Anne_Louise

Isn't it odd that so much heat is generated by what people prefer to wear. I suppose I'm more or less repeating myself by emphasising that it is important that we should wear whatever we wish provided that it covers the decencies and we feel and, very importantly, look, 'comfortable. I love very tight skirts, but I do know that if they are around knee-length or longer they have a significant effect on the way we walk. How often do we see young girls wearing pencil skirts for the first time and attempting to stride as if they were in trousers?! Whatever we wear be it of a conventional length or ultra-short, tight or flared, leather, rubber or whatever, if we wear it with dignity, elegance and grace we can only be doing ourselves a favour and giving pleasure to some of those who see us. If I hobbled or tottered in my 5 1/2" heels I wouldn't wear them in public until I had practised enough not to make a fool of myself. To get back to the original point about Vicky (and I genuinely wonder what I have said to inspire such complimentary comparisons between me and her!) I have the impression that she is confident in her dress style and can move easily in her heels, so would attract attention but not censure. If on the other hand she only wears such outfits occasionally and therefore probably awkwardly, or is indeed indulging in fantasy, then so be it, it's between her and her conscience and no real business of ours. Well I've rambled on again. Too much time available today, I suppose! I'm more concise when I'm in a hurry. Anne Louise

I don't want to fuel the flames of the Becky/Bubba dispute, I'm still getting to grips with the notion of men wearing women's style heels as part of their usual male attire! That's a matter that has, I know, been discussed before and doubtless will again in a separate thread. It shouldn't be necessary to emphasise however the obvious point that with my rather large (size 8 U.K.) feet I can comfortably wear much higher shoes than a size 4, and likewise a man who takes a size 10 is likely to be able to walk quite easily in heels. I'm much more interested in the contribution from Greatspikeheels. Are we really to believe, in the twenty-first century, that all girls SHOULD be trained to wear heels? Of course any girls, once they've stopped growing, should be encouraged if they WANT to, and shouldn't be deterred by any social pressures. For those of us so inclined there is great satisfaction to be had from wearing the highest heels possible, and I for one will, health permitting, continue to do so for the rest of my days! However the idea that it should be a social convention for all women to wear heels, or any other kind of clothing for that matter, is very strange indeed; it brings to mind such things as Chinese foot-binding or early-years corset-training. Happily we live, or I thought we lived, in more enlightened times. I, like other members here, am living proof that heels higher than 5" are fine for prolonged daily wear, given the advantages of strong joints and flexible feet and ankles, so it's impossible to generalise about such things - we are all made differently, and what might be painfully impractical for one is going to be unremarkable for someone else. I apologise in advance if I have misunderstood the thought behind the posting, and please don't accuse me of indulging in a 'feminist rant'. I don't subscribe to any particular philosophy about such things, preferring to make up my own mind about the rights and wrongs of social behaviour, and I do find rather bizarre the thought of the kind of compulsion suggested by Greatspikeheels. Anne Louise

Oh dear, I seem unwittingly to have sparked an altercation! You all seem to agree though that it's not the outfit but the way that it's expressed that defines it. I should think though that almost anyone in a cream leather pencil skirt and black top would look elegant and stylish. It's not exactly a neutral outfit, but neither is it exhibitionistic, which is, I suppose, why I was surprised that it was this particular outfit that elicited such a response. You can see much more extreme dress in almost any town or city any day of the week! I don't think any of this justifies quite such intensity - clothes should be a rather light-hearted means of self-expression unless you are associated with the fashion industry, when dressing seems more to assume the mantle of a religion! Anne Louise

