I've never danced in my life. I need to learn to. I wouldn't mind getting into it. I might look into that once I get my liscense and things settle down for me financially.

I second BobHH's observations. I've never gone down the road of depression, nor do I intend to.

I'm married, you're single. If I were single, a dance studio would be the first place I would go for two reasons. First, although I dance well, it's not "classical" and I would like to improve that. Second, there are, as Bob says, a lot of other "classical" aka "classy" individuals who're frequenting those studios. Even though some are looking for mates and most aren't, don't let that scare you from having some fun jittering about the floor!

Thank you, SkirtedUK, for the nod: "As Genebujold say's get out in the sun and get a life. :roll: "

So true. Life is what YOU make it. Not what other's make it. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again, etc.

Men have to work - so do many women. Evaluate your strengths. A Strong-Campbell interest survey does a remarkable job. Many agencies, including school and government, will administer this test for free. The whole premise behind the test is that it tries to associate your own interests and disinterests with those who're happiest in their professions. And that's a good thing!

After years of trying different things, I wound up in a profession, by accident, that's one of the top three professions recommended by Strong Campbel for me nearly thirty years ago. And I'm loving life! You cant go wrong, and it may very well open up specialities that you've put off but that are required to fulfill your dream.

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Yeah I've been trying to develop new interest. I'm trying to learn how to DJ, and I wouldn't mind learning to be a photography. I want to take a few courses on it. A friend of minds studies martial arts and keeps saying I should start going with him, but I suck at athletics. But I'm kind of thinking about it. Thats cool about the Strong-Campbell interest survey. I've taaken a few surveys that are similar before. All of them keep pointing me into office type job. Which I don't mind. Thats the kind of job I have right now and it seems to be the type of work I'm best suited for. (I'm a clerical assistant.) Though I wouldn't mind being a computer tech or a Network Admin or something.

It's all good. ~Arron.

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Yeah I've been trying to develop new interest. I'm trying to learn how to DJ, and I wouldn't mind learning to be a photography. I want to take a few courses on it. A friend of minds studies martial arts and keeps saying I should start going with him, but I suck at athletics. But I'm kind of thinking about it. Thats cool about the Strong-Campbell interest survey. I've taaken a few surveys that are similar before. All of them keep pointing me into office type job. Which I don't mind. Thats the kind of job I have right now and it seems to be the type of work I'm best suited for. (I'm a clerical assistant.) Though I wouldn't mind being a computer tech or a Network Admin or something.

PM me. Sounds like you and I are the same bird. I'll set you up.

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Sigh I'm haveing one of "those" days agian. Man I wish I had a gf. I need to hurry up and get over this shyness stuff. (exussive my exccsessive complaining on the subject and my horrible spelling.)

It's all good. ~Arron.

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Feeling a whole lot better today. Still depressed a little but I will try not to be a sour puss about the whole thing. Just really sux not knowing what it is like. Oh well. At least I'm feeling better today.

It's all good. ~Arron.

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Trust me - women aren't the answer to your problem, nor are they the cause!

Try Toastmasters: http://www.toastmasters.org/

Consider:

1. Women are attracted to power more than anything else.

2. Women are attracted to confidence only behind power.

3. Women are attracted to listeners only behind confidence and power.

4. Confident people tend to wield more power than non-confident people.

5. The best leaders (power) have good listening skills - if they didn't, people turn against them (loss of power).

6. Toastmasters teaches sound listening skills and good public speaking skills, which, when practiced often, lead to confidence, both in front of a crowd, as well as one-on-one.

7. Confidence and good listening skills lead to power.

8. All three together are irrestable to women.

I'm former corporate trainer (among other things). Was nervous as could be during my first class (3 people), but after three years, I could stand in front of any crowd and lecture on just about any subject for an hour after less than three hours of preparation.

I became so confident I quit my job and started my own company, successfully attracting very good workers and, using listening, and confidence, leading them to be the core of a very successful company.

Toastmasters: http://www.toastmasters.org/

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If you truly feel the way you describe, asdf174, perhaps it is time to talk your feelings over with someone other than the members of this forum. While I'm confident most of us would like to help you over the rough spots and to get through this, I'm sure it would be inappropriate to reveal the type of personal information to us that we would require in order to provide you with useful and relevent advice. That being said, however, I believe all of the members of this forum wish you a quick recovery and look forwarded to seeing your smiling face amongst us again soon. :D

Being mentally comfortable in your own mind is the key to wearing heels in public.

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I don't agree with the last post. I don't think you need to provide "the type of personal information" in order to get ideas or help, or indeed just discuss the general nature of the things that are bugging you. You can always change names to protect the innocent if necessary. It's not to say anyone here is going to be able to help where you need it, but they can always listen, and some good may come of it

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