Narrowmindedness

[squirrelheels]

This is an MSN conversation I had with the brother of someone I once had a crush on (years ago). I found it so amusing I thought I'd post it here.

"Me" is obviously me, "Narrowminded" is him, and "Narrowminded's sister" is his sister, on whom I regrettably had a crush.

Enjoy scowling:

[14:50:39] NarrowMinded: hey u penis

[14:51:02] NarrowMinded: r u the one who dressed up as a girl

[14:51:09] Me: yeah

[14:51:15] NarrowMinded: omg ur such a f00b

[14:51:26] NarrowMinded: why did u do that

[14:51:39] Me: for a laugh

[14:51:48] NarrowMinded: i seen a pic of u and u look a total geek

[14:52:06] Me: does dressing up for one day have some sort of effect on my character or personality?

[14:52:17] NarrowMinded: yes makes u look a gay tosser

[14:52:18] Me: since when have looks dictated who someone is

[14:52:36] NarrowMinded: wow

[14:52:41] NarrowMinded: thts geek talk

[14:52:43] Me: and since when have looks dictated my sexual orientation or whether i masturbate or now

[14:52:50] NarrowMinded: :s

[14:52:53] Me: not*

[14:53:19] NarrowMinded: ooh......ok

[14:53:37] NarrowMinded: but u masterbate iff ur head

[14:54:02] NarrowMinded: off*

[14:54:23] NarrowMinded: anyway'z..... u must of got dissed bad

[14:54:37] Me: not really

[14:54:51] Me: it's only narrow minded imbosils like you that have problems with someone doing something like that for fun

[14:56:38] NarrowMinded: sorry but i hang around with normal people so does my sisters and her boyfriends its people like you.... who make my worry about where u stand in the sexual line <<-----Straight---------[Ed: Me]--------Bent------>

[14:56:57] Me: do you have a problem if i'm gay?

[14:57:03] NarrowMinded: and u wear high heels

[14:57:21] Me: ok, and an extra bit of rubber on shoes makes me homosexual now does it?

[14:57:30] NarrowMinded: yes it does

[14:57:36] Me: i see

[14:57:39] Me: on what basis?

[14:57:49] NarrowMinded: bent tosser wanting to be a woman

[14:58:00] Me: most gay men don't want to be women

[14:58:05] Me: strangely enough

[14:58:08] NarrowMinded: well ur different then

[14:59:00] Me: in addition, heels were originally part of male attire, and women never wore them

[14:59:17] NarrowMinded: so?

[14:59:32] NarrowMinded: excuses.....excuses

[14:59:39] Me: i fail to see how a bit of extra rubber can make me homosexual

[14:59:42] Me: so please explain it to me

[14:59:50] Me: i'm quite interested to hear how you worked that one

[14:59:53] Me: out

[15:00:17] NarrowMinded: ur a homo because... u dressed up as a woman, u were high heels and u act like a complete tosser

[15:00:33] Me: you have no idea how i act

[15:00:42] Me: and you still haven't explained to me how some extra rubber makes me gay

[15:00:48] NarrowMinded: i'm 14 i'm normal ur a 17 year old homo

[15:00:59] Me: actually i have a girlfriend, thanq very much

[15:01:09] NarrowMinded: bet she looks a man

[15:01:13] Me: not at all

[15:01:14] NarrowMinded: thts why ur going out with her

[15:01:26] Me: i could kiss her infront of you to prove a point, if you want

[15:01:38] NarrowMinded: bet u will be thinking of gay anal

[15:01:49] Me: i realise that your narrow little mind isn't capable of accepting new ideas

[15:01:52] NarrowMinded: freak show u and her i bet

[15:01:56] Me: don't worry, you'll grow up eventually

[15:02:17] NarrowMinded: dont worry u can be bent if u want its your decision...

[15:02:44] NarrowMinded: i have no problems with gays..its people like you who try and act that they aint gay

[15:03:00] Me: would you like me to admit that i'm gay?

[15:03:05] NarrowMinded: yes i would

[15:03:10] Me: would that keep your narrow mind happy?

