Guy N. Heels

While on-line I was delighted to see some of the new Spring Fashions coming out. Apparently open toes and strappy sandals are going to be hitting the streets pretty soon. I was actually rather taken by a Jimmy Choo model with an orange "caged sandal" atop a 4" heel, which looks very sexy. Then I noticed the prices. At $785, at first I was convinced that someone had made a typpo and put the decimal in the wrong place. But no, it turns out that they had another pair going for (helmets and seatbelts on?) $995. Even some of the "cheaper models" were going for well over $100. Well, the styles look great, but at those prices, I don't expect to see 'em in my neighborhood any time soon.

I believe (and have observed) that you could have two identical women wearing the same shoe in the same size but one will be sexier than the other. I think there us an undefined seX factor: The way she moves, the clothes whatever it is, I just can't put my finger on it.

I find that girls who are not used to heels at all is a bit of a turn off but girls who can walk very well in heels are not as sexy as those who totter and wobble slightly because you know she's enjoying them.

Dr. Shoe makes a very good point. In the final analysis, the shoes, dress, jewelry, etc. are only part of a greater whole. Strip away the accessories and now yer getting down to the nitty-gritty, or as Dr. Shoe sez - "the seX factor". Here's where we find that no 2 people are exactly alike.

And while I will admit that there are some very good ones out there, not even highly polished actors and actresses can precisely duplicate another person. There's always some little mannerism, some little thing that is never quite the same. All of which ultimately translates into a "finished picture" or "product", if you please. THIS is precisely what makes each of us an individual. And while shoes and clothing are part of the picture - they are not the whole picture.

My dad often reminded me: "When you buy land you get sticks and stones; when you buy meat you get fat and bones." I have interpreted that to mean that we must accept the entire deal - whatever it is, for what it is.

3 days is an awful long time. I tried to "force" myself to wear my ankle boots with over a 5" heel (the ones in my avatar) for 12 hours by locking the keys to the padlocks in a key safe and then encrypting a picture of the combination with some software. Well, I made it but my feet were REALLY hurting by the time my release came. I'd go a little easy on how long you will be locked in them. You may regret your choice.

To sort of "second" what HHLover writes, I'd like to point out that if something happens and the keys should become lost or destroyed, you might not only find yourself in a rather embarrassing situation, you also end-up damaging or destroying the shoes in the process. None of which speaks to possible health dangers you might encounter.

Wearing heels for fashion and fun is one thing, but you are now getting into a dangerous area that's rather a far cry from fun.

It ain't the monitor! The problem is either: A] the PIC; or B] the viewer (I have spots in my rets and the meds I'm taking ain't helping any); or C] All of the above! (Like this is Washington, man! When you can't find someone to blame - blame EVERYBODY!)

looks like another psuedocelebrity publicity stunt to me

If a woman's foot is 9 inches long.... does that mean she wears a size 6 in US women's shoe size terms? ALSO, Would her foot likely reach this size around the age of 18?

If so, what would the significance of that be? Is that the average shoe size for a woman? And are really hot heels more likely to be found in this size?

Thanks much in advance.

Well, 9 inches, which would be the equivilent of a US women's size 5, is pretty small for an adult and I imagine a large child could probably wear it. In my estimation, most teenage girls would have out-grown a size 5 by the age of 14 or 15 unless, of course, she came from really dimminutive parents. I think the average US woman wears about a size 8 and they normally reach that by age 18.

This for everyone; please leave a note on your experience.

I personally do not wear High Heels very much and when I do, not to exceed 3". So that makes me pretty pedestrian heel wearer. When I do wear it is off the clock so to say not at work. If I really wanted I suppose I could but I have no desire.

Recently I have become bored and wanted to get out of the house. So I put on a nice ankle length skirt, shirt and jacket and go to the local Performing Arts Center. For foot wear I would use my over-calf black boots 3" inch heel. I like this but with warmer weather coming I thought I would find some ankle height boots or bootie shoes.

I did find a pair of Sofft Rochelle that fit wonderfully. They have about a 3" inch heel and REALLY GOOD insole and sole.

Flashback: when I was 13 years old I was on my bicycle and was hit by a car. My right leg was broken. Since this corresponded with a growth spurt my right leg is 5/8" shorter than my left.

Back to today: I normally wear a 1/2" heel insert/lift. BUT back pain is a constant companion.

