Chorlini

On 9/25/2022 at 10:11 PM, Shyheels said:

Yes working from home has brought a lot of changes. I used to love all the travel that came with my work, now I am quite happy to be home. I think a lot of people are

People still work from home? My employer still allows it, the university I work at is more catholic then the pope in that regard, but he still wants me to be in the office 50% of the time and most people are back at their workplace fulltime. And whenever I am in traffic in rush hour it's worse then before covid.

I miss the days when we were just a small community of men and women who like to wear heels. Now the crazies are moving in in force and we better gatekeep the sh*t out of our community or we will go down with the Titanic with them.

I doubt that Louis XIV would wear a pair of So Kate's if he had them in his day. They would look too unmasculine. Which is saying a lot considering the fashion of that age.

I wear nothing below 11cm, preferably between 12 and 14cm, only at home. Sadly I have not worn much lately. I had sprained my ankle and anything requiring ankle flexibility hurt too much for me to wear any heels. Took me months to get healed and now I'm kinda out of the habit. The hot weather didn't help either. Then again I often have bouts where I rarely wear heels for a while. In the end it will come back. It always does.

19 hours ago, spikesmike said:

Chorlini : A place called " Shoebidoo " sells and ships high heel boots and shoes to the extreme from the Netherlands. I do not know if they have a show room or not. Either way, have you been there?      Mike

No, first time I check them out. I usually tend to ignore webstores like these as they barely tend to have anything over 4". Now I am intrigued.

8 hours ago, mlroseplant said:

I get what you're saying, but it is very difficult for many of us to ignore the details, and that's partially because we're already reached the Promised Land, to some degree or another. I do not personally know what it feels like to want to try some kind of style, just because it's in style. I'm trying to imagine a guy buying heels for the first time, saying to himself, "I'd kind of like to try that," having larger than woman-sized feet, and purchasing a pair of these Asos shoes. If they fit ok, he might like them, and purchase another pair at some point in the future. If they don't fit ok, he might well say, "Now I understand why women always bitch about their shoes. I can see that being able to wear high heels out and about is pure fantasy." And then never buy another pair again.

I realize that reviews are not the end-all solution to this problem, but they certainly do help in many ways. Some of this micro stuff is going to end up driving the macro world in the end, at least in the long term. If only one of us could be there to guide every potential newcomer to heels down the slippery slope of an inclined footbed!

It is not the promised land we have reached, but gender confused crazy land. As a side effect that means more choice in high heeled footwear and some acceptance wearing them in public. On the downside that means we are alphabet cult adjacent. And that may not be a place we want to be associated with. Especially when the MAP's get in.

I've ordered a pair of those recently. The biggest thing I had to beware of is the sizing, as a size UK9 is not a size EU43 but EU42. So I got a wide UK10 instead. And even that one is tight.

I agree. When it was still called beige it was a so and so color. Now that it's being called nude it's suddenly as essential as black and I have quite the number of pairs myself.

Ballerina flats are my go to slippers. If only because everything beats flipflops. I do not know the brand but ballerina flats are a dime a dozen. Even the foldup once. Easy to get everywhere

6" heels with size 15 feet is like the equivalent of 4" heels for people with small feet. Unless it's 6"heels with platforms. In which case she might as well be walking in flats.

It's about virtue signaling. It's not about making sense, or be productive, or actually solve any problems, it's about peacocking to the world what good moral human being that you are. To these clowns heels are something that dragqueens, thus gays and Alphabet people wear, so to them its about showing their support to the Alphabet brigade. Nothing to do with us. Hell, since we are normal dudes, who just like to wear heels, we can probably drop dead as far as they they are concerned. This was why I said when the first mainstream videos and articles about men in heels showed up that we should stay the hell away from these people. These are crazies that you do not want in your community as they will tear it down for their own politics. Just stay away and try to not get noticed. I'm a huge sci-fi nerd and all the major sci-fi franchises and their fanbases have been destroyed and torn up by them. Pray that they will never notice us.

