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I realize that everybody is having a bit of fun at my expense, and that's fine with me. The "pain in the neck" I was referring to was all of the maintenance that would be required to have a navel piercing. Like Cali intimated, having a belly ring buried somewhere in a shag carpet is not a good look, and it's certainly nothing I'd want to look at. So if I'm not going to show it off to the public, that's a LOT of time to spend twice a week keeping everything beaten down for the privilege of being a navel-gazer. And that's if the silly thing heals up right, and there's no guarantee of that, especially at my age. This is not about a solemn promise to myself broken, it's about separating fantasy from reality. When actually forced to make a decision, the cost-benefit ratio did not look good. And let's not forget about the fact that I wouldn't be around anymore after that, because my wife would kill me!

Now that sounds really impressive!

Ah, see, so it was probably just the car itself if you encountered the same

I was also quite surprised that she knows a bit about heels and even owns a pair of Louboutins. Yes, I could see that she sometimes wears heels, at least more than others, but this was not what I expected. Thank you! I have to point out that up to now I've only chosen the shortest possible walk, which is as I measured 170 m long. I want to keep it short for the beginning as I rather want to do it more often. And I think it was more about our conversation than my walking skills that got her into thinking about her Pigalles again, but I'm happy about it anyway 🙂

My wife has talked about getting some new heels... but because we are headed into winter, she wants some heeled boots. I dismissed her talk the other day, but apparently she is serious because she brought it up again. She has a favorite sweater dress that is grey, and her thoughts were, a pair of over-the-knee boots would look nice with it. Probably grey in color as well. The sweater dress kind of has a funny story to it. We were at the mall and eating at a food court when we saw it hanging high in a store beside us. My wife and I are best friends, so we banter a lot and soon that started; with her thinking it was a typical sweater and me saying it was a sweaterdress. Well we typically end up in these wagers to deduce who is right, so with dirty dishes to be done on the line, I went over and asked the clerk if it was a sweater or a sweaterdress. She said it was a VERY short sweaterdress, but was one, and if we wanted it. Needless to say it came home with us. Sometimes my wife will temper the look with a pair of legging underneath, but on some dates... she will wear it by itself even if it is very short. So she has been thinking it would look good with over-the-knee boots. Sorry to hear about your pending layoff. Where I was working, the company just sold it to another owner who has every intention of tearing the facility down. It will remain in operation for a few years, but I have no interest in riding a dying horse. Again I am sorry for your economic downfall of pending doom.

It's circus stuff, and who doesn't love a circus? I'm always a sucker for watching stuff like this. I also like the videos, and there are many out there, where a woman walks on wine bottles in pointe shoes. And I don't even like pointe shoes all that much.

I have multiple reasons for full-body shaving, but one of them is because my wife and I were competitive swimmers. I know some ladies would probably think its odd to see a man fully shaven, but for her its not because swim teams often have "shaving parties" for swimmers just before major swim meets. She is used to seeing men completely hairless. Whether or not you actually get meaningful faster swim times I am not so convinced of. Myself, I think it will gain popularity. I just shave, but just because I am cheap and it is quick and easy. Once it's done that first time, it only takes a few minutes to keep the hair off.

Don't get me wrong--I have several pairs of mid heels that I wear fairly regularly, but I am not consumed by the desire to expand the collection. I wear them around the house, I wear them to work the farmer's market, and yes, I have even occasionally worn them to choir rehearsal. I also have several pairs of mid heels that I never wear, and at the moment I can't think of why I would ever wear them again. Do I wish I had a more neutral color of mid heeled sandal? Yes, but I'm not going to go to a great deal of trouble to find some. I expect to be laid off any week now, but no one knows the day or the hour when the thief will come. I suppose the office people do, but they ain't sayin'.

I’ve driven a Fiat Punto, not in heels, and I didn’t feel comfortable with the pedals either

What a cool story! She obviously knows her heels if she had a pair of Louboutin Pigalles in her wardrobe and it's nice to think you got her interested in bringing them back out again. It is also quite a compliment to your abilities in the Hot Chicks. The fact that you could do a few turns around the block in them is a wonderful feat in itself, but to do so looking so graceful that an onlooker is inspired to want get out her Louboutins and think about wearing them again is the best kind of compliment you could have. Not many people can walk so fluidly in Hot Chicks that other people want to take up wearing heels as a result.

I already did a few walks around the block in the Hot Chicks. This is the best (and hardest) training so far. Yesterday I had a funny experience. I'm doing my walks in the evening, it's mostly already dark outside and not much going on. But yesterday a neighbour was in the garden and she saw me walking by. At first she just greeted me normally, but then she had a wondering second glance and said: "Wow, they're especially high today". We then had a little conversation and it turns out she also has a pair of Louboutins, the Pigalle 100. She said she doesn't really wear them anymore, but I made her curious to get them out again 😉

@Shyheels That's a good idea! No, it was a Fiat Punto. I can't recall what exactly the problem was, it just didn't feel good. It might as well have been the car in general, but I didn't drive it in flats so I can't say for sure.

I once wrote a novel where the murder weapon ended up being a stiletto heel. This husband and wife were going on a dinner date when they stopped by to pick up a check from a con artist. Things played out and realizing they were being scammed, the woman got so incensed she struck at the man connecting with his corraded artery in his neck, killing him. Well, I write fiction, but I had to wonder if this ever happened so I looked it up. You only need to ask Ana Trujillo of Texas who had stabbed her boyfriend, Dr. Andersson 25 times with her size nine, five-inch, blue suede high-heeled pump. By the time paramedics arrived it was too late to save the doctor. She was sentenced to life in prison where she now wears flip flops and not high heels... thankfully.

