Van Posted June 14, 2002 Posted June 14, 2002 Hi , this text goes beyond shoes fashion and makes me wish I were younger and japanese ... Check this article : http://www.iht.com/IHT/SR/063099/sr063099b.html Cheers, Vanessa
ShockQueen Posted June 14, 2002 Posted June 14, 2002 From what I've seen, perhaps the Japanese were just quicker to accelerate the trend that is growing all over! I think it's great, myself! SQ.....still busting societal molds with a smile...and a 50-ton sledge!
alfheel Posted June 14, 2002 Posted June 14, 2002 I like that article... IMHO Japanese tend to be too much excessive, but there's always something to keep from any excess, so let's hope this time il will be miniskirts and high heels !
Nikk Posted June 14, 2002 Posted June 14, 2002 I've been to Japan quite a few times & over the past few years the platform boot/shoe seems to have become basic footweear for almost all women in the 16-30 age group, but normally hidden beneath colossal flares. On my last visit, there were lots of "yamanba" girls all wearing platform sandals with soles at least 3" thick and heels probably 6" - 8". Also some of the young guys were wearing boots with small heels, and ocasionally platforms. I wore my 4" ankle boots & also some wedges out & about in the evenings & provoked a lot of glances and some amusement. Had a few (apparently positive / interested) comments, but my Japanese was mostly too poor to engage in much conversation, and with one notable exception so was their English. Shame - some of the girls were VERY cute !
azraelle Posted June 14, 2002 Posted June 14, 2002 I'm going to have to take up Japanese...at least it's better than Spanish! "All that you can decide, is what to do with the time that is given you."--Gandalf, "Life is not tried, it is merely survived -If you're standing outside the fire."--Garth Brooks
DandyDude Posted June 14, 2002 Posted June 14, 2002 Anyone into Japanese Visual? "To kiss, pretty Saki, thy shoes' pretty tips, is better than kissing another girl's lips." -Omar Khayyam
shyguy Posted June 14, 2002 Posted June 14, 2002 This subject reminded me of a news story a few years ago about the Japanese when they latched onto Madonna. All the teenagers were dressing just like Madonna even the guys. They always seem to do things to the max. And why not? He was so narrow minded he could see through a keyhole with both eyes. Brown's Law: If the shoe fits, it's ugly
Van Posted June 14, 2002 Author Posted June 14, 2002 I would suggest you all have a look at some of the Japanese Pop Group esp. the "visual kei" or "visual rock" , they make Boy George look like a farmer boy. Cheers Vanessa
terayon Posted June 14, 2002 Posted June 14, 2002 id be excited, if it werent for the fact that article was written in 1999, and the website hasnt been updated since 1999...if that was a CNN article id be very happy
Firefox Posted June 15, 2002 Posted June 15, 2002 Who needs "trends" to justify doing something. Why do people have to act like a bunch of sheep...
terayon Posted June 15, 2002 Posted June 15, 2002 its mentally easier to do something that everyone else is doing...i personally hate it, but its true....if i had friends that wore high heels, id do it too...but i dont like being the oddball wierdo....its not that im a sheep, its that i like having friends
Firefox Posted June 15, 2002 Posted June 15, 2002 If you're saying your friends choose you by what you wear on your feet, they're friends I'd rather not have.
Gizmo Posted June 15, 2002 Posted June 15, 2002 I wonder when those trends will come to europe quite interesting anyone knows how to speed it up to come to europe faster ??????????
Bob Posted June 16, 2002 Posted June 16, 2002 Why wait until "the trend comes to europe"? Why not start the trend ourselves right now? To be a trend setter is quite literally to start something yourself, which means you're going to be the odd one out, possibly for quite a while! Man is born in freedom, but soon becomes enslaved, in cages of convention from the cradle to the grave - Jeff Waynes War Of The Worlds/Sung by David Essex
Dr. Shoe Posted June 16, 2002 Posted June 16, 2002 The artical would have been more convincing if there had been pictures. Graduate footwear designer able to advise and assist on modification and shoe making projects.
Yamyam Posted June 16, 2002 Posted June 16, 2002 On 2002-06-15 20:06, terayon wrote: its mentally easier to do something that everyone else is doing... Perhaps it comes with age, but sometimes it's easier to be different. I'm enjoying being anti-footy during the World Cup, personally. Perhaps it's just me being perverse, but I'm enjoying it. i personally hate it, but its true....if i had friends that wore high heels, id do it too...but i dont like being the oddball wierdo....its not that im a sheep, its that i like having friends I have friends who wear high heels. True, they are all women, but you never know. I've found that my real friends, the ones who'll stick by me whatever, have no problem with me in heels. When I was down in Stevenage last time, one friend had no problem walking over to the local Chinese with me, while I was in heels. He asked a few questions, but was just utterly cool with the whole thing. So, don't feel that it's "heels or friends - pick one". Real friends will accept you for who you are, not what you're wearing. And someone who'll fall out with you because of your shoes would probably fall out with you because your mobile phone (cellphone) isn't cool enough, or your car isn't right or something, or you're playing the wrong music. You'll never be the same as everyone else - why try? Obsessed is such a strong word. I prefer to think of myself as "differently enthusiastic"
terayon Posted June 16, 2002 Posted June 16, 2002 On 2002-06-15 20:49, Firefox wrote: If you're saying your friends choose you by what you wear on your feet, they're friends I'd rather not have. i disagree, my friends are all pretty good friends, but THEY also have friends of people who i may not like...its not that they would not be my friend because i wear heels, itd prolly be because they would also want to keep their other friends....its not a matter of someone sticking by you no matter what, because nobody likes to be a social outcast sticking up for what they believe in
ShockQueen Posted June 17, 2002 Posted June 17, 2002 Even social outcasts have friends, as I have been one myself many times. It's just a matter of finding friends who either are into the same things you are, or are cool about it in general. It can be done...it just takes effort. SQ.....still busting societal molds with a smile...and a 50-ton sledge!