On 5/23/2022 at 4:36 AM, Pumped said:

Both my mom and dad are old school conservatives. I had a conversation about men wearing women's clothing with my mom. Some show with men cross dressing on TV triggered it. I thought she was going to explode! Nothing but hate and vile coming out of her mouth. I mentioned I didn't care what people wear and if a man wanted to wear high heels or a dress I could care less. All I got back was a death stare!

My dad is equally closed on the subject. Any mention of alternate lifestyles and he just gets mean. I mentioned to him I knew a couple gays and I can not repeat what he said! If I wore heels around him I think it would end up in a hospital ER!

It probably doesn't help that the Alphabet Cult is pissing in our water, which means to conservatives any dude in skirts or heels is now a groomer.

On 4/28/2022 at 1:32 AM, Cali said:

Market driven, Law of Large Numbers. Do you want 50% of a small market or 5% of a huge market. If I write an entry level book and get 10% of the market, that could mean 500,000 copies sold whereas a high end book might get 80% of the market and sell only 30,000 copies.  The ideal situation is 80% of a large market. 

On the other, why ignore a growing market, as women are getting bigger feet, in favor of trying to catch a small corner of a heavily competitive market? Also, 10% of the main market would probably mean selling shoes for like what, $20 a pair, whereas 80% of that smaller market may demand a higher price because they have so little options. So big market, 500.000 times $20 a pair means you gross $10.000.000. Small market 30.000 times $120 per pair you gross $3.600.000. Assuming it costs $10 to make the cheap pairs it costs you $5.000.000 to produce your shoes. whereas the high small market shoes cost 3 times more to make, $30 a pair. It will cost you 900.000 to make. Throw in mass market marketing to reach that larger market segment, as you also have to compete with aggressive marketing from your competitors. Whereas if you own 80% of that small market, you don't have to do much marketing at all. In the end the profit margins on the mass market shoes will be quite low and those of the niche market will be much lower, so the final profit you can bank might be more identical for less effort. That has always been what differentiates the two business models. Niche market means you can demand niche prices. Mass market means you must ship a lot to make up for smaller margins.

On 4/28/2022 at 3:42 AM, Shyheels said:

Because heels higher than 12cm look tarty and fetishy 

I knew a woman who was a true expert in wearing heels - 120mm was her usual height - and she owned a pair of those but never wore them because she couldn’t walk well in them. I think also that few women like the look of heels that high. I know some who love heels but won’t go over 100mm because they say it creates the wrong impression.

That argument completely loses all value when you consider that the platform shows and knee high or tigh high boots these womens will still wear come straight out of the fetish scene. I think its less about tarty and fetishy and more about there's no way I can ever walk in those, so I'll give a socially accepted answer instead. Which is something that on average women are prone to do anyway. There's a reason why PUA's say don't listen to what women tell you, listen to what they do.

On 4/28/2022 at 12:18 PM, mlroseplant said:

Probably the reason why they look tarty and fetishy is because almost nobody can walk in them, and what good is a shoe if you can't actually walk in it? Bingo.

Not very many years ago, giant platformed monstrosities with 15 or 16 cm heels were quite fashionable (think Louboutin Daffodile, et al.). Those were not necessarily fetishy. Heck, pianist Yuja Wang to this day wears similar for every concert, even though she has toned the rest of her look down considerably from what it was pre-pandemic. I think a lot of it has to do with not actually being able to use single soled shoes over 12 cm for their intended purpose. I would be willing to bet money that even Ms. Wang could not negotiate Hot Chicks, as least not well enough to present them in public.

Giant platforms ARE fetishy. Came straight out of the stripper/pornstar scene from the middle 90's, when every stripper and/or pornstar wore them. Even today they are still part of the bread and butter stripper/pornstar/pole dancer stable. I reckon that the biggest reason why single sole heels are fetishy is because those people are the only ones willing to walk in them.

