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So what do you think?

The case against:

1. Muscular calves

2. No convincing office sounds in the background

3. "She" is the only one who ever appears in shot

4. No dialogue

5. Sanitised office sets which could almost be part of a private home

If it is real, it's almost too good to be true. Give me a job there

I'd hazard a guess that the post about men not being able to wear them properly was made out of ignorance, the poster having experienced only a couple of men who had tried them on for a laugh.

To be taller, have a choice of different styles, and feel better. Probably exactly mostly the same reasons that women wear them.

Hi Ninanoora! Welcome to the board. I recognise you from my flickr group at HH street fashions. I hope you find lots of fans for your photos here, I'm sure you will. By the way, what you wrote in the girls forum about men who can't straighten their knees is not true of most of the guys on this board. I know because I have met them in real life It's a question of experience with heels. You have probably only met guys who tried them once as a laugh, but the people here are different.

I'm going to sign up for a You Tube account so I can post some of my candid heel movies. If you want I can tell them where you got the boots. They seem to be provoking quite a bit of interest! Tom. I'm not understanding the first post. Did you cross reference it and then think different later? From my point of view, I live and die by the sword. I post pics of people in public places. If someone did the same to me I'd accept it, provided it wasn't posted in a defamatory fashion. By the way, did you see the guy in the vid that someone pointed out. He was eyeing up the boots and then realised someone was spying on him too. It's about 44 secs in the clip. What a classic; the hunter is hunted.

Come on all the other people from hhplace who went to TG.... What were your impressions, and what did you get up to?

I think people in general need to get things in perspective. They are shoes right? Just things to cover your feet. The person behind the shoes is infinitely more important. If you think stilettos/heels are essential to retain a sexy edge, or affect your appreciation of someone, then you're letting an interest take over the actual truth, or indeed cloud any rational thought on your part. Take a few steps back and get matters in focus. Think about the qualities of a person that really count.

Only you can judge the situation on this Sevenup. Only you know how long you are prepared to wait for her. The best thing you can do is probably give her gentle reminders that you are still there for her from time, to time and not push the issue. That decision will be hers, and all you can do is make sure she knows how you feel without putting her under undue stress. If I were you, I'd see another girl on a casual basis. It may help deflect some of the pain you are feeling. By the way, to all those who say they are "not counselors", so what? Your opinion is just as valid as any counselor. Counselors etc just make it up as they go along. Social science is largely common sense and life experience

I thought it was all good apart from the queuing for the cloakroom at TG and you guys had no control over that! With a large group, there's always people who don't turn up or groups splitting off etc. So you just have to go with the flow sometimes; I don't think you could have done any more. From my point of view it was a great event, so well done.

Actually, if you like club type music properly presented and DJ'd (very loud trance/electro heavy/MOR rock and some quieter stuff in the Dungeon), it's quite a nice club to visit. The croud is friendly, and you are not going to get thrown out because your face doesn't fit the "image". So long as you make some effort and don't wear normal streetwear, you'll be OK. You don't even have to like BDSM, just be tolerant. The other rooms apart from the dungeon are like normal club party rooms. And people make a real effort with their costumes, even the guys have to. It's not boring shirt and jeans everywhere so there's plenty to look at. Male/females were about equal, so that means 800 females or so practically all wearing 4-6" stilettos, and I counted at least 20 girls with completely bare breasts, with numerous others just wearing nipple covers. Even the guys had weird and wonderful outfits. It's just one big soft porn and music show. I don't think there are many better value places for 8 hours of varied entertainment in London for £25

You forgot almond toe and chisel toe in the poll. Also pointy can be simply regular, or those very long points like winkle pickers.

Stevenage is a bit of a dive. Uxbridge is nicer with two precincts close to each other, Chimes and the Pavillions or something.

Re hairline, wear a wig or baseball cap etc. Be creative... there's always a way

I would be up for that if free. I know it's been done before but London is best communications wise. To be honest you're unlikley to meet anyone you know in the crowds of Camden or Oxford Street or even Lakeside. If you are worried, just wear a pair of dark sunglasses.

