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Hello kf, I appologize for not replying more quickly. The work life went to crap and then at the end of June I go Pneumonia so I have not been around much. I would still like to put together a group in the Phoenix area. I am moving slowly with it however I would love to hear any ideas that you have about it. Also, I would love to hear about the shoe store in west Phoenix. Do you know if the go up to size 12? Later, Larry