Even with heels I still slip some kind of heel lift into the right shoe. This last week I have been at home walking a lot in the Rochelle's sorting out the size, etc.

AND I have noticed that my back pain has lessened. Now doctors, podiatrists have all said High Heels are bad for your feet. OK I went through a lot of trouble to get a rounded toe box with enough width so my toes are not cramped.

QUESTION: Has anyone else noticed an easing of back pain while wearing "Heels"?

-- Brandy

Every person is different, so what works well for one may spell disaster for another. Plus, when you couple-on the fact that all pain is in your head (you really can't feel pain in yer back or anywhere else - it's all in yer mind) that leaves the door wide-open for all sorts of possibilities.

I sometimes experience some mild relief when I wear heels, but if I overdo it, I'm sure to let myself in for a big session with pain-killers.

If yer leg really is shorter, then I would suggest either adding an extra thick lift to the shoe for the short leg, or else continue what you are doing with the insert in the shoe.

Yes, statisticly heels are bad for you, and I'm sure that the medical people have the figures to back-up what they say. But statistics don't always tell the whole story. Once again, everyone is different. So if you want to join the statistics then you'd better get rid of the heels. But if you don't fit the stats, then stay here with us.

ok since the pic got my last posts deleted, Here is the censored version.

Anyone know what boots these are or where to find them?

Sorry, but the pic is a little too dark and lacking in detail to be able to give any definitive answer; however, Payless had a similar looking boot last fall.

Oh, so sad to hear. Another stellar example for the younger generation to emulate gone from the scene. What ever will we do.......

(WTFC,AW)

Not to worry, he will no doubt, be replaced by some other cellar star like Ultra-Revulsion, or some similar example. Now please excuse me whil I hunt up my air-sick bag.

Those appear much too generic to be able to give a specific identification. At the moment Bakers, Payless, and Fredricks comes to mind, with perhaps a dozen more that are readily available on-line.

Wow, where the heck did that picture come from?

Like whatsamatter for you? Don't you recognize those uniformed Secret Service agents on Bill Clinton's protective detail? Now about the little blue dress...

And the problem is......

So what is the problem?

Personally, I rather like large gals (H/W proportional). Nevertheless, this does call to mind an incident I experienced many years ago when I pulled into a gas stattion in St. Louis one night, and a gal started getting out of her car at the next pump. Even though she was wearing flat shoes, she literally towered over everyone there; and hazarding a guess, I'd say she probably stood around 2 meters.

I seriously doubt that it's a placebo effect. The plain and simple fact is that the very nature of heels changes the geometry of the feet and the way that the weight is distributed. So it's a small wonder when you consider that redistributing upwards of 170 lbs on one's feet and the new angle(s) that the weight starts to hit the floor and one's foot and ankle bones. So about the only real question is why might one person experience pain in heels while another experiences relief from pain?

What is an obama? Is that some kind of alcohalic mix drink or something?

Right on! It's sort of like a White Russian, only you have to add the XXXXX equivalent of vodka. Believe me, after 3 of those yer ready for the "special olympics".

Thanks for the tip on the corrigated cardboard, an item we have shortage of around here. I presume that you mean that the extra cardboard is either glued or taped inside the shoe box.

Nope!

Well, I hadn't really thought about it, but when I saw some designer shoes that cost upwards of $500 - it makes sense! But can she rent 'em by the hour?

yes I agree, that would be cheaper and most likly easier. but I am shooting for comfort and fit. The last pair I bought was so painfull that I coulden't stand for more that about a minute. That was my own fault though. So after I made them peep toe, they fit good. that got me thinking about just making my own.

I had 2 ideas so far.. I like the erector set high heels in the odd shoes section and I was also thinking about trying to make some with bamboo!

If comfort and fit are yer goals, then I would suggest that you first conduct some research into what makes a truly comfortable shoe. There are some mfgrs around who have acheived some fame for their comfortable shoes, and so you might want to start with them and find out just what goes into producing that comfortable shoe. I know I have mentioned this before, but at the top of the list is one that you are going to have trouble find - that's Pollys. The Pollys I bought for my old girlfriend were the only comfortable heels she claimed she had. So besides that really great look, what made those shoes so comfortable for her?

While I admire ambition, what you are going to find, from a purely practical point of view, is that there is no way that you can produce a truely comfortable cost-effective shoe. Even if you figure your time is only worth $1per hr. before it's over you will have spent far and away more than a really nice pair of shoes would cost.

