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<mod mode> As long as we are on the subject of etiquette, please bear in mind that HHplace is a volunteer site. Our staff is all volunteers and our membership is all volunteers. We come here because we share interests, we like to talk about heels and we have a common bond here. Asking a question like "Can someone identify the make/model of these shoes?" is perfectly acceptable, it happens a lot here. Belittling the response you get is not acceptable. We don't have to help you, we have lives outside of HHplace too. A little bit of gratitude for members who took a moment out of their day to respond to a request would not go amiss. Sometimes shoe shopping is like hunting, the thrill is in the chase! When you are looking for a discontinued style, the chase is going to be a little bit challenging. Please try to keep civil. </mod mode>

If you would consider dealing online, you might try looking at the offerings from a few of the shops listed in this forum . Just looking is half the fun!

More than likely she is not accustomed to such a high heel yet. 5 inches is pretty high, especially if she has a small foot (like a 7 or 8 ). Going from a 2 1/2" to a 3 1/2" heel (one inch step up in height) is rather easy, while going from 4" to 5" (also a 1 inch step) is quite a challenge. What is the highest heel she has worn (before the 5 inchers)? If it's 3 1/2 or 4", that's what is going on. Get her something a little bit lower, like 4 1/2" and allow her to get used to them. Then step up to the 5's. Pain is the body's way of telling you something is wrong and you should stop doing whatever is causing it. Masking that pain could lead to trouble and is not recommended. (BTW, this thread is more in line with the "foot care" forum so it is going there.)

I like them and will be bidding on them later tonight, what a pair of boots!

seriously? are you mad? and with all due respect, what on earth do you do to earn enough money to able to simply justify anywhere near that amount?

Gucci or not, there is absolutely no need on god's green earth to spend that much money on clothes, footwear etc.

sorry, I just don't understand.

However I will honestly wish you good luck none the less; it's your money after all and I truly hope they are worth it.

R

Humor - ar, ar. (Robin Williams as "Mork from Ork", "Mork and Mindy" -- for those readers who, for whatever reason, weren't paying attention in the 70's).

But I'm gonna have to jump a whole lot of tax brackets before I can even consider 8 Grand for a pair of boots -- gorgeous though they may be.

Hi all. i am a newbie here

Welcome to the site! Tell us a little about your interest in heels and what brought you here, you will find other members with similar experiences.

might take a while to learn to navigate around.

May I suggest a couple of good places to start: hhplace_user_manual and hhplace_guidelines ?

Welcome to HHplace, Nicole R! Just browse around, you will find something that inspires you!

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Good idea!

Mr. ShoesRus has pretty much told us all we need to know.

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Would you be referring to the commercial noted in this thread?

I cannot identify the shoes but I remember seeing the thread.

As horrible as this sounds, my take is, the manual is on the phone, and if your not smart enough to find it, you shouldnt be using the phone in the first place lol....

Of course, there was a time, way back in the deep, dark recesses of long-forgotten history, when one did not *need* a manual to use a phone! (Just imagine!) But then, that was back in the days when phones were heavy, clumsy instruments that were screwed to walls or sat on tables or desks and had to be attached to the network by means of long filaments of copper commonly called "wires". But in those days, you never had to even think about how many "bars" you had, or how much juice was left in your battery or where you left your charger!

The tips generally come in pairs. You're probably going to pay for two even if you only use one. Might as well replace both.

You forgot that it was up hill....both ways!..lol

. . . and always into the wind!

I hear these "bad winter coming" predictions every year -- kind of goes with the territory in Northern Michigan. I have never heard an "easy winter" predicted -- it's always going to be "the worst since ____".