[15:03:20] NarrowMinded: go on say it

[15:03:30] Me: give me 3 GOOD reasons

[15:03:31] NarrowMinded: admit it and i'll leave u alone

[15:03:37] Me: lol, why, when i'm not gay?

[15:03:47] NarrowMinded: lol at your ugly face

[15:03:54] NarrowMinded: i seen u

[15:03:56] NarrowMinded: man

[15:04:01] NarrowMinded: u looks damm ugly

[15:04:15] NarrowMinded: bi-sexual tbh

[15:05:04] NarrowMinded: 3 good reasons huh

[15:05:14] Me: you're making judgments about my persona when all you've seen is about 3 pictures of me dressed as a woman, and the knowledge that i wear heels... and on that you manage to scramble together ideas that i'm homosexual or bisexual, i want to be a woman, that i masturbate, that i'm ugly... goodness me, you've done quite well there

[15:05:21] NarrowMinded: give 3 good reasons that your not gay

[15:06:00] Me: i need 1 - i have a girlfriend... i think that's proof enough

[15:06:00] NarrowMinded: i seen more pictures of u

[15:06:07] Me: well whatever, i don't care.

[15:06:19] NarrowMinded: u have a girlfriend and shes a man

[15:06:25] Me: and you know this how?

[15:06:31] NarrowMinded: seen her

[15:06:39] Me: oh right

[15:06:40] Me: i see

[15:06:53] Me: and the fact she goes to an all girls school just proves that she's male, does it?

[15:07:04] NarrowMinded: yes i see ur a complete homo

[15:07:35] Me: can you please explain to me how you worked that one out?

[15:07:55] NarrowMinded: lets have a look at one of your photes boy george in the music collection i see..

[15:08:05] NarrowMinded: photos*

[15:08:56] Me: for the record, i don't have any music by boy george

[15:09:12] Me: even if i did, how does that make me gay?

[15:09:18] NarrowMinded: george micheal??

[15:09:28] Me: no

[15:09:45] NarrowMinded: kylie minogue?

[15:09:50] Me: no

[15:09:52] Me: definitely not

[15:10:00] NarrowMinded: jason donervan?

[15:10:16] NarrowMinded: simply red?

[15:10:20] NarrowMinded: i'm sure u do

[15:10:21] Me: nope

[15:10:26] Me: ok, so by your reckoning, i'm gay because i listen to music you don't like.... by the same token i could say that you're gay because you're talking to me

[15:10:40] NarrowMinded: u calling me gay

[15:10:45] Me: well, you are

[15:10:47] NarrowMinded: from the likesof u

[15:10:47] Me: aren't you?

[15:11:05] Me: i mean, let's face it, you're talking to someone who you think is gay! that must make you gay too!

[15:11:53] NarrowMinded: listen u gay fucking tosser ur the king of gayness i'm talking to u cuz your a completye shit head,, i;m 14 and i've fucked more women then you, u get boners at looking at lionel richie

[15:12:24] NarrowMinded: tbh all your contacts are men.. arent they

[15:12:36] Me: no

[15:12:40] NarrowMinded: everyone laughs at you

[15:12:42] Me: are you calling your sister a man?

[15:12:45] NarrowMinded: calls you homo

[15:12:53] NarrowMinded: so ur dissing my sister now

[15:13:03] Me: no, i'm asking you if you're calling her a man?

[15:13:11] Me: i mean if all of my contacts are male, she must be a man!

[15:13:32] NarrowMinded: sorry Mr.Clever Arse.... but u should talk to ben u see..... he reckons ur a homo doesnt he

[15:13:37] Me: good grief you're about as thick as the concrete walls of the channel tunnel

[15:13:45] NarrowMinded: lol @ u

[15:14:07] NarrowMinded: ur more bent then a roundabout

[15:14:35] Me: roundabouts are round, not bent, dipshit

[15:14:49] NarrowMinded: sadly my sister even disses u now how does that make u feel

[15:14:58] Me: i don't give a damn

[15:15:05] NarrowMinded: so do gays

[15:15:12] Me: i don't let what other people think affect me

[15:15:12] NarrowMinded’s sister: hey hey hey wots goin on?