I store my heels in a big bag.

I wish I was brave enough to store my heels together with all other footwear I have.

My wifes heels are everywhere and I like it that way, they make me go "hmmmmm"..:-)

I tend to agree with FXHH. For a variety of reasons, the footwear should be stored neatly and in order, preferably after cleaning and/or polishing when worn. Believe it or not, it does affect the life of the shoes and I think yer going to find that footwear is starting to get much more expen$ive these days.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "big bag", but if yer talking about a large plastic garbage bag, do yourself a favor and take the shoes out. For one thing, shoes need to breathe, and that simply isn't going to happen with a big plastic bag. Believe it or not, you would be far better off storing the shoes in their original boxes. I do have one pair of knee-high boots that I store in their original box, which is in turn stored in a suit-case. I admit that this is not the ideal way, but better than the large plastic bag.

Hey Lailalily,

I think I understand your feeling of being vulnerable while wearing heels. Most of us want to be able to carry on our activities without the distractions of all the public voyeurs. Wearing heels of any height has a way of grabbing attention from the sound they make in walking or the aid they give to model their wearer. In this arena, we are more self-conscious about our demeanor and presence under such scrutiny as we fear we might do something that others would think it was of a spastic nature.

Feeling vulnerable while wearing heels also has to do with one's ability to escape the threat of danger or any unpleasant potential. Even a skilled heeler in heels over 2.5" high can't manuveur as well as they can in tennis/running shoes. This would cause some feeling of insecurity for high heelers if the need to leave abruptly was suddenly thrusted upon them.

As a male heeler, no matter what kind of a healthy front we exhibit, there is the nagging reality of the social attitude that makes us feel vulnerable or fearful in our heeling activities. Many heelers haven't made friends close enough to feel accepted and supported in their heeling, so they have to venture out alone.

I very much second what HiStiletto said. But without wanting to sound trite, I think that one's vulerability is, to a large degree, a state of mind. For example, one can reduce risk factors by being selective about the places we frequent, whom we chose to go with (there is safety in numbers), limiting the amount of alcohol consumed, staying in well-lighted areas where responsible people are around, and so forth.

While all of these suggestions will help, nothing can absolutely remove all danger for any one person at any given time; and for that reason alone I frequently made it a point to keep my .380 pocket pistol discretely within easy reach during my younger days. I have subsequently voluntarily disarmed myself and have not actively sought to bear arms since. While I do not advocate arming one's self, I do understand why one might consider it; and I can certainly understand why some women might want to carry a tazer or some similar device. Nevertheless, some old-fashioned common-sense will go a very long way in removing you from harm's way and improving your peace of mind.

If you should decide to arm yourself (I consider that a very deeply personal decision), do NOT arm yourself with any sort of chains, brass knuckles, edged weapons, clubs or batons, or pepper spray, as the average woman will have neither the strength nor requisite martial skills to overcome a beligerant man. If you should decide to reach for armaments, you will need something that will stop the average man in his tracks! For this reason, I tend to favor stun-weapons, which do have the requisite stopping power without the inherit risk to life. If you should lean toward firearms, you would be wise to dismiss the .25's and .32's as totally ineffective. I have carried both the Browning and the Walther PP in .380 ACP, which will stop a man at 20 feet (for guaranteed knock-down, I would have used 2 rounds instead of one). Anything less is inviting trouble.

Believe me, I do appreciate your concerns. But there are some common-sense measures that will greatly improve your peace of mind without having to check your local licensing laws, and all that sort of thing. I most sincerely wish that you live long and prosper. But if you find a need to discuss your personal defense measures, do not hesitate to PM me.

Next, you'll need to spend some time here just snooping around this site. We've got guys who have covered just about every topic under the sun. So the next time you have a question, go into the search mode and look around here. Most likely somebody has already asked that same question. Here we deal with everything from swapping and selling shoes, to repairing 'em, wearing them, and a whole lot more.

My IQ? 180 --- (Opps, that's my weight ---Lbs - Just a little humor there. )

I said 130+, but that could be my golf score. Actually, I haven't had a reliable IQ test in many moons. On the other hand, one's IQ isn't all that it's cracked-up to be. If you can walk (in heels) and chew gum simultaneously then yer probably in pretty good shape. Or to put it another way, I managed to plug-in the toaster and actually get toast out of it this morning, so I figure I'm good-to-go.