Van Posted June 17, 2002 Author Posted June 17, 2002 The idea was to discuss japanese "visual art" fashion" but it seems the topic has moved to "friends", no problem. I do have a lot of different fields of interest in life and, consequently, various circles of friends. I can't ask all of them to have exactly the same tastes as I have. Should I drop all the friends who don't share my musical taste ? There wouldn't be that many left ... then if I have to drop those with somewhat conservative view on how a guy should dress, + those who do not like strange belgian beers (like gueuze, e.g.) or do not share my enthusiasm for late 19th Century decadent poetry ... I'll be left alone. Vanessa
Firefox Posted June 17, 2002 Posted June 17, 2002 Sorry Terayon I don't understand much of what you are saying there. Either your mates would disown you because you wear heels, or they wouldn't. In your first post you said you wouldn't have any friends if you wore heels, while in the second you say it wouldn't make much difference to them if you did. I suspect the latter is probably true. Back on topic, the Japan thing is a good idea, but I believe it's a few years ago, 1998/1999? That said, it doesn't matter when and where. Follow or develop your own similar style, why not?
Van Posted June 18, 2002 Author Posted June 18, 2002 On 2002-06-17 23:08, Firefox wrote: Back on topic, the Japan thing is a good idea, but I believe it's a few years ago, 1998/1999? That said, it doesn't matter when and where. Follow or develop your own similar style, why not? It seems the "visual kei" started around that time but it is still going strong from what i read in the various websites specialising in Japanese Rock/ Pop. Visually speaking, their main influences were Boy George and Kiss (who were themselves influenced by Kabuki, the world goes round in circle ...). However, the style never picked up outside of Japan / Far East. Too bad (perhaps not from a musical point of view, I love the look but can't stand the sound). Vanessa
Firefox Posted June 18, 2002 Posted June 18, 2002 Interesting you say the influnece was Boy George, because they are going maybe 20 years back to pick up on an idea. That' no bad thing of course, but often in the modern world trend development is more closely linked with recent ideas. Music culture has always had those very different styles, and when one combines that with the millenium, a time for alternatives is likely. But we are talking about trends again. If more people developed their own styles without regard to such things then nothing like this would be any sort of news.
Van Posted June 18, 2002 Author Posted June 18, 2002 Firefox, As for the constant reference to "trend", perhaps my english vocabulary is too limited. Just call it "fashion", "style" or whatever. Don't fool yourself, we're all following "trend", most unfortunate i daresay, but nevertheless the case. Vanessa
Driver8 Posted June 18, 2002 Posted June 18, 2002 Vanessa, there is a lot of subtlety about the idea of "trends" in the US and UK which I think might be hard to understand. "Trendy" is a bad word over here even with people who are following trends. Individualism is valued by the society, and even conformists don't like to be accused of not thinking for themselves. It's supposed to be a magical coincidence that someone's personal style just happens to be what everyone else is wearing this year.
Firefox Posted June 19, 2002 Posted June 19, 2002 Yes those geta things are interesting. Weren't the one toothed ones reputedly worn by some mythical creature? I wonder if they make high-heeled geta too. Probably not because it would defeat the whole principle, but maybe if they made the back tooth higher by an inch, it could work.
Driver8 Posted June 20, 2002 Posted June 20, 2002 I'm staring and staring at the picture and I can't understand what I am seeing! The top two items look like an aerial view of sandals lacking the strap, but I still can't figure out how the bottom two things could be used as shoes!
Firefox Posted June 20, 2002 Posted June 20, 2002 I think you have to learn to balance in them. It's like a circus act, but quite possible. If you consult the geta page, all will be revealed: http://www.egeorgeonline.com/getapage/
Firefox Posted June 21, 2002 Posted June 21, 2002 It sounds quite like riding a bike.... Apologies for the off topic geta stuff, but it sort of fits in the Japanese thread
stellah Posted June 25, 2002 Posted June 25, 2002 I wish more men would hve the guts to dress more freely and use their own taste. Yeah it would be cool when we had fashion like that for men here in Europe. But I don't care so much. I'll go out anyway and enjoy myself. We're haveing a party at my friendd's place and tonight I'll wear my leather pants and black knee-boots with 4 inch block heel and silver chains. For it's raining, I change the boots for 4.5 inch pumps inside... So far none of my friends wear highheels, but I hope I can get more to enjoy it. Together it's more fun. Some girls I have actually got into hh fetish. too. They didn't know they adored hh-s before I showed them my collection... Nose up, guys! Let's do out own fashion! _______________ HH forever!
Firefox Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 It's amazing how easy it is to do alternative stuff if you have done it before. You're "allowed to" because that's your image.
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