What is the purpose of this board?

[Zimmy]

The reason for asking is that i feel that this board has become more and more a board for discussions around crossdressing and the different issues men are facing wearing heels. And now i see people are getting "bumped off" beacause of a post about something that's highly high heel related. I'm of course reffering to the fetish issues that i beleive led to hhds leaving. So if there is no room for discussions around fetish reletad subjects, I'm leaving too. I really don't understand how a board like this don't accept things like that? So if i'm the only male here that just has a high heels fetish, don't like wearing heels myself, don't like wearing womens clothing, just plain and simply love high heels on women, then please tell me so I can find another community.

[Bubba136]

There is a line between what is acceptable here and what isn't. I believe one person that wanted to stretch the envelope beyond what the moderators felt was acceptable, left on his own accord. I personally believe that person had a great deal to add to the discussions that take place here without pushing our moderators to the point of suspension. I think he was advised that his comments were bordering on the unacceptable. All he had to do, I think, was to tone down the level of his exuberance and return the quality of his remarks to their former level. Leaving was his choice. He will be missed.

[Firefox]

All that happened was a couple of posts were locked relating to sexual fluids on shoes. He wasn't even formally warned or anything close to it. The decision to leave was his, and his alone. You can discuss "fetish" subjects all you want till the cows come home and go back out to the fields for that matter. What we are NOT allowed to do is post porn pics, have nudity, porn links, gratuitous sexual material or anything related to those matters. Those are not our rules, they are made by the board hosts. We must stick to the rules or they will pull the plug on the board. Would you rather have the board as it is, or no board? That's the choice you have. I keep on explaining this till I'm blue in the face, but some people still seem to interpret the guidelines as a kind of prudish cencorship or intolerance on behalf of the admins. If you can't agree with the webhost's restrictions then it's tough, but we don't have any say on those rules, so they aren't going to change. I hope that clears things up.

[PJ]

Zimmy;

Check out the link below to see an example of what subjects are considered "fetish" in this forum. There are 5 pages of subjects.

http://www.hhplace.org/hhboard/viewforum.php?f=19

[Bubba136]

ff wrote:

I keep on explaining this till I'm blue in the face, but some people still seem to interpret the guidelines as a kind of prudish cencorship or intolerance on behalf of the admins.

Why not put this response in the form of a FAQ? Then, whenever the subject came up, you could just type "See FAQ # 25 for the answer."

[WarrenB]

This forum is basically a support group for like minded individuals. I know I find support here for my heel loving. I've always been a little embarassed by it and I met one other man who was way more open about it than I am. Besudes, why should wonem have all the fun. (That's a great line BTW, from this forum).

[Slim]

I confess that I do have a slight problem with men who want their women friends to wear heels but won't do it themselves. Kind of wimping out I think.

[Heelfan]

Zimmy, I think you are taking a very negative view of these Forums. I am speaking both as a guy who wears heels, but who gets even more pleasure from admiring girls wearing them (as you do). Admittedly there are many guys who discuss their heel-wearing here, but that is purely because it is such a great set of Forums where heels can be discussed intelligently in a civilised porn-free setting. But the whole strength of these Megaforums is there sheer diversity with something for everyone. There are threads on your favourite sightings of girls in heels, on buying shoes for wives and girlfriends, on inviting girls to post the feminine viewpoint, on photographs of female celebrities in high heels, on vintage pictures of ladies high heel fashions, and postings and stories of actual girls' heelwearing by great ladies on these forums like Laurie, Anita, Erica, Lucy etc. etc. and photographs of wonderful female heel-wearers like Debbie and Jane, and lots, lots more. As a high heel enthusiasm of many years standing, I can say that in my opinion these Forums are the best in the world for high heel enthusiasts. Cheerfully yours, Heelfan

[TallSwede]

Dear Zimmy, This forum is for anyone interested in high heels period. -Tell us about your desires, experiences, or horrible encounters... It is just a place for HH devotees to share their interest. Regards, TallSwede

[verngentleheels]

This forum has opened my eyes and helped me accept the relative normalacy of my love of high heels. Yes I love to wear heels. Yes I love to see women wearing high heels. I'd be happy if everyone wore high heels. This forum gives a common place to exchange stories, opinions and in a quiet way support each other. Vern