16 hours ago, Shyheels said:

I suspect this is because there are two entirely different markets. Ten and twelve centimetre heights are what you find on high street and with designers; fashion heels in other words. Above that you enter a different world entirely. Few designers go above that - and for a reason. The look becomes much less elegant and graceful and is overtly tarty and fetishy

I dunno, you may call anything above 12 cm tarty and fetishy, but the platform shoes that infest the market today come straight out of the strip clubs and porn movies. And high heeled boots used to the hallmark of BDSM mistresses. Now they are mainstream too. So if those can be mainstream, why not single soled shoes with heels higher then 12 cm?

21 hours ago, Pumped said:

Well, I imagine that 95% of shoe sales are size 41'ish and lower. It does suck to be a person with larger flippers. I am a nice size ten, or 40-41 depending on the manufacturer.

Rather shortsighted I would say, because women are getting bigger, and so are their feet. It might be 95% today, could by 90% tomorrow. That's 10% of the market you're flipping the finger too. And worse, that's going to be young women. The ones you want to get out of their comfy sneakers into your heels, as whoever gets the youth has the future

13 hours ago, vinheel said:

Italian sizes 

https://www.sharlenecalzature.it/fr/guida-alle-taglie/

This is a weird sizing system.

Suddenly even Aliexpress's sizing system makes sense. And that's next to impossible to figure out as every seller has its own system.

In this age of comfy footwear of sneakers, combat boots and flip flops, we NEED a day like this. Hell, we need a whole month.

8 hours ago, vinheel said:

Hey everybody, highheels lovers,

I just want to show you an online shop, prepare your eyes and your heart:

https://www.sharlenecalzature.it/fr/

Unless you have very small feet, EU41 or smaller, nothing of interest there. Another store which has yet to discover that people exist with larger feet then just EU41.

It is odd how above 10 cm the choices become erratic. There seems to be very little between 12cm and 14cm, which might make it a rather high increment for people to advance into. Italian heels has heels in 10, 12 and 15 cm, but nothing in 13 or 14 cm. Pleaser has shitloads of 10 cm, basically every platform shoe if you think away the platform, they have 12cm (Amuse range), 14 cm (sexy range), 15 cm (domina range) but nothing in 13 cm range. Onlymaker has nothing above 12cm, and when you go on eBay it was all either 12 cm or 17,5 cm. Cause apparently every high heel fetishists aspires to wear 7" heels only. Although Aliexpress seems to have something in the 13 and 14 cm range these days. But they advertise it very badly, often you have to check the fine print. And still much luck figuring out their sizing,

On 4/22/2022 at 1:06 AM, Shyheels said:

It’s extremely rare here - to the point where I can say I’ve never seen it

I agree. Outside of runners I have yet to see a dude in leggings. And I live in a university city, so LOTS of liberal minded types.

17 hours ago, Cali said:

And here I thought this was going to be a gardening thread about the right way to raise a crop of heels nice and straight.

That would be a neat feat to behold.

9 hours ago, Pierre1961 said:

Italian heels is a very good brand. One complain : no new models or just one from time to time. And the price isn’t higher than some Chinese crap! 

Considering he is from Canada it probably IS very expensive for him. With shipping and getting robbed by Canadian customs.

When I started out 14cm or 5.5" was all that I could get in a fetish store in Amsterdam that I used to fine. So I learned to walk in them. Luckily, or probably not as I can't fit into more normal shoes then fetish shoes, my feet are large. Just larger then the biggest sizes you can find in normal shoe stores. So a larger 5.5" heel for my size EU43 feet feels probably like a 4"or 4.5" heel to people with smaller feet. 5 inches feel really comfortable to walk in for me, I could do it all day if I wanted too. Anything below 5" feels like comfy shoes to me, so of no interest to me. On the downside my ankle flexibility is terrible, so 6" is straining it and I never managed to straighten out my ankles in 7" or ballet heels, so I gave up on trying and playing with those.

First wear is always a special affair. Will they fit? Can I make them fit? Will they pinch? Sometimes you think there's no way I can fit in them and they fit comfortably. And sometimes they won't fit even though they look like Shaquille O'Neill could wear them.

I haven't worn hose or stockings in years. I'm all bare feet into pumps and boots kinda guy. I do love me a good pair of leather look leggings though.

Probably not if the purpose is to meet people in person.