Was it a Honda CR-V? The wife has one, and just the way the gas pedal is, I have to turn my foot at an odd cant to push on the gas. It works, but on longer drives it really can start to pain my foot. On really long drives it causes it to cramp. And like someone else said, the modern cars, including the Honda CR-V in this country anyway, has a variable transmission, so cruise control does not work great on it at all. It can never find an idea shift point because it is not locked into a particular gear.

Oh, okay. That is very interesting. I would have never considered the unavailability of high quality, high heeled shoes at a reasonable price. It makes sense though. I am sorry that you can't find those heels and are working so many hours. I got the opposite problem: I am in between jobs and in between different houses (the movers come on Thursday) so I don't have a lot going on.

Many years ago, I told myself I would get earrings when my mother died, it would kill her (I thought). Now she is well over 100, I wonder if I will ever to it. Having hairless bodies is a function of gyms and tattoos. That 'cute girl' tattoo is not as cute when it is hairy. I need sections of my body hairless to tape, so I get waxed regularly.

If piercing your belly button is a pain in the neck you missed the target by a bunch! 😁

We have indeed wandered far from the beaten path! And I’m gonna continue wandering for just a bit. About mlroseplant’s inclination to get a belly button piercing - for some reason, I’ve long been fascinated with the notion of an earring or earrings. Now obviously, that one would be impossible to keep a secret for long, but the notion endures. And the aforementioned nail tech, and my massage therapist (and dear friend,) have, unsolicited, both fueled that small flame 🙂 Now, whether painted nails, leggings, belly button rings, earrings, whatever - I’m a (retired) engineer with not a notion of understanding the inner workings of the human mind, but this conversation about quietly stepping out of the traditional boxes brings to mind a quip I’ve heard attributed to the late, famous Will Rogers, “Oklahomans will vote dry as long as they can stagger to the polls.” Regards, Logjam

I drive in heels all the time. No problem with that. Since I normally do not wear stilettos but block or stacked heels, it doesn't present a problem with me. Yesterday for example I wore a pair of small 3-1/2 " block heel , loafer pumps to church, then went out in the afternoon wearing a pair of black knee boots with 3-1/2" stacked heels. a pink skort above the knee, with a black polo shirt with a pink Breast Cancer Awareness logo on it. Got a couple compliments on my ensemble while I was out doing some Sunday shopping. Happy Heeling, bluejay

Same. But in reading your comment the idea suddenly came to me that if I got my bike out of storage, I could put on my heels and pedal up the towpath to a place where I could go for a stroll and get in some real world practice. Not cycling in heels for thrills, but for a practical reason.

Not my thing, but I appreciate the skill!

Cycling in heels is very comfortable because it's basically the same as cyling without heels, as only the front part of the feet touch the pedals. But the same as for driving a car: I wouldn't choose heels for the thrills, it's just more practical to keep them on. I also once had a rental which didn't feel that good in heels. But it might have also been in flats as well...

That’s true, there is little in the way of genuinely high heels unless you are paying Louboutin prices. I quite like mid heel boots but even there, I’m seeing where mid heel is now reckoned to be about two inches, or 5cm, and “high” heels are 7cm. i would want 8cm at least for my mid heel boots but they are rare and tend to be pretty ugly when I do see some.

As promised here is a cropped picture of them...

To answer your question… whether it be getting a belly-button piercing or shaving a huge portion of your body, despite it not being seen by others there is a very tangible benefit… you see it. That in and of itself is self-care. But that need not be in and of itself. For instance, I shave from the neck down, which is a secret no one really knows about me. But there is more to it than just disliking body hair. I like how it makes me feel cooler in the summer, and how shaving greatly reduces body odor. It takes some time to accomplish, but a reality is, once its shaven it takes very little time to keep shaving. For me, all that is worth doing and even if no one sees that, it still has tangible benefits. I am by no means trying to convince you to get a belly-button piercing at all here, but that too can have self-care properties to it with no need to show it off. Myself personally, I have a HUGE interest in integrity, which is following through with what I say I am going to do. So for me, if I had deemed that was something I would do after obtaining a flat stomach (a lofty accomplishment by the way), I would feel less about myself for not following through with the rest of it. But that is me, and only me; I have a huge amount of self-discipline. It is called second-order thinking. If I declare to myself I am going to pierce my belly button, and then don’t, it makes it easier to not go through with further declarations down the road. No… I will do it. I might not keep it pierced, but I will do what I said I would do. But that is just me, I want to be true to myself which has an inverse action to it as well. I won't lightly make a declaration like that from the start because I will have to do what I say I will do. But I suspect men who do secretive things do so for their own well-being. Some wear panties. Some paint their toes a bright color. Some wear leggings… all manner of things that make them feel good, and not to show others. I don’t fault men who say, ‘but why not show off what you do and to heck with what others think’, and to those I have great respect. But I also understand men who like doing or wearing something no one knows about too. They don’t have a need to rebel against societal norms openly, but they are doing it only for themselves. And that's the great thing about this thread, we realize statistically a lot of men are not cookie-cutter men... and that is a VERY good thing.