kikepa

I've gotten it with eye looks. Never voice.

I like goth, too, but not overboard. More for the black, the long capes/robes, wearing sunglasses at night, and occasionally heels. It seems like when I'm gothed I can get away with pretty much anything, as it's sort of expected. I don't hang with the goth crowd, though.

Perhaps, in Europe, men's heels up to 2 inches are more usual than in the colonies!!

I've never had to remove my shoes flying overseas. Only in America.

"...a pair of custom-made man boots, or "moots" as they're calling them..." "Moots?" I think I'm going to puke on some Uggs...

So, Bubba, do we long for the old days, or be happy that we can walk in public while wearing high heels and no one says much of anything? Tough choice, but personally, I think times were much better in the 50s & early 60s than what we have today. The world was a kinder, more gentle place in which to live (and the heels were kinda nice in those years too!...lol).

Man, I can't agree. Although born in the 60s, even then people were looked down on for being different, even though "different" was as benign as having longer hair, wearing a colorful shirt, or bell-bottomed jeans. We've been in an ever-increasing acceptance of things further from the norm.

If I were a straight-laced, short-haired, suit and tied engineer with a slide rule and a pencil protector, sure - I'd love to go back to the 50s. And people were much more polite then - so long as you fit in.

As a long-haired, earring and heel-wearing guy who wears androgynous clothing, I wouldn't want to go back at all. I'd either be kicked out of town, or thrown in jail by a judge intent on helping me "straighten up and fly right" simply because my choice of attire is ruled as a dredge on society. If not beat, ridiculed, used for target practice, or an opportunity for the pent-up to vent their frustrations in life.

No way.

We're firmly in the 21st Century, and I'm here to stay.

Speaking of Monty Python, I believe a three-person skit is in order. A ham, a heeler, and a stamp collector. All three are talking about their respective interests with both passion as well as embarrasment. Their comments are nearly identical, but the only difference is they're mentioning their different interests.

Funny! But where were the heels?

Restuarants do not require shoes for health code issues, but for liability reasons. They snuck it through the health code back door decades ago because there's a grain of truth to that. What they were really concerned about was getting sued when someone's open toe gets jammed on the door sill, or stepped on by someone else in line. Since most people respect health codes (who wants to get sick, right?) it carries more weight than a restuarant-only "right to refuse service" to barefoot individuals.

Hey guys, I hope I'm not out of line with this post. But after mentioning my street heeler site to a woman friend of mine who stereotypically said "the guy must have been gay" Got me wondering where I, being straight, fit in all this.

So if it's cool with all of you, I'm making a poll.

It's cool with me. After nearly a year of voting and more than 300 votes, it appears cool with the 78.9% of the voters, too. That's 4 otu of 5. Reminds me of "4 out of 5 doctors says..."

Well, "4 out of 5 men who wear heels say, 'We're not gay.'"

I think that says it rather well.

Get well! Alsheels' right - let it heel. Do, however, work its flexibility after about 3 to 5 days, but go easy, and don't do it under load (no heeling).

I've always had better taste than her when it came to fashion, either mine or hers. Whenever I let her pick my clothes I felt uncomfortable and looked worse.

Hmm, I'm beggining to expirement. I think I am currently in the mood for a male/androgynous style.

I like elements from both, but complementary, not clashing. The blue plaid skirt/kilt was perfect, as plaid skirt/kilt looks natural on a guy, as does long black jacket.

I have an ankle-length "dress" that looks like nothing more than a high-collared dress robe (mandarin?). No frills. I wear it to the movies over jeans all the time.

I've worn heels with it a couple of times, but not when it's busy.

I drive in heels. A lot. For a long time it was the only "out" place I'd wear heels. No accidents. Drive to a secluded spot, get out, walk around, and have fun! That's what I do.

Kekapa:-)

I have noticed that the more expensive boots and shoes seem to have a smooth sole and the more inexpensive ones have the ribbed sole. I pefer the ribbed sole myself for more all around wear.

Cheers---

Dawn HH

That's coz the rich can drive while we have to walk!

What I meant, was, "wear what you want." Just wear what you want, because that's what you like, not to think you have to advance some agenda.

You'll be happier, others will be happier.

I've rarely been turned on by the trappings. It's what's in them that I tune in to!

It's us who form the society, and can take the responsibility to change it.

Well, sure. But advancing more feminine, or less feminine (either way) isn't what helps. Wearing what you like to wear and feel good and comfortable wearing will.

I see no difference between a 2inch black chunky heeled pump and a five inch pink stiletto slingback.

Have you tried revising your opinion in front of a mirror? They look very different to me.

Most of societies perception is that they are female attire, these two shoes are equally feminine in my mind and I will wear either.

As above, it's what you like and enjoy and are comfortable wearing that makes the difference.

I am glad you are wearing what you want.

I have found over time wearing heels that people look at you no matter what.

I have found that with some styles, it's nothing. With others, they get lots of glances.

Coordinated looks etc.. can be accepted...

Always, and they're the ones that garner the least looks.

I have noticed that a lot more guys are wearing heels in the fetish clubs and I don't think it will be more than another 8 years before we are seeing them more on the street.

I went to Club Rub about the same time I joined this forum and apart from the trannies, I was the only guy in heels there, now it's more like 50-60%...

I'm not much of a clubber, but I wore heels to a transgender club eight years ago thinking I'd fit right in. It was either guys in drag, transexuals, or guys gawking at them. I went again last summer, and noticed maybe ten guys in heels out of about a hundred, and a handful wearing obviously androgynous (female, but not overtly so) clothing.

It's improvement.

I had a pair for a short while, but threw them out for bad fit and low heel.

Daytona, if you like them, go for them. Do realize that for $400, you can 3 to 10 pairs of nice, leather boots elsewhere.

Cool boots.

The first pics is great - nice blend.

Who knows? Maybe one of these days either society will have changed or I'll have a different job so that wearing heels at work wouldn't create the backlash that it would if I did it today.

Date last night.

Cute!

p.s. what was interesting is that she didn't rule out the possibility of dating a transgendered Male to Female. It's the grey areas in between that challenged her belief system about what was right and wrong.

It's always the 'tweeners, isn't it? As long as people stay put within well-developed and accepted stereotypes, it's ok. But when the lines blur...

It's time to let them blur!

I'm sort of in a "loose" relationship. She's pretty accepting, and has no problems going out with me when I'm wearing heels. Personally, I think she's a bit of a flaunt, herself, with multiple earrings in each ear, yet she works in one of those "respectable" jobs. She first got my attention when someone mentioned a rock star who wears heels and smirked. She said, "at least he's comfortable in his sexuality!" On our first date, I simply picked her up wearing low heels. She noticed while we were waiting in line. She said "No way!" pretty loud, but she's cool, as she didn't draw any other attention to them yet managed an entire conversation about men/heels, women/pants, stupid social norms, etc. She said she feels very much the feminine girl, yet a a tomboy, got multiple piercings just because her mom told her no, thought of a tatoo, but didn't want to do something permanent just to prove a point. I like her, good friends. But we're both moving to different areas of the world, soon. I'm sure we'll keep in touch, and may even run into one another again.