[JeffM]

I think what has happened is that most members of this board either like and/or wear high heels. Then along came the questions. What else do you wear that is made for women? What perfume do you wear? Do you paint your toe nails/finger nails? Questions like these have been answered and it is not that any one has been trying to hide who they are it is just that we have found out more about them because of the freedom expressed by most. And that to me is a good thing showing that we have great moderators (they could have said if it is not about heels then dont say it) and a very open minded and trusting community. That doesnt make the board a cross dressers board. Jeff

[DandyDude]

I'm another who likes to wear heels and loves women in them. I also like to wear a few things people think of as for women, but do not consider myself a crossdresser by any means. I don't try and pass myself off as a woman, in fact, I'm quite masculine in the ways that matter. My nym isn't DandyDude for nothing: Dandy=interested in clothes; Dude=the original meaning, a man who is...interested in clothes, a city slicker if you will.

[Paul (North-East)]

Hi Zimmy, This board is so big that I think there is room for everyones views, regardless of whether they are a heel wearer or not. I'm not a heel wearer myself. Like you, I love the look of them on women, but I totally respect any guy who choses to do so and am always interested in what they have to say on the subject. Hope you decide to stick around. Paul.

[mk4625]

I also like to do both. Kathy made me get rid of my boots (I gave three pairs to my friend Sam who is my size and whose girlfriend is more permissive) but she lets me wear things that have lower heels or wedge bottoms. Lately I haven't been doing very much of that either since I've been getting a bigger turn-on looking at Kathy's high heels than wearing my own. Boots and spike heels are still worn in bed, but only by Kathy. It took a lot of coaching to develop the proper attitude in her. Neither of us want me to get wounded, but I like it when she uses her boots and shoes aggressively in sex. It's been necessary for both of us to make adjustments. Before she met me, she didn't even know what a fetish was although she was aware that boots were often worn by prostitutes. However she is a good sport about wearing what I like, even if she forbade me to wear my own boots. I can sympathize with her viewpoint: I probably wouldn't want her wearing men's shoes when we go out.

[Guest]

This board is so big that I think there is room for everyones views, regardless of whether they are a heel wearer or not.

I'm not a heel wearer myself. Like you, I love the look of them on women, but I totally respect any guy who choses to do so and am always interested in what they have to say on the subject.

Exactly. But we won't get off that easy. In every forum there will be bullies there who will not accept an opinon different than theirs, and the moderators will often just ignore them. I'm kind of sick of it, I don't know why I bother posting on message boards at all.

[BeHeels]

In every forum there will be bullies there who will not accept an opinon different than theirs, and the moderators will often just ignore them.

But isn't that just how real life goes now?

Take any group of people and start talking about a controversial opinion or point of view. You're bound to get a reaction, sometimes more fierce than you would expect.

Respect for others or other opinions tends to get forgotten just because of the freedom of speech some want. And the anonymity of the forum makes thing worse.

I doubt if i enforcement by moderator would complete ban the problem.

So in the end there is a chance you'll meet bullies on this forum. But there is a much bigger chance that you'll meet someone with the same passion for heels.

BeHeels

[CeliaC]

Though I'm only a very recent member (though been lurking occasionally), here are my two cents worth.

While personally I don't draw the line at nudity, but wouldn't like to see explicit sexuality on this board, I'm perfectly happy and prepared to stick to the rules of the board and the community. There are other boards covering these topics and no reason why anyone cannot be a member of both and adhere to the respective codes of conduct. Anyway, Firefox and others have fully covered this side of Zimmy's question.

The reason for asking is that i feel that this board has become more and more a board for discussions around crossdressing and the different issues men are facing wearing heels. ...

I think Zimmy has a point here. While I admire and have the highest respect for people taking their fashion statements, heels or other, to the streets ( I do so myself in a more moderate way), I too would like to see more even distribution of the sexes. How about all those with consenting girlfriends/wifes posting some more pictures? (Thanks Sally for helping to tip the scales!) Otherwise I can see the point, that people are taking this for an exclusively male-wears-HH forum and support group.