First, welcome aboard! You will be able to post pictures after you have been a member for about a week and have a handful of posts. We try to encourage new members to browse a bit and get to know the site. We have content that goes back ten years and much of it is still relevant. Now, on to your shoe-related questions. As far as the strap length, how about adding another hole to the strap to make it tighter? A lot of slingbacks have an elastic piece under the buckle, giving some stretch to the strap there. It sounds like you are thinking about getting rid of the buckle entirely -- a cobbler should be able to do that. It might make it a challenge to put the shoes on and take them off, though. There is not a lot that can be done about changing the sizing of shoes -- with the exception of stretching. Even then, there are limits to how much you can stretch them -- and of course, you want to make them smaller, not bigger! You might try a half-insole in the toe-box -- that might take up some of the extra room. If they were boots I'd suggest a pair of thick socks but you probably don't want that look with slingbacks!

I'm noticing something -- we have had a number of "way-out-there type shoes" threads in these pages. There was the hilarious "worst idea of a lady's shoe" thread a while ago (still around in the database somewhere) and there have been a couple of others. The Gizmodo page certainly spotlights a few more rather unusual designs. I am noticing that of all these weird shoes, the vast majority are heels. You will see something flat in there occasionally but a good 90% are heels. It is clear that flats do not engage the imagination the way heels do. Of course, we all knew this already but we can consider this to be confirmation.

Good service + positive attitude = sales It's a simple formula but it is so often forgotten.

Are you open to buying online? If so, I might suggest:

www.zappos.com

www.sexyshoes.com

. . .both of which have generous return/exchange policies if the shoes don't fit. There are more than a few more, have a glance at our "Shoe Wholesale / Retail / Internet stores" forum.

There are two major problems buying shoes online:

1.) Fit. Since you cannot "Try before you buy", getting the proper fit may be tricky. Be prepared to send them back for an exchange and deal only with a shop that allows this with no hassle.

2). Wait. Since you have to wait for shipment, the anticipation between placing your order and your lovely beauties arriving can be overwhelming.

On the "plus" side, the Internet is a big place and if it's made, you can find it there.

Even though they have a bit of a heel on them, many of the "standard" wood-bottomed clogs are considered to be unisex. They are particularly handy as "outdoor slippers" like when you have to go outside to get the mail, make a quick run to the garage, take out the trash, etc. They are so easy to slip on and to go outside and then kick off when you come back in.

Looks like they swept up a bunch of pieces off the floor of a shoe-factory that just weathered a hurricane, then put 'em together to see what they could get.

There is one and only one way to get an accurate fit. Try it on. That's it. Sizes and sizing systems are so crazy -- especially if you are converting from one system to another -- that shoe sizes are only a guideline at best. If you wear a "12" you can be fairly certain you won't get into a "9" but that's about all. There's no guarantee that those lovely size 12 boots you saw on Zappos will fit. Try 'em on and half the time you'll send them back in disappointment. It's a bugger.

You might try getting a quote from a repair shop. You will no longer have to guess how big the "bundle" will be. Guaranteed it'll be worse if you try to do it yourself, mess it up and then have the repair shop make it right.

It's not only you guys who get negative comments you know!

it's something that is part of heel wearing that you need to get to grips with.

Perhaps it's motivated by envy? "Gee I wish I could wear shoes like that. But if I did I'd get all kinds of sneers and catcalls. So I'm gonna jump all over this dude/gal's chili." Kinda makes it all a little silly, doesn't it? All because we happen to like a certain style of shoe.

ALDO has some *very* nice offerings. Wish their sizes didn't end at 11! (Just one more, guys -- just one size more!)

I hate long good-byes.

. . . and this one has been long enough. Closing thread.

As we well know, high heels are commonly perceived as female shoes.

If one embraces other items that are ordinarily part of the female wardrobe then I don't see how this harmless activity can prevent anyone being part of this community.

It won't, as long as the CD'er in question comes here to talk about high heels.

. . . I am yet to read a compelling explaination for this beyond the notion that some men here are fearful of being labeled by the tastes of others.

You may be underestimating the strength and depth of this fear on the part of a great number of male heelers.

I think a man in high heels, like me, has to deal with his own fear of being labeled in real life ;

Very much so. In many parts of the world, men have been ingrained, almost from the moment of consciousness, with the idea that to wear any article of female clothing (and especially footwear) is "sissy", "effeminate", "gay" or just plain not right. It is a significant hurdle for a great many male heelers just to realize that they are in fact heelers -- that is, to slip on that first pair of heels, stand up, take a step and experience the feeling. This may be a sad commentary on society in general but it is a reality. It is a reality that we are attempting to change and such change comes slowly.

