dr1819

Guys N. Heels, that's an excellent suggestion.

WELL SAID, DR1819!

Wow. Well said, Guy N. Heels. And thanks for the nod.

Yes, I believe personal respect for others is universal, and it doesn't matter whether we're dealing with our parents, our children, those who work for us, or for those whom we work. I called my boss on the carpet today about an issue, but I did so in a respecful manner, outlining his options/alternatives, and let him make the final choice, with my input.

Hey, that's life, whether in extended families, work, societies, whatever.

You have a good link to the maker? I would mind having a pair...

Huh?! I guess that's statistic talk. After delving through a few encyclopedias and some dictionaries, I managed to translate that into: There appears to be an average height of 5'5" and 5'6" probably due to the women voters.

I do prefer plain English.

Actually, the primary modality is 5'11", while the secondary modality is 5'5" to 5'6", indicating it's because the women are voting, too - which is just fine.

However, far more men are voting than women (about 6 to 1).

And a couple of years later, the phoenix has risen. Please continue...

I think the owner's taste is paramount. If there's a particular style and fit that you're searching for, then pay whatever (within reason) it takes to obtain it. You may only have one pair, but at least you have what you want. I wouldn't break the bank on obtaining everything the custom store has to offer, though...

Perhaps they were alluding to the fact that they also sell men's style sandals and not women's sandals to men....which would go without saying because, as we all know, what seller is usually aware that the heels we're buying are for ourselves?

Perhaps. Then again, I think most shoe salespeople are wise to the fact that when a 5'11" guy walks in asking about a size 13, it's probably for himself!

I've found Lazarus Long's character to be very near and dear to my own heart. Over the years I've been a burger-flipper, a sales clerk, a camp counselor "Pathfinder specialist!", statistician, navigator, pilot, network security specialist, technical writer, fashion admirer... I'm sure it hasn't stopped there. I know I've made an impact on the world, as I see the changes I've recommended come to fold. Very mild and moderate, but an impact nevertheless. But Lazarus changed entire worlds! No, I'm no meglomaniac. I simply enjoy righting wrongs, a difficult, and highly underpaid profession.

Well shuckey dang! Think I'll dab a little cow manure behind each ear tomarrow morning!

And I'll be steppin' a bit more to the right as I pass ye by!

Hey - it was a fun thread - I had to revive it!

Well, there's a lot of them here! Heelmet in New York this weekend, too. Perhaps you can make it up there. You'll find it in the Real Life Meetings discussion. Kneehighs does a great job organizing them - I'm sure qutie a few attendees will be there, particularly on that evening!

Perception is reality. My counter: Perception isn't reality. It's merely an abstraction thereof, and quite often not a very good one at that. My other counter: If perception were reality there'd be no magicians. My third counter: Ok - I perceive that you need to get out of my face. That's reality, so make it happen. My fourth counter: Ok... How do you perceive this? (and slap them - hard) My fifth counter: Ah, but is reality merely a perception? My sixth counter: Then misperception is unreal, and therefore not possible. My seventh counter: Reall! So what do you think of my new heels?

Thighhighs, I'd be willing to bet no one's going to even give those a second look, even with a higher heel. I've a pair I bought from Payless (wearing them now) that never draws any attention, either, unless I sit down on the train or in a restaurant. It's got a narrower, tapered heel, about 3-1/2 inches. But standing with my pant leg hanging down, they look like cowbody boots. One of the things I like about them the most is that they're quite when I walk! I know some of like to sound like a freight train, but I'd prefer to heel with no more noice than a sneaker, if that were possible.

I believe all of the links have a shoe size converter that equates sizes from all countries, as well as between men's and women's sizes.

If not, click here.

Oh, and to answer your question, the only wedge heels I have are a pair of black sandals with two straps. I've worn them out only on two occasions. Beneath long jeans they look just like men's sandals, although they have a 4" heel.

Within a gnat's of 6' in bare feet. Why?

Chris

I'm doing a proportionality study.

Welcome, DGMurdock.

Currently there are exceedingly few companies making high-heeled boots specifically for men, while there are quite a few making high-heeled boots for men who're cross-dressing or are into transvestism.

However, many men who've rejected the notion that a higher heel equates to femininity are buying the more masculine styles of women's high-heeled boots and shoes in ever-increasing numbers, as reflected by recent and rather significant increases in the variety of styles offered in larger sizes.

The following companies specialize in larger sizes, and can offer you pretty much what you want through ladies size 13 (about men's 11 to 12, give or take brand):

Shoes at Zappos.com - The Web's Most Popular Shoe Store! Our shoe store features dress shoes, casual shoes, and athletic shoes for men and women!

Nordstrom.com – Shop From Over 500 Brands

Payless ShoeSource - Women's Shoes, Men's Shoes, Children's Shoes, Sandals and Boots

Womens Shoes, Mens Shoes, Prom Shoes, Merrell, Diesel, Clarks, Cole Haan - Free Shipping - 6PM.com

ShoeMall - Free Shipping on Women's and Men's Brand Name Shoes

Shoes - Free Shipping & Return Shipping - Mens Shoes, Womens Shoes has quite a few offerings in 12 and less, too.