TG was great in the end. I managed to buy Scott's ticket as he wasn't feeling well. I thought it was going to be rubbish to start with though. Imagine standing on winding spiral staircase going up 3 storeys in 4.5 inch heels with two heavy bags in a 45 min queue for the cloakroom, all the time two other streams of people are trying to get up and down the same staircase. The circulation space qualities of this venue were a heap of shit and that's being generous. Eventually I quit this queue and found another cloakroom down in the dungeon. This only had a 15 minute(!) queue conveniently sharing a narrow corridor with two streams of people going to and from the outside smoking area and also the toilet queue as well as another stream of people exiting the toliet all spiced up by the odd staff security person who wanted to get somewhere in a hurry and barged his way through the mass at 3 times the speed of anyone else. However, once I had got rid of the bags, things were better. There were four music venues on about three floors all with different themes, although the place was absolutely packed with about 2000(?) people. I totally lost touch with the other members of the group through the evening, though I did see from time to time, Rob, A3, Lennert, and Stuart. I started off dancing and listening to some extremely loud electro trance stuff on the second floor for an hour or so, and met some interesting people though conversation is somewhat limited. Then, I went back down the dungeon and had a sit down, watching various people being tied up pieces of apparatus and being whipped or spanked. As I was sitting down going half off to sleep. A couple sat down next right to me and started petting heavily. She then performed oral sex on him and yes she did swallow. After that he brought her off manually. She didn't make a lot a lot of noise but shuddered and panted a lot when she came. A few seats away another couple were going at it conventionally. I have to stress this wasn't the couples room or a quiet room, just an open seating area next to the bar and the torture equipment. I couldn't care less but I think that's the kind of thing you need to be prepared for at this venue. Later I went to another music room and had a dance and a sit down again. I was actually pretty tired as I didn't get any sleep the night before, but the music was quite good, and there was plenty to see in terms of heels and costumes. I would say probably 95% of the girls wore at least 4 inch heels, but only 5% of the guys although a lot of the guys wore those heavy black platform boots. I stayed till about 5 in the morning, at which time the buses were running so I could make a getaway. I got the 5.30 bus to Kings Cross and the 6.30 train and so got back home about 8.00. Cost: Ticket £25.00, Cloakroom £4.00 (2 bags), Bar £8.00(2 bottles of Sol), Taxi (shared) £7.00, Bus £2.00, Train £10.50 Total £56.50

It was a pretty good do at the Miller in the end. I think about 30 people turned up but we had food layed out for about 50 so it seemed, so there was lots left. We had two computers running, one with the HH Street Fashions slide show, another with a slide show of some The Designer's Collection. There was also a heel flea market with lots of pairs to try on or buy as well as all the usual great conversation and beer, so there was loads to do. Nice to meet up with everyone again. Thanks to Craig and the rest of the guys for doing all the organisation. Also thanks to Scott who was not feeling to well and sold me his ticket for TG. I hope you are feeling better soon Scott!

I don't actually think it is unacceptable. It's perfectly possible to wear heels as a guy and be accepted. Most people don't realise because they haven't tried it properly; they are too scared. The public aren't interested in major campaigns and such like. It's not a human rights issue or anything. A subtle approach as Amada mentions is correct.The way to change public perceptions is gradually over a period of time such as the changes in attitude we have seen from the 1950's to the present day. But that does involve all you lot out there wearing your heels properly, at work, on holiday, down the bar etc! Not just in the bedroom and on midnight trips to the postbox across the road

So Amanda, when the guy in pink looks back at the leopard person, what's he trying to achieve there? He ignores the leopard when he clambers up (which I wasn't expecting) and then looks back, but there is something weird round his mouth. Later he interacts with the girl in a strange way. I'd probably need to see more to form a judgment of whether this was interesting or not. But I am pretty sceptical at the moment.

Nice try, Richie. You should be a lawyer! However, I think Pizza Hut are going to get their arses tanned big time over this one. Sat evening is one of their busiest times and to run out early on at 6.00 (as well as have no pizza bases for Sunday either).... well they may be able to prove it... but it's akin to comitting commercial suicide to be in that position. Also, it would be correct for the restaurant to inform of the availability with regards to pizza, and state the dishes that were available, rather than immediately direct the patrons elsewhere. I think this will be settled out of court; they haven't got a chance.

Interesting film clip. One which you can regard as pretentious or brilliant depending in which camp you are in. I'm in the former!

If it's a "Path to heels", I think you should have stopped at "wearing them in public with confidence," and posted the extended version in the cross dressers section as appropriate. It seems to assume that heels are exclusively female attire, and simply a step on the path to some gender transformation, whereas they actually can be a unisex fashion accessory which might be sucessfully employed by either gender as a part of a coordinated outdoor wardrobe.

I get your drift now! I thought you originally meant more interested in your shoes, than you were interested in your shoes - it could be read either way.

What about a girl being more interested in your shoes than you. Would that be OK, or would she be "weird"

I think you should have everything open but offer a private fitting room for the shy ones. Also, deliberately advertise the styles you also do in larger sizes as "unisex." This won't put off women, but there are quite a few men who won't try stuff unless they are told it's for them as well. It's amazing, they won't get stuff they like, but stuff they are told they can have!

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