[15:15:20] NarrowMinded: so ur gay then

[15:15:24] NarrowMinded’s sister: i leave 2 talk 2 rach and wot happens?

[15:15:31] Me: so, being slightly different makes me gay to?

[15:15:37] Me: too*

[15:15:40] NarrowMinded: slighty..

[15:15:45] NarrowMinded’s sister: ello?

[15:15:47] Me: hi soph

[15:15:49] NarrowMinded: thts an under statment

[15:15:50] NarrowMinded’s sister: any1 noticed i'm ere

[15:15:52] Me: yes

[15:15:53] NarrowMinded’s sister: thanq

[15:16:05] NarrowMinded’s sister: wots goin on?

[15:16:17] NarrowMinded: ross is dissing me hes calling me thick :'(

[15:16:26] NarrowMinded’s sister: ross did u say dat?

[15:16:39] Me: lol, yes i did... for a very good reason

[15:16:42] NarrowMinded: he called me gay too

[15:16:49] NarrowMinded’s sister: ross dont u dare diss my bro

[15:16:58] NarrowMinded’s sister: he was fixin my comp upstairs

[15:16:59] NarrowMinded: i'm gonan beat the gay tosser up

[15:17:04] Me: he said that all of the people on my contact list must be gay and male because i dresses as a girl

[15:17:09] NarrowMinded’s sister: now james calm down

[15:17:13] NarrowMinded’s sister: i no ur upset

[15:17:18] NarrowMinded: :'(\

[15:17:18] Me: which by his reckoning makes you male and gay, soph, sorry

[15:17:25] NarrowMinded’s sister: james?

[15:17:53] NarrowMinded: i kno but i'm sorry its just ross wants to be like you :'(

[15:18:07] NarrowMinded’s sister: ross ink u betta say sorry 2 jamews

[15:18:14] NarrowMinded’s sister: hes rlly upset u called him gay

[15:18:17] Me: lol

[15:18:20] Me: so he should be

[15:18:21] NarrowMinded’s sister: hes only young

[15:18:31] Me: that's no excuse for narrow-mindedness

[15:18:37] NarrowMinded’s sister: ross say sorry

[15:18:50] Me: only if he accepts that i'm not gay

[15:19:18] Me: and also if he accepts that extra rubber on a pair of shoes DOESN'T make someone gay

[15:19:25] NarrowMinded: ok ur not gay your a bi-sexual

[15:19:42] Me: 1/4 of the way there

[15:20:13] NarrowMinded: hahaha my sister left b4 u sed tht its u and me gayboy.... dont rape me i'm straight

[15:20:43] Me: don't worry, i have no interest in sex, of any kind, whether it's gay, anal, straight, oral, whatever

[15:20:54] NarrowMinded: ur such a sad-act your taking this so seriously wots the matter u dont want people to know the fact your gay?

[15:21:20] Me: if i was gay, i would be proud of it

[15:21:30] NarrowMinded: i've hit a nerve... u dont want sex at 17...... wots the matter cocks to smakk?

[15:21:32] Me: i'm straight, and proud of it. i wear heels, and i'm proud of it. what do i have to hide?

[15:21:40] NarrowMinded: a small cock?

[15:22:10] Me: i think you're the one who's making up for a lack in that department

[15:22:31] NarrowMinded: i can ensure tht the ladies think i'm not

[15:22:34] Me: i'm impressed as to how narrow minded you are... tell me, how do you get a mind THAT narrow?!

[15:22:39] NarrowMinded: wots your lil gay army got to say?

[15:22:53] Me: i have a gay army? wow... first i'd heard

[15:23:05] NarrowMinded: its a small one u c

[15:23:15] Me: right

[15:23:20] Me: i suppose you've met all of them, then

[15:23:28] NarrowMinded: youve made my day so nice thank-you

[15:23:35] Me: how have i made your day?

[15:23:45] Me: by proving that you're an ignorant narrow minded little squit?

