Pumped

Also one thing that many do not realize is the Bible as most Christians know it was put together by the Catholic church some where around the 12 century. The fathers decided what was proper for the general public to read and put in books and left out books for various reasons. Google "books of the Apocrypha".

I didnt realize how many believers this site had. Its good to see!

-Ilk.

Actually, I am a bit of an agnostic. I believe there may be a surpreme being, but not sure if that being is God, or just someone more powerful than man.

A few years ago I had someone give me a hard time for my beiiefs and was told that I should read the Bible. Well I had, the King James version and the New International version, both read completely, cover to cover. Plus I have done a fair amount of Bible study.

I may be an agnostic, a agnostic that has studied!

It's cute, but the cat knew where the bell was all the time. The cat could hear it.

Hear and/or smell.

I have seen other explainations that the verses are speaking of garments that men and women wore only during times of prayer and not specifcally men's or women's clothing in general, but what do I know!

i never wanted to be a girl. I just wanted to wear heels as a man.

Same here. I don't want to be a woman, I love being a man. Bsides, If I was a woman I would be a flaming lesbian as I love women!

I just wish men's fashion was not so bland. I really have no desire to were womans' clothing, just very envious of the range of styles, colors, and shoes.

I like the hidden platform of say about an inch, so 5" heels with 1" platform are ideal. For example, look up/Google Jessica Simpson Francesca heel. mmmm yummy. That's my favorite!

Nice! Love the shape of the heel.

I am just envious of womans styles in general. A woman can wear pretty much anything she wants, where a male is stuck wearing the same old men's fashion unless he is willing to cross the line like some do here. I have been looking for a pair of men's dress shoes, the selection is simply terrible. Variations on 4-5 differant styles is about all. Brown and black, take you pick. And who was the designer that thought the toe on men's shoes should be twice as long as it needs to be, then make 1/2 the styles out there with this elongated toe? Sillyest thing I ever saw. Years ago I had a pair of cuban heels made on ostrich hide. Try find something like that now.

Kmart must stock based on regional sales and demands. The one near me is worthless unless your buying fuzzy slippers, sneakers, and sweatpants. The only real shopping places near me is Walmart and Kmart, so the local selections basically suck. Even the Payless seems to trend toward the "trailer mentality".

I noticed that this week. I traveled from the city I live in to, well, lets say less populated area of the state. I happened to pop into a Walmart and while I was there I checked out the shoes, or lack of in this case. The womans shoes was one tiny isle, and not one high heel in the mix. Where I live Walmart has a fair selection of heels. Not that Walmart is my choice for shoes, but just an observation.

Pumped, I just wanted to kind of offer a bit of insite to you on this comment. While this is just my opinion and please don't take offense to this. I use to work in a profession (EMT) where I thought the same as you. Then one day I figured out this. I what we do in are off time and off the clock and off of company time is are own biz. Now sure if your coworkers seen you out and about in heels you may get greef, but that's about it. Most people are not dumb enough to translate that to work because if they do well then the game changes. I had a situation awhile back where a coworker found out about the way I dressed from someone else and found some pictures of me and sent them out to everyone I worked with. Now sure I could have easily gotten him in a lot of trouble but he did me a favor. When people would ask me about it and how I dreessed I told them the truth and did not lie. Not only did I gain more respect, but no one cared what I was wearing. From a legal stand point there is nothing anyone can say or do as long as you are not breaking any company rules as far as social networking goes. So please don't let the fear of your job stop you from being true to yourself. Just my 2 cents.

Steve

For me the risk is just not worth it. No matter if my employer has any legal stance or not. Actually where I live the state employment laws state you can be let go without cause or reason but it does no affect my decision. Also the posible loss of credibility to my customers far out weighs the need to wear outside the home. We all make decisions based on the importance of the decision and what the end result may be. For me it is very simple. Although I like heels, they can stay behind closed doors, no need to go out with them.

I like 1" platforms with a stiletto heel, no thick clunky heels for me! Any higher than a 1" platform and my interest drops as the platform gets higher.

I must admit I don't understand the reason for it, as the Dr said it's Dracula, werewolves and the like over here.

State side the Halloween partys tend to bring out the slutty school girl custumes, hooker outfits and the like. I have seen more than one guy in a dress and heels. If my wife was more supportive I probably would try the dress and heels. I think it would be fun! I even thought of wearing a men's three piece suit and my 5 1/2" heels for a more subtile custume and see if people would even notice. Halloween people tend to relax and let thier crazy side out and for the most part anything goes.

OK, I can accept that there are some jobs where you might be taking a risk with your employment by being seen in heels. ................ Beyond that I cannot think of any profession where you would actually lose your job because of heeling. I can also accept that colleagues in a male dominated, macho work environment may make things difficult at work.

However, it is your choice whether you wear heels in public or not, no one's going to put a gun to your head and force you to do it. If you want to, do it. If not, don't..

You hit the nail right on the head. I work in sales, selling to companies in the construction business. Male dominated? About 99% male would be a safe guess! My credibility would drop like a rock if someone witnessed my heeling and the word got out.

Others here have commented on changing jobs so one can heel. In my case it is setting priorities. Working a job I enjoy, at pay that is darned good to say the least, for a company where my employers are some where between awesome and freaking fantastic to work for is far more important to me than wearing heels outside.

we're all going to die boys. get busy with the living, high heels included.

Maybe you have a profession that is easy to replace, or work some where that the unusual is easily accepted, but not here. Once I had a nice pair of men's Itailian dress shoes with a cuban heel, nothing crazy compared to what people wear on this site and I got a load of grief about them from many people, "What are those? woman's shoes??".