Besides, how's one come up with that magic number: lessee you take yer area code and divide by yer zip code and then multiply by the number of beers in yer 'frige - right?

Old & ugly??? Man, like I've got neckties older than her!

All points taken one point remains unsaid but tieing the two together. Now being fair how to answer this.

Those that have transitioned gender then marry. Are they not a Man and a Woman?

In some courts which are lead by biggots and ignore what a physical appernace says, ignore what the birth certificate says but instead remain fixed on what was before the transition. Making a the now physical man and woman but either a man-man or woman-woman.

Being fair is to let them marry and not dig up the past, go with the here and now.

In terms of addressing each other it is STILL husbend and wife, man and woman.

And some times there is this. Both involved transitioned genders before man and womand and after womand and man. How ever out of spit it is STILL denied by those same courts.

First off, I would like to remind everyone that this is a forum in which we discuss High Heels and associated fashion issues, which is NOT to be confused as a bible/religious forum (Although some religious issues do have a bearing on matters here). Therefore, and especially in light of the old adage that, "He who is convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." I shall endeavor to refrain from further biblical references on this particular topic.

Then the second point that I very strongly feel needs to be voiced is the misconception that a law against something equals hate!

Now let's take a minute to examine this. When that nice friendly policeman with the bright blue flashing light stops you and gives you a ticket for violating the law, does that mean that he and the court system and the legislative process that he represents all HATE you? The obvious answer is no. If you violate the laws of any state or country, you are subject to the penalties thereof and emotions really should have no part in the matter whatsoever. In like manner, just because a lawyer, priest, prophet, professor, or some other knowledgeable individual takes the trouble to point out what the Bible states, or what some other authoritative book might say about a given subject and mentions what laws are violated, that does not in any way equate with hatred (except, perhaps, in the minds of those who are already in a state of rebellion against the law). This hatred argument is purely a cop-out employed by those who have already placed themselves in a state of rebellion against what the Bible says and they are playing the emotional card because they know very well that before the righteous laws of a just God that they are defenseless. So if anyone here wants to trot out that patently false accusation of hatred, then I challenge you to do the same the very next time that the bright young policeman stops you and tells you that you have violated some law that he is required to uphold and enforce, and see just where that gets you.

Finally, the issue of sexual reassignment is a whole world apart from the usual discussion of same-sex marriage for several reasons; not the least of which is the fact each individual is born with either a his or a hers brain! Therefore, while it may be entirely possible to reassign one's gender and sexual functions, that still does not reassign one's brain functions. So on that basis alone, I'm going to say, "God will judge" and bow-out. The plain and simple fact is that there are some circumstances that none of us are qualified to judge.

Well you will have to bare with me i'm kind of new to all of this

so I hope this is right place to post.I'll start with a little history,I have loved high heels

as long as I can remember 6 or 7 years old sneaking around try moms heels on. Now that i'm in my 40's i have bought so many pair of shoes

only to feel ashamed and throw them away in a week or two. I live in a small conservitive town (would be the laughing stock if anybody knew) so I live with this torment everyday! I have A great family wife and kids and could not stand the thought of letting them down or hurting them in anyway shape or form but anytime I get to wear my high heel it feels so good & right but when i put them up I feel so guilty and ashamed I tell myself never again but within a few days or even hours I can't wait to do it again.So I guess the big question is this an addiction or is it some kind of sickness or I'm just wired wrong.How do others deal with this!!

Hi there MEME, and welcome to the forum.

One thing's for sure, you're in good company here, as I'm sure that a great many of us can relate to what yer saying. So the first thing I want to do is get you to accept your attraction to heels. It's perfectly okay and a good number of us could tell a story very similar to yours.

Then the next thing I would hope to do is to get you to knock-off those guilt-feelings and the purges. Since many of us have thrown-out a small fortune in shoes, it just doesn't make any sense (not to mention that it's expen$ive). So why throw them out today if you're only going to go out and replace them again next week or next month? That's insane! So yer first order of business is to accept the fact that you like heels, and next you need to quit wasting time and money with that endless buy - purge; buy - purge cycle.

Next, you need to start hanging around here. Most of us have been through exactly what yer talking about and so we know all about it. So just relax and unburden yourself here, where men not only wear heels, but we don't mind talking about it either.