[15:24:02] NarrowMinded: a squit?

[15:24:19] NarrowMinded: ur the lil midget who wears dresses to try and fit in with the girls

[15:24:25] Me: little midget?!

[15:24:30] Me: i wear heels and i'm a little midget?!

[15:24:43] NarrowMinded: thts wot most people do wear heels to be tall..

[15:24:45] Me: i'm 6ft1 without heels for Heaven's sake!

[15:24:52] Me: i dunno how you worked out "midget"

[15:25:03] NarrowMinded: am i meant to be scared of a gay computer geek?

[15:25:04] Me: the tape measure will vouch for my height

[15:25:26] Me: yes, because heels hurt when they're applied to bollocks... trust me on that one.

[15:25:38] Me: legs hurt too, btw... my friend can vouch for that

[15:25:56] NarrowMinded: ur taking this to serious u must be gay... most people would say fuck off.... you take it serious and get a wet blanket over it..

[15:26:38] Me: i'm not taking this seriously! i'm practically rolling in the aisles with laughter

[15:26:42] Me: you have amused me greatly

[15:26:52] NarrowMinded: go on batty boy.... gp to the gay bar i'm sure where u know where it is

[15:26:54] Me: although i'm not sure why narrowmindedness amuses me.... it just does

[15:27:05] NarrowMinded: ur laughing?

[15:27:14] NarrowMinded: everyones laughing at u not with u nerd!

[15:27:29] Me: i don't care if people laugh at me

[15:27:36] Me: i have the strength of character to take it

[15:27:39] *** NarrowMinded’s sister has left the conversation.

[15:27:44] NarrowMinded: bye gay boy

[15:27:54] Me: do you realise how insecure you are without even realising it?!

[15:27:59] Me: i'm not gone

[15:28:02] Me: i'm still here [conversation ends]

*sigh*

SH

[squirrelheels]

I should have mentioned... If anyone wants a translation of any words, I'll be happy to provide you with one! And also, some of the comments I made in there are dripping with sarcasm, and are not my actual views (such as extra rubber making me gay)... I was just trying (and failing it seems) to make a point. SH

[Bubba136]

what is a "tosser"? Besides, if this guy is only 14, what does he know about anything? Besides, I think he protests too much.

[squirrelheels]

"Toss" is British slang for the verb, masturbate. So a tosser is someone who masturbates. Hence the comment I made after he said it. SH

[Gizmo]

quite funny but what is that phrase ---- cocks to smakk ?? and squit ??

[terayon]

this kid sounds like a real fag and his sister like a stupid lil dyke....if i were you id kick this kids ass then when hes on the ground crying like a sissy girl you backhand pimpslap him in the face until he sobbingly admits that your not gay and that he has a small dick and really is the one who likes guys....be sure to lay out this beating while your in heels as to show that it doesnt bother you what he thinks...and then as your walking away start makin out with ur girlfriend just a suggestion mind you....

[Bubba136]

Whowoooo! That's really crude, Terayon! Might be a bit of an over reaction.

[squirrelheels]

Yes, indeed perhaps a bit of an over-reaction. But it would be amusing, nonetheless! "cocks to smakk" is a very bad mispelling of the question "cock's too small?"... tisk... when will people learn to SPEEL?! Squit, also meaning weakfish, which is a marine food and game fish found in North American Atlantic waters. I used it in a derogatory fashion. I was almost certain it wouldn't be in his vocabulary, so I'm fairly safe on that one. I was tempted to define it to him as a drop of semen, just so he could understand what I thought of him, but decided against that plan. SH

[shyguy]

Over reaction and it would be stooping to the low level he is at too. Proves nothing if you beat him, proves everything if you're big enough to front up and show his words can't hurt or change your views. Shyguy

[PJ]

I suspect that due to this kid's immaturity and bias, he would misinterpret your lack of physical aggression as another sign of being gay. Eventually when he gets older, he may come to realize this. And even if you decided to give him a beating, being humiliated by what he considers to be a gay person would be devastating for him and make matters only worse.