So imagine a rather nondescript guy who is interested in heels, does an internet search (this site will be one of the top ten hits in a Google search for "men wearing high heels"), and winds up here. And not too long ago, he was greeted with long and illustrated descriptions of various men wearing bras, panties, skirts, stockings, nylons, wigs, makeup -- and oh, by the way, high heels too -- out "on the town". And many of these nondescript guys were put off by this -- possibly because they were conditioned to do so but they were put off nonetheless. We heard about it. This is not what we want. We want such people to grow to embrace that which makes them happy. If it is wearing high heels then go for it and we will get behind that. If it is crossdressing then go for that too, but not here, this isn't the place for it. There are plenty of other places for that.

Not everybody is ready to go out fully "en femme" for a night on the town. Many of us have no desire to do so, and would not even if there were no social stigma attached.

Then there is another dimension to this issue -- the ladies' side. It is simply not possible to run a website dedicated to the discussion of high heels without including the female perspective. We invite and encourage women to join and participate. And the ladies also found themselves put off by all the CD/TV/TS content, to the point where all but a handful gave up participating. Face the fact, they are just not "into" it. Look through some of the old postings -- you will find long dissertations on how few women we had here and what we could do about it. All the time, the answer was staring us in the face.

It probably took way too long for us to come to the realization that the CD/TV/TS content had to be taken off our site but the realization eventually came. Now that we have implemented it, it has proven to be the correct course. HHplace operates with far more vigor and enthusiasm, and with a far more diverse membership than it did "back in the old days".

once one realises that people can think what they like and it doesn't matter then one is better placed to accept other peoples idiosyncracies.

That is a wonderful insight and the world would be a much nicer place if a good 6 billion souls would embrace it. It is not likely that any of us can make that happen. We certainly will not do so by shocking anybody with content that they are not ready to accept.

It is unfortunate that we cannot be all things to all people. As it turns out, nothing on Planet Earth can, so we are far from unique in that respect. Some people want something that we cannot offer -- fortunately the Internet is a big place.

(You have probably noticed that I completely left out one point you made regarding the content of mshighheel's pictures. I did this because I did not see the pictures and therefore I am in no position to comment on them. However, I fully trust the judgment of the rest of the HHplace staff to moderate content in accordance with our stated website guidelines and goals.)

Okay, once again. Look at the banner at the top of our site. What does it say? On my monitor it says "High Heel Place", and "The High Heels Meeting Place" just below that. That has been the case for years, as long as I have been coming here. It does not say "CD High Heel Place", "TV High Heel Place", "TS High Heel Place" or "TG High Heel Place" and it never has. Nor will it. That's what this site is about -- it's a fashion forum dedicated to high-heeled shoes. Seems like that shouldn't be too hard to grasp.

Now if you are a CD, TV, TS, or TG'er and you want to come here and talk about shoes, this is the place to be. If you want to come here and talk about CD'lng, transvestitism, transsexualism or transgenderism, we will not let you. That is not what we are about here and we will openly invite you to go elsewhere. There are plenty of such sites on the Internet and no more than a dozen keystrokes directed at Google will turn them up.

We did at one time have a forum dedicated to CD, TV, TS and TG'ers and we came to learn that was a mistake because topics tended to spawn in that forum and weave their way throughout the site. Before long, one could find such topics in all the forums of the site, including "For the Girls". The site had de-facto turned into "The CD/TV/TS/TG (and anybody else) High Heel Meeting Place" and the majority of our members began to find the content uncomfortable. For this reason the mistake has been corrected. If the CD/TV/TS/TG community could exercise a little bit of self-control and not yield to the temptation to spread their content all over our site, then they would have a better time here. (And we, in fact, do have a number of such members who possess enough self-control to get along well here -- thank you all.)

So if you have decided that you do not have a place here, we wish you well in your pursuits.