[HeelD]

Otherwise I can see the point, that people are taking this for an exclusively male-wears-HH forum and support group.

Maybe because women don't need "support" and "advice" (apart from what goes with what) when it comes to wearing HH in public. Hence they don't go to this site, they can go to the Fashion Spot or Vogue instead.

I'm totally cool about people's fetishes but I'd rather it was kept to the separate sub forum for that subject.

[lorriette]

Zimmy has found, like many others here, that his views are at odds with someone else's. every one believes thier view to be the "one", but I don't believe they should be rudely shot down. In moderate heels[ sub 5"] women probably don't face the same predudice as men. It stands to reason that you would see less of those posts, even if you had an equal ratio of m/f members.

I respect the writters view, irrespective of your involvement. There wouldn't be this forum if we all followed exactly the same path.

All this site really needs, is no spam, and members to post something they did, liked, photographed or heard about, that may interest someone else.

[Dr. Shoe]

This is a forum, a place where people can air their views. If you don't like the other person's point of view then I'm afraid that's tough, he probably doesn't like your views. What I dislike is people who abuse the other person just because their opinion is at odds with their own. If I were a moderator, any post that unfairly abuses another member would be deleted or edited and a note left indicating why and then I would send a PM to the offender explaining that it is not tolerated and why.

[Danielinheels]

I had a long post typed out, then lost it about 80 percent of the way through.

quick summary, hhplace forums provide:

1) a place where people who like the sight of a nice pair of heels to talk about heels they see in public

2) men & women can acquire gender-specific fashion tips, post pictures of their outfits and purchases, etc.

3) CD/TV/TS members can discuss fashion in a similar context as above; also help newer members who may feel CD/TV/TS find themselves

4) media - videos, pictures, stories

5) the ability to meet other members - heelmeets where folks get together from a similar area and take the streets in heels, also where members can hook up and talk to each other in private

6) buying/selling of heels, also repair advice

7) a general discussion forum for us to talk amongst each other as friends without centering discussion around heels

There's something for everyone here. If you're unsure of exactly what that something is, either make a post asking what it is you want to know (taking reverence to ensure proper placement of your thread, maximizing readership) or use our search feature - we've talked about plenty of things here over the years - good and bad, and your question could have been answered before (not that we will take offence to answering again).

I'll use myself for example: Around this time two years ago, I bought those heels to the left. I didn't exactly receive fanfare for the shoes; nonetheless it was known that I had them. Ashamed of having them, though, I kept them under my bed for a good deal of time. One day I started joking with a friend about "Stripper shoes," and that's when I found the confidence to show her that I had those shoes. With that confidence, I started searching around for sites discussing guys who like high heels - I knew I wasn't the only one, it was just a matter of finding out where the discussion was taking place.

I found the High Heel Meeting Place.

In doing so, I found an entirely untapped level of confidence and ability to wear high heels and other women's shoes. I started wearing other, tamer styles out in public. I started shopping for more shoes, eventually owning more women's shoes than men's shoes. I wore my shoes even more frequently. I've attempted to push the envelope a bit - nail polish, stockings, female underwear, etc - through trial and error (lots of error), I've found stockings to be the only "supplement" I'll ever add to my heel-wearing. Were the others fun? Sure - I just wasn't going to run with them.

And, in one of the bravest moves I've made to this day - I revealed to an ex-girlfriend turned good friend that I had so many pairs of women's shoes. Since I was downsizing the amount of shoes I had, and she and I wore the same shoe size, I let her have pick of the treasure. She was the first "local" friend that I indulged in my heel-wearing. She doesn't fully comprehend at the time, but that's okay. We're still great friends, almost as if nothing had happened. I've agreed to be her shoe-shopping buddy should we ever live in the same city again. I've befriended sales associates at shoe stores that I wouldn't have if I were shopping for boring men's shoes. I've taken a friend out to a movie in my heels.

A whole new sense of self unfolded with the relatively simple choice to wear a different style of shoe, a change brought about by my decision to join this board with a fairly clear goal in mind. Anyone who wants the same results can get them in whatever capacity they desire. It's all about self-application.

[Dawn HH]

Danielle:-) It appears that you have come a long way in a short period of time. Cudos! Cheers--- Dawn HH