[Yamyam]

I agree. Leave him to it. Some narrow minds can't be enlarged, even with power tools Besides also, a 17 year old arguing with a 14 year old is a somewhat uneven dispute, I think. Sometimes the winning move is not to play (yeah, so I'm old enough to remember Wargames the movie, but even so it's true).

[azraelle]

15:23:45] Me: by proving that you're an ignorant narrow minded little squit?

[15:24:02] NarrowMinded: a squit?

Squit, also meaning weakfish, which is a marine food and game fish found in North American Atlantic waters. I used it in a derogatory fashion. I was almost certain it wouldn't be in his vocabulary, so I'm fairly safe on that one. I was tempted to define it to him as a drop of semen, just so he could understand what I thought of him, but decided against that plan.

My first thought was "squit" = "Coney Island Whitefish", e.g. a used prophelactic!

I look at it this way:

Girls don't (in general) care for anal intercourse, so why should it be inferred that a guy wearing girls' clothes (or boots) likes or wants it??

[sohoboot]

I find that most people who aren't confident in their own sexuality are the first to accuse others of being different... And having played football in high school, I can safely vouch that the more a guy brags about the size of his dick and/or demeans another person's manhood, the smaller they actually are (not that I'm gay, you just happen to notice things things when you're all in the same shower after practice). Chances are this kid really isn't narrowminded though, simply ignorant. He's only 14 and doesn't have any real knowledge other than what he's been taught. Because of his age, he certainly doesn't have much experience with the world outside of his comfort zone. Perhaps, on some level, he's jealous because you actually refuse to succumb to the rules while he doesn't think he can. I probably would have brought up the names of some VERY straight guys who've worn heels over the years (bands like Kiss, most of the hair bands of the 80s (even wearing makeup, scarves and other "female" things), how if you go to a hospital, you'll almost always see male doctors (especially surgeons) in rubber clogs, etc). Does he have an ear pierced or anything like that (or even any of his close friends) which you can point out the absurdity of calling you gay for wearing something society deems feminine when he does the same? Ask him if Freddie Mercury or Rob Halford sleeping with lots of women at one point made them straight. Finally, what's so gay about masturbation? 95% of guys masturbate, the other 5% just lie about it. Maybe throw in some medical aspects too... some people have to wear prosthetics to keep their back straight or ankle from twisting. Heels are a cheap way to help keep your posture straight - I'll find that I'm more prone to back aches if I'm wearing sneakers all day rather than heels, simply because they force me to walk more upright rather than slouch. One of my very big enjoyments in life is to debate people, especially those I find ignorant on a given subject (anything from wearing the heels to computers to politics). The only thing that would hold me back if I were you was that he might be too easy of a target.

[squirrelheels]

Yeah. I have no intention of beating him up or anything like that. I'm just gonna leave him to it. I doubt (and hope) I'll never speak to him again. I shall just have to hope that he grows out of it. Not that it'll affect me... although it'd be nice if he contacted me in a few years once he's done a bit of growing up, and once his voice has broken, and said "you know, I think it's great you stick up for what you believe in". Haha! How likely is that?!

Besides also, a 17 year old arguing with a 14 year old is a somewhat uneven dispute, I think. Sometimes the winning move is not to play (yeah, so I'm old enough to remember Wargames the movie, but even so it's true).

Ok, so it is somewhat unfair, even if he thought he was winning (he's only kidding himself). But I enjoy winning an argument every now and then, even if it is a bit one sided! I enjoy it more when the other side think they're winning when they're quite blatantly not.

Ok, I'd best stop before my head gets any bigger.

But what really gets me is people with narrow minds like him. Grrrrrr!

SH

[dheel]

I'm surprised how long you talked to him - idiots like that don't even deserve the dignity of a response. I would have just said "fuck off" or something and left it at that. One thing I've learned is that you can't convince irrational people to think rationally. You just have to dismiss them as insignificant, because that's what they are.

[mk4625]

This was sometimes a problem in school. Only my size spared me from being bullied excessively.