The rest of the "size 13" and above crowd are largely fetish shoe makes, with correspondingly "incredibly sexy" but not very practical wear for males in our society type offerings.

You can occasionally find some good deals on eBay, but first check to ensure that the same shoe isn't available on Payless for half the price (some jerks buy cheap and jack the price).

Any more questions? Just let me know.

The most amazing thing about this survey (and it's a very good survey, Scotty!), is that about two-thirds of the responders already wear heels outside, while the other third would eventually like to. Of those who do street-heel, the discretion level is fairly equal across the board, with a third showing serious signs of discretion, a third showing moderate signs of discretion, and a third not caring who saw what. Micha, you're right over yonder in Frankfurt. Gotta get together for lunch, sometime. Yes, I'll wear heels, but I'll probably be discrete about it... Daylight, you know. Causes these vampire heels to melt away into block heeled goo...

Ok, Guy N. Heels - any links to where I might find some of these silicone quieters/floor protectors? I do have a few pair of stilettos, and if I could walk down the street at anything less than 100 decibels, I just might do so! Any observations/experience on how long they'd last?

Reminds me of walking into a Payless in a major metropolitan area, and encountering not just one, but three other guys, trying on heels. When I asked the manager what percentage of his high heeled customers were men, he replied "oh, about 40% to 50%." I was dumbfounded, but he said that even in rural America, where he'd been a manager before, it was upwards of 20%. Go figure. Lot's of guys in hiding, folks. The trend is way more prevalent than what we see out there on the streets.

Well, I'm not exactly wearing "diminuative" sizes...

Agreed. While this one was a great idea, the preliminary results showed the response range was too wide. As a result, 95% of the data is lumped into 2 of the 10 categories. My "Take II" was an attempt to better arrange the response curve (successful, from the curves), but people keep posting here, instead. Should I lock this with a polite note asking that those who've voted here please re-vote on Take II so the board can obtain more accurate results?

IMHO, 30 years old is way to old to live with one's parents -- unless there are "special" circumstances unrelated to finances. The unwritten rule about children living with parents, no matter what age, is that they have no privacy while under their parent's roof. Whatever rules parents establish are the rules you live by. To angerly react :mad:to your mother going through your things isn't proper behavior. If you demand total privacy, get your own place where tenant-landloard laws apply. Otherwise, cool it.

I respectfully disagree. I lived my parents for four months after college, awaiting the move to my first real job. Purpose - to save money and to visit with the folks "one last time" (extended visits, anyway). I worked temp jobs, paid room and board (a relative pittance), and enjoyed our time together while I wound my springs tight before jumping off into the great big old world.

A decade later I was back home for more than 10 days (two months) but it was due to an illness in the family (my wife) which required extended care.

An interesting experience, as it forced both myself and my folks to learn to accept the fact that all of us were older. I was no longer 18-year-old who left for college, nor the 24-year-old who stayed with them for a few months. And they weren't the same hopping 45-year-olds they were back then, either. Instead, they were closer to 60, and were slowing down.

Extended families are the norm in many societies, for practical reasons. In others, for whatever reason, they're rare. Regardless, if it works, terrific, as living under the same roof does save boatloads of money, particularly when the mortgage is already paid. On the other hand, conflict resolution, and issues of privacy rise to the surface, which usually requires a bit of diplomacy in addition to a significant level of tolerance.

It's not for everyone, but it is for some.

Actually, I kind of like the atheletic shoe/heel look, provided it's not with pointed-toe Converse look (which stinks, IMHO). I've yet to find any pair that come in my size, though. It seems they all taper out around size 11. Probably one of J-Lo's requirements before she wore her first pair and popularized the style.

Good luck! I once thought my wife was very accepting, but she turned. As it turns out, a woman I've known for 30% longer than I've known my wife has both a stronger faith and is much more accepting. I think this and The Adventures of Kneehighs! (Ta-Ta-DAH!!!!) has changed my perspective, along with those of you who's loved ones are more accepting of your choosing to wear heels. I recently asked my parents, who knew of the "old" issues, "what if I still enjoyed wearing heels and skirts? What would you think of me then?" My Mom's response was more accepting than my Dad's "I don't know," (though I know he's an old softie at heart). She said, "of course we would love you, and you'd always be welcome in our home." That and the other feedback I've received is that while some are judgmental, others are quite accepting. At lot of it's a matter of who you find. Dr. Shoe, I'm glad you found someone who understands the difference between normality and reality. Normality is a statistical standard which accepts a couple or three standard deviations from the norm given a particular confidence interval and rejects all else, whereas reality accepts the entire population as is.

Preliminary results: It looks like a typical bell curve with a bit of binodality appearing around 5'5" and 5'6", I suspect, from a few female voters - nothing wrong with that, though - keep voting!