Bubba, it's not for me to be an apologist for Vicky, I'm sure she can defend herself, but your comments do reflect on me and others who like to dress in slightly unconventional ways. Indeed, if some of Vicky's outfits could be described as 'imaginative' I've not seen many - and it's true that I've not had time to examine the whole thread - that are especially extreme even though they are usually quite adventurous. The cream leather and black top seemed to me to be a very smart outfit. I wouldn't wear cream nylons or, at this time of year, boots, but that's just a matter of preference. Yes, circumstances are crucial. I'm quite happy to wear something very short and/or tight, together with my highest heels, during the day in my local town or for work, but I would make sure I was at least protected by a longer coat if I were by myself in a quiet street after dark. In the unlikely event (unless I was in need of an income boost!) of my being in a 'red-light' district and wearing a black leather mini-suit and stilettos I might expect to be 'kerb-crawled'. But then that would be equally likely if I wore denim trousers and block-heeled boots, or even a classic wool suit and 'sensible' shoes! It's where I am rather than what I'm wearing My view is that it's not WHAT is worn but HOW it's worn. Good grooming is essential, and the most exotic outfit can be really stylish if worn with confidence and elegance by someone who knows that she is expressing her personality through her clothes. Of course shoes, stockings and other accessories need to be as carefully chosen as the outfit. My shoes are often commented on, though those who see me often now accept them as part of my personal 'uniform', and some people (the one's I ignore and who usually have little concern for their own appearance) suggest that at my time of life I shouldn't be wearing skirts quite so short. Of course even with my shortest clothes I make sure that my stocking-tops aren't constantly on show - that's just a normal part of good grooming. Bubba, I ENJOY dressing in an eye-catching way. I'm a deeply sensual and expressive person so I dress accordingly, in sensual materials, leather (including leatherlook, p.v.c. and shortly, I hope, rubber), fur, satin, velvet, and shapes that flatter my (still not too bad) figure and show off my (still!) long and quite shapely legs. Consequently I'm often to be seen in very short, very tight skirts, preferably stretchy (that's not of course possible with leather, but if anyone is interested it can be overcome by tapering the skirt to the limit and sewing a strip of stretch fabric into each side seam) - lycra could have been invented for me! I do get lots of compliments - 'glamorous', 'stylish', 'elegant', even, dare I say, 'sexy', though I prefer 'sensual' - and remarks such as 'you're looking gorgeous as always', 'you always look as if you've stepped off the cover of Vogue', 'I wish I had legs like yours', 'I would love to be able to walk in those shoes' and so on. You could be forgiven for thinking that my name is 'Vanity', but that's already been taken! Of course age is relevant, but much less so than some might suggest. Bared midriffs are really only acceptable on the flattest of young tummies, and those tiny little skirts, 11" or 12" long that one sees in shops and catalogues will cover the essentials on a slim twenty-year-old but would be indecent on expanding middle-aged hips and thighs - and believe me, I have tried! I just have to accept that on my figure 14" is acceptably decent but daring, my usual daily length is 16" to 18", and 20" can be worn almost anywhere. I am sorry to have gone on so, but as you can see from some of my other posstings I am very much opposed to stereotyping and ageism in regard to clothes. Anne Louise

Vanity, from what I've seen of Vicky's postings she gives the impression that she has enjoyed rubber for a long time, but doubtless she can let us know. I'm much more like you, curious but undecided. In fact several years ago there was a feature in Vogue suggesting that rubber was coming into the mainstream of fashion. Certainly the skirts and dresses shown were lovely, very sleek and sensual, and inspired me to send for some catalogues, but I still couldn't quite take the plunge. I've always loved leather and I've quite a lot of p.v.c. too, and through seeing comments on this site and exchanging messages with various people I thought I really should give rubber a try. The little skirt I sent for was quite a surprise - 'little' is appropriate as a size 14 arrived in an A4 size envelope! It was a pull-on style, not what I expected, but having struggled into it I can only say that I was smitten! If you like tight things then you should give it a try, the way it 'hugs' the thighs is a truly unique sensual experience. What was as important is how good it looked, worn with a smart top or jacket, quite suitable for normal daywear. I reluctantly decided to return the skirt, only because it wasn't really practical for my life-style, but I'm currently searching for something similar but more tailored. I shall definitely be getting one by the autumn, though I'm told that some people find rubber suitable for warmer weather too. I should love to know if your experience is similar to mine - PM if you prefer. Anne Louise

I often hear remarks such as, 'I love your shoes, I used to wear really high shoes like them but I don't any more.' Usually the reasons are such things as change of lifestyle, bringing up a family, advancing years and so on. What is interesting is their perceptions of heel height because when I have been shown some of their shoes they are nearly always much lower. In other words, people's ideas of 'high' vary quite a lot. One thing I've learned from this site and seeing the pictures of my kind of shoe is how high they actually look when being worn, it's something that the mirror can't truly represent. Of course it makes me feel even better about my heels! Daz, Becky is right, you can't truly know if you can walk easily in very high shoes until you have worn them for hours at a time and on all sorts of surfaces. Your shoe size of course makes a big difference too. As a size 8 I can wear 5 1/2" heels all day long, something a size 5, for example, would find much more of an effort.