This area is sooo extremely conservative and boring when it comes to clothing. My wife and I will dress up a bit to go out Friday night and we will be the only ones there not wearing tennis shoes and jeans. A man wearing heels? Ha!

As for living, I do plenty other things that many here would find stange, so pick your battle, or poison.

Scared? Nope! I have just made a decision that it is not worth the risk. I don't think my close friends would have an issue, but I am certain my work associates would an I can not afford to take the chance.

For me confidence has nothing to do with it. I am not going to risk ridicule just to wear heels in public. There is no way I could wear them daily on my job, no question about it. So I am not about to risk my friends and employment over my interest in heels. To me it is just a simple decision of weighing the risk and no matter how tiny the risk is it is not worth it.

It all depends on each other's personalities, wants, and dislikes. You had a problem with 11 cats, but the next guy she runs into may think 11 is not enough. Some will acept you love of shoes, some will not. You just need to find the right mix. My wife likes shoes as much as me, but she is not real sure about me wearing them, but as long as I keep the shoes at home and between us she is ok with it.

I usually do, but just because I have them on any way. I wear heels most everyday at home.

Pumped, I feel you handled yourself well enough to make your point and put this buffoon in her place but got the partygoers to laugh and without offend the woman's husband. The only thing I disagree with your decision NOT to wear heels in public because of people like this.

If I could find a reasonable pair on shoes similar to what I had at that time I would wear them. I would not have a problem wearing a low heel, 1-1/2 inches. I just will not wear an obvious woman's shoe, not in this area! Too red neck! Around here wearing woman's heels would be a good enough reason for some guys in a bar to beat someone up. Also I just don't want to deal with the possible flack if work acquaintances found out. There is another thread already of work related problems due to heel wearing. I have made a decision that wearing heels is not as important as my job!

A few years ago i was at a friends place and party. I was wearing a stylish Italian men's shoe with a 1-1/2 inch Cuban heel, a pair of higher priced blue jeans, and a button up dress shirt. I remember one of the wives making a very loud comment on the shoes like they were the weirdest thing they had ever seen. If I recall she shouted "what in the hell are those shoes you are wearing?" She was wearing jeans, tennis shoes and a t-shirt. I just told her in a polite, but firm, (loud), voice that I did not share her fashion sense, and some people like to wear something a bit more fashionable when they go out and not the same clothes that they might do yard work in. Everyone got a laugh, even her husband was trying to keep a straight face. She did not have anything to say after that and the party resumed with no issues, other than people wanted to see my shoes. Her comment was the only negative I got. This is one reason I will not wear heels in public. Too many rednecks with no fashion sense, but they are fashion critics.

Pumped, again, I'm jealous of your wife! She seems like quite the heels master, it would be fun to know someone like that in real life.

Shafted and Berg, living in regions with a lot of seasonal ice, do you find that very few people share your continued enthusiasm for heels? It seems like no one around heel wears stilettos ever and few wear any type of heel in the winter!

We get our share of snow too. As for heels, Just feel like I live in some black hole of fashion. When we go out for an evening most people are jeans and t-shirts, or perhaps in an extreme case jeans ans a dressy shirt. Either way heels are optional.

My wife wonders about me and my interest in fashion which goes farther than just heels. I have bought her clothing before and she usually likes what I get, plus it fits too. I love to go shopping for her even if it takes all day. I joke when we go for my clothing, we don't go shopping, we go buying as we hit one or two favorite stores and get it over with.

It is me and my favorite pumps!

Slippery surface with heels? No thanks! I mentioned to my wife the other day that I have more respect with her wearing heels on highly polished floors. We have some old style hardwood floors in the house, and the laundry room has a smooth concrete floor with some industrial floor sealer on it so it is very slick too. After walking on those surfaces in heels I have a lot of respect for anyone that can walk on smooth hard surfaces in a confident manor. My wife has been out to the mall with me and it has terrazzo floors, very smooth and slippery. She just struts along no problem. I would probably be flat on my face, or clinging for dear life to the wall!

what a waste of web space.

Like many of the other dissussions are not a bit silly? Some of the longest threads in the different forms are a bit silly. Does it make the thread a waste of spce? Not in my opinion, I just don't read what does not interest me.

It all depends and your interest. Some people have an interest in this thread, obviously you don't. Keep an open mind, that is why most of us are all here, isn't it?

Men, for obvious reasons cannot wear pantyhose alone and it's best to have the support of snug panties on first. Until the time comes when it's fully accepted for men to wear pantyhose, it still is best to wear pants over them, unless, of course, one is already comfortable wearing it with shorts or skirts.

I wear pantyhose, and tights, but for a different reason than many here, I wear them for warmth in the winter instead of thermals. I work indoors mostly and like the little extra in warmth I get from pantyhose without the bulk, and the extra bulk of the thermals and sock at the ankle. As for not being able to wear them alone, I often wear just the pantyhose with my jeans, it is not much different then wearing loose boxers. You just have to deal with the "dangle".

There is a few companies that make pantyhose for men with the extra opening so we can do our restroom break with out getting half undressed. They also have a bit more room in front in the appropriate place.

I don't see that size 42/12 is extreme for woman. Probably getting close to the upper end but not out of line. If you look through the common retail stores that generally cater to woman and check stock for sizes you will see that 10 US is very popular. It does taper off from there as the size goes up. I certainly would not think that a 12US was specifically for any gender bending male to wear but it is possibly entering that gray area of who it is intended for. Now if you were asking about 14-16US and larger I would question it. The lady that lives next door to me is a larger gal and her feet are bigger than mine and I wear a woman's 10-10 1/2. When I think about it I am pretty sure my sister has bigger feet than me, but then she is 6' tall!