I didn't wear high heels in school (that wasn't even allowed for boys). But I hung out with guys who were somewhat feminized. Our clothing was a little closer fitting that might be appropriate for boys, with lots of leather. Most of us had girlfriends although a few of the guys turned out to be gay.

The "jocks" harassed us the least. It was nearly always the case that the bullies were wormy little guys who did poorly in everything. I had a few run-ins with one guy and bounced him every time.

Question: If you are 6 feet tall and weigh 160 lbs what right does that give you to beat up a kid who is 5 ft 1 and weighs 95 lbs?

Answer: If you are 5 ft 1 and weigh only 95 lbs does that give you the right to call someone (gay or not) a fag?

Every time I let the insect off easy, but I often fantasized about giving him a good spike-heel enema.

[Julietta]

Stick and stones... He's only 14 and a lot of pubescent teenagers go through that confusing sexuality stage. My guess is he is confused himself as to whether he is gay or straight. Makes me glad I'm not at that alien age anymore All power to you Squirrel you stuck by your guns and kept your cool

[BabeinHeels]

I put people like that on ignore almost immediately (even though I'm female, I get called a guy in heels all the time on chat). It isn't the time or energy to deal with idiots. XO Babe in Heels

[BabeinHeels]

Monday morning fog! lol Not "worth the" time or energy. Didn't make sense the other way, lol.

[Bubba136]

SH wrote:

I enjoy winning an argument every now and then

Save your arguments for the debating team.

When you're 14 you want to be 25. So, you look, act and speak like the older guys, stand around on street corners smoking, cussing and spitting. Hooting at all the normal people passing by and trying to act like they're someone to be "reconded" with. It's part of the modern "ghettoization" of western society. The more you act like a "shithead" these days, the more "respect" others supposedly will give you. Kick your girlfriend in the crotch, call her a bitch and a whore, disrespect her in the most foul and nasty way as you can by letting her know that you're the "baddest" man in town. (Hey, given the mindset of chicks these days, they will "love" you all the more. Most of them are just as nuts as the guys.)

This twit hasn't got the slightest idea what he's talking about. He's simply regurgitating all of the "catch phrases" he's heard the "big boy's" say. Ask him to spell "homosexual" and I doubt he can, let alone define it. As for changing as he grows older, unless his parents are aware of his conduct and "land on him hard and fast," his mindset is set for life.

[Francis]

I'd agree that this kid's mind can't be expanded with power tools, but it would give his no-brainer mind a breath of fresh air Personally, I would go round and twat the be-Jesus out of him. instead of asking him to spell homosexual, ask him what a homophobe is. I bet he won't even be close! It really is a shame that the next gen of computer users are such ignorant, lame, no-brain shites to ever walk the planet that they have to use obscenities and purposely diss people in order to make them feel good. Remember the first episode of "Auf Wiedersehen, Pet" (latest Texan adventure) when they go looking for one of the gang and find that he makes a living as a drag queen. On the way out of the dressing room, a guy comes up and calls him all the names under the sun. The drag queen, now in full male attire, then lays the guy out with a single punch and turns round and says "Not bad for a poof, eh?" Pound the twerp into the deck and threaten to continue to do it every week until he grows up. There's no excuse for narrowmindedness and this kid amply demonstrates it. 14 years old! I wouldn't let him live to see 14.5, never mind 15! Sorry about the violent rant, but it really does P155 me off when ignorance of this kind is shown by those who know nothing. Saying that, I bet this kid thinks "Johnny English" was hilarious!

[mk4625]

It really is a shame that the next gen of computer users...

They were around in 1970 too.

My violent thoughts don't (usually) materialize into concrete action. Otherwise that kid would still be walking bowlegged after 33 years. I think he probably carries enough scars from having his ass kicked by a "fag".

I have so little patience with bigots. They can't be reasoned with. They can't comprehend irony. Therefore you cannot win an argument with them except in your own mind. Smartest thing to do is kick their sorry asses, it's the only language they understand. But first make sure there aren't any cops around.

[Bubba136]

I guess this kid's fortunate he doesn't live where some of us could get to him.

[girl from mars]

So, is that bit about Lionel Ritchie true then squirrelheels?