Yes, Bubba, isn't that a touch unfair? As I'm also someone who likes to wear clothes that make something of a statement, no doubt you could address a similar comment to me! But I should be deeply offended if you did! Well, for this morning it was the scarlet jacket again, a short sleeved crinkly, scoop-neck top in pastel 'rainbow' colours, a tight fitting, quite short, pewter p.v.c. skirt, gloss 'chiffon' stockings, and the red/black 5 1/2" stilettos again. I don't normally mention the underwear, but today it matches (for once), black underwired bra, black knickers, black eight-strap suspender. So, if you saw me on a street corner would you approach me with a fistful of Dollar bills?! Anne Louise

A little more sophisticated today. Scarlet jacket, gold short-sleeved ribbed round-neck top,, slightly A-line navy blue pinstripe skirt, about 6" above the knee and with small slit, left front, those lovely rather glossy chocolate seamed nylons with point heel, black patent open toe, open side 5 1/2" stilettos, with red banding and red heels (Leatherworks style 'Charlie' for anyone interested), very chunky gilt chain necklace, big round gilt earings and gilt cuff bangle.

That's a very attractive dress, Gene. I have several in a similar style but with a simple neckline rather than the crossover back, because I prefer to wear a bra. Vicki, you've upstaged me again! It's no secret that I love to wear black leather, though I tend to keep it for the cooler seasons when of course I always wear gloves too. But in my defence, my heels were higher (1 1/2" higher!!) and my skirt, whilst too short to be particularly restricting, was very tight! And by wearing shoes rather than boots I had more seam on view. I always wear an eight-strap suspender with seams, it helps to keep the seams straight, especially for short skirts. Perhaps when the winter comes, Vicki, I might find an outfit to rival yours - who knows, I could be in 7" heels by then! But I envy your youth and I admire your style. Love, Anne Louise

I've already posted that I managed my 61/2" heels for a short shopping trip, so here's the full outfit: V-neck brown-beige ribbed sweater, very short (too short, as I discovered!) tight, burgundy colour 'snakeskin' skirt, chocolate Gio ff nylons, below-the-knee black leather trench-coat, and of course those black patent 61/2" courts. Gilt heavy chain necklace, wide bracelet and hoop earings. Why was the skirt too short? Well, traditional nylons don't have any stretch and mine aren't as long a some of my other styles. I checked in the mirror that my stocking tops weren't on show and it was alright, even from the back, as long as I didn't bend, but in any case my coat avoided any danger there. I had to spend some time in a waiting-room, and of course sitting on a low chair my skirt, being tight and with no stretch in it, rode up revealing not just stocking-top but a bit of thigh too! I was able to tug my hem down to a point of some decency, and spent the time with a magazine on my lap to preserve my modesty! I did enjoy showing off my shoes though! One lesson I've learned is if I wear a short skirt with nylons it will have to be a stretchy one!

I haven't been wearing my 61/2" a lot as the weather has been so warm, but it's chilly today so it's back to wintery clothes including, yes, those heels! Not just for work this time though, I had some shopping to do, nothing exciting, just groceries and things, and I was able to park quite close to the shops so I thought I would risk a broken ankle! I still can't walk as easily in them as I should wish, and I shouldn't like to have to carry too many shopping bags for much more than the two hundred yards or so back to the car, but I managed without making a complete fool of myself (I think)! If the weather stays cool I shall wear them more and more, and those 7" are now beginning to beckon! I've kept the 61/2" on ever since I came home, I'm enjoying them so much, and feet permitting I shall wear them later for work. I feel so pleased with myself!

Bubba, they don't look as good as the ones in Hoverfly's posting, unless that's just a trick of the photography. My experience of LSB is that their shoes are rather 'heavy' looking and with thicker heels than some others. Or am I just being fussy?! Jeff, you didn't have to wait long to lure me to that site - and it's a bit odd in some ways isn't it?! However, I take your point about the picture. It seems very economically to combine several male fantasies, heels (of course), stockings (dark ones at that), an ankle bracelet and a short, tight (p.v.c. or rubber) skirt. That's clever, and we don't even know what she looks like fom the waist up! If it were me I wouldn't show so much stocking-top. The shoes are lovely, though!

Yes, Jeff, but I didn't KNOW these things until I signed up for this university of life, the internet! Sometimes I wonder if it's better not to know, but it's too late now! So I'm with JinxieKat on this one!

Posing

Those black patent shoes are practically my ideal! How high are they, and where can I get some?!

I find it easier to slip a court shoe off than a slingback, but I'm quite practised at both. Isn't it strange how something which I have always done more or less unconsciously gives out such messages?! Since discovering all this I now find that if I am being watched I make a point of some shoe-play - one of my favourites is to stand at the supermarket shelves and slip a shoe off and on. Sometimes I 'lose' it and have to stoop to replace it. I think, as I mentioned in another thread, that I must always have 'wobbled' a bit on my heels, and of course standing with one toe turned out a little and the heel tipped inwards is an elegant pose - I didn't know it was supposed to be sexy as well! Love, Anne Louise

Mansion

Ah, you know me so well!

I only drive short distances in heels as they can be quite tiring over a journey. Usually I only keep my shoes on if they have ankle straps as I frequently have to get in and out of the car and it's just too much bother to keep fiddling with the straps. For safety I prefer stockings or bare feet, though good driving shoes are suitable if you want to protect precious nylons.

Bernhard, for me DEFINITELY stilettos (no surprise there then!) and as slender as science and engineering can manage! Also if the heel could be curved in a little at the back (underslung, I think you called it) that would be a bonus.

I agree totally with Lucy, it really IS worth the effort. You won't have to read many contributions on this forum to realise the pleasure that heels give to the women who wear them and the men who appreciate them!

Yes, if I'm wearing an outfit that I know could be thought of as sexy, then the heels are the icing on the cake. They can turn something special into something sensational! And then, of course I feel good - or more likely, bad! This site certainly makes you think! The soles of my feet, particularly the arch, are very sensitive and any slight massage effect of the arch of a high shoe is bound to give a pleasurable sensation. This for me falls into the category of sensual rather than directly erotic, but a lot of sensual experiences combined - the feeling of tension in the calf muscles, the glimpse in shop windows of my insteps more or less in a straight line from my legs, so much of my weight being taken on the balls of the feet and the toes, the sound of those heels on hard surfaces, all added to by any sensuality from my clothes - can give one a decidedly heightened sexual awareness. For me it falls short of arousal, but the knowledge that I'm attracting admiring attention can take it all quite close to a sexual 'buzz'! As a general query, does it matter to the true heel-lover how grungy the wearer is as long as she is wearing heels? As I said in my previous posting, my oufit is important for me to get the most pleasure from wearing the heels, my shoes are an accessory to add that extra 'something' to whatever I'm wearing. If I wear heels with scruffy clothes I simply feel silly and incongruous, much as I obviously like the heels themselves.

Jeff, surely nobody could object if you posted it here. I thought the Kitty/'Cinthy' thing had finished, but as this is where it began then anything relevant surely has to be posted here. Perhaps you could add something about the thread afterwards!

I don't know exactly when, but judging by where we were living at the time I must have been quite young, perhaps 7 or 8. My Mum had a lovely pair of stilettos in a sort of metallic green, with pointed toes. I don't know what height, but I think the standard height in those days was 21/2" or 3", perhaps equivalent to 4" or 41/2" the way they are measured nowadays. I used to slop around in them when they were much too big for me, then when I grew out of them I borrowed my sister's when she was away. Stilettos were right out of fashion when I was in my teens, but I usually managed to find some tucked away at the back of shops or in secondhand shops. Mum had some higher shoes too, but none with that wonderful slender heel, and I've loved stilettos ever since.

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