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Tiffany, Hitting the nail on the head there. You all gotta stop moaning about acceptance and wear your heels, whatever type you prefer, and that is the ONLY way to change acceptance. The more that do, the more will do likewise. Actions speak louder than words. I wear heels every day, maybe not everyones choice around here seeing as they are 3" cuban heels, but then I am enjoying the elevated feeling you everyone else is not. Plus I don't get anything other than positive comments wearing cuban heels as they look right on a man. Simon.

You do have to watch the quality of the items they supply. Since the parent company, Stylo, was in trouble, they have changed their quality standards. A recent purchase has had to be returned, their Beadle model shown below. Firstly I noticed the heel on one shoe was not true, but twisted, so it look ed strange. Then to top it off, the heels are too short so they are not vertical. The shoe in size 9 is perfect for a 12cm heel, but the one fitted is 8mm short. I suppose the heel would be right for the smaller sizes say a 6, but its all wrong at the top end. To keep the look of the shoe, the heel height should vary according to the size of the shoe. Clearly this is not the case in this particular shoe. Nice to see that they are still doing high heels without platforms - ugh!! Simon.

Nice evening. Try Narcisso Rodriguez. Its a great scent. I use the homme, but occasionaly pinch a little of my wife's femme version. Very compatible the two scents. My niece didn't realise NR did the homme and though I was wearing the femme version. Same base I guess, the femme is a little more soft and cuddly. Simon.

Bubba, Certainly I do not, but reading through the various threads on the board, one could be forgiven for thinking that they are the only style of heel that posters desire to wear regardless of the circumstances. Simon.

Kev, I was around then, and great fun it was too, but the heel shape is not right. Block or Cuban then yes, but the Louis styling is not my thing. Simon.

William, Nicely put.

Indeed this is a good thread. It has long been my opinion that it isn't just about the height of the heel, rather it is the style of the whole shoe that is the nub of the issue. Menswear has generally tended toward the functional. Delicate materials and designs are not used. Men's psycology is mostly aimed at the doing so clothing in general follows the needs because of practicality. Now the last thing a nice 4" stiletto heeled shoe/boot, for a man, is practical. Lets face it, its hardly practical for a woman in her geneneral daily activities. This is why is it that women generally are not seen wearing 4" stilettos all the time. They are practical people too and they will choose the right footwear for the time of day and activity. Women do love to wear heels, but the style of the heel varies. Just look around when you go to the mall and see that where heels are worn, they will be more practical/utilitarian in type, either block, cuban or wedge, to give the wearer the stability and ambulatory ease. Now if this isn't a big clue for men, then I don't know what is. It seems to me that we are rather hung up on stiletto heels. Sex, fetish and Stilettos are inseperably linked. In recent times men have become tarnished by the fetish activities of a very few - just look at the hoops you have to go through if you work with children these days. So wearing the item that is so closely linked with sex and fetish is really asking for trouble, if you are a man. Now there is a time and place for everything including men wearing stilettos. Get the time and place right and you'll have a great time. But during the normal day doing your normal things, then if you wish to wear heels (as I choose to do) then be conservative in both heel style, and to a lesser extend, height. Simon.

Happyfeat, Pictures 7 & 8 for me. They work really well, would prefer a shoeboot, but the overall look as excellent and rivals Kneehighs. IMHO, this is really what fashion is about - getting the whole look right. Simon.

Bubba, You cant recall anyone noticing, I guess because you were not out to see if anyone did (you're long past that game). Rather you were shopping. People do notice footwear, but the time of day you were out sobriety rules and so the inhibitions that society runs by were holding good. For those who really want to wear heels whatever they style, then during the daytime and with lots of other people about is just the perfect setting. Sure kids and teenagers may well point you out, but that is because they have yet to confirm to the society norm of ingnoring anything that does not fit in with what has been programmed. This is key and should be used to advantage, and as long you do not telegraph your concern about what others MAY be thinking about your attire, then you will become invisible. Those who do register your footwear will quickly move onto something else that is concerning them. Of course, the style of footwear does have a lot to do with it, but it really is a mind game at the end of the day. I choose very sober styles and block or cuban heels as I believe these suit me better than delicate court/pump styles with slender heels, as I do for most males, but if you want to do 4" stiletto courts then for goodness sake, just do it. Women are often more thorough than men when they do a typically masculine job as they have to go so much further to show they can do the same job. Well heel wearing for us put the boot on the other foot so to speak. If you want to wear heels out and about like the girls do, then you got to be able to do it as well as, if not better than they do. You have to be totally natural in them. Nothing looks worse than a girl struggling in heels she is not able to wear, doubly so for a man. Simon.

Histiletto, you raise a very valid question in your first paragraph. and boylegs is quite correct with his second paragraph. Given that it was only the wealthy men who were the dandies of the day, they were often the officers of the military forces. As uniforms evolved into more practical garments after waterloo, especially as the officers gayly coloured tunics helped the enemy snipers single them out as targets, the uniforms became more drab and not dissimilar to the rank and file so that they were no longer easily spotted. Distinctions between the regiments became suppressed. Thus the individuality of mens attire became generally surpressed also the use of bright colours. This did not apply to the women who were not part of the armed forces and so they continued to dress flamboyantly. Although not the complete answer, the military has a lot of influence in the evolution of mens attire and I suppose this is why we find the typical expensive suit jacket will have a coloured lining. We still want ot express our use of colour in fashion, but it seems within the constraints of a uniform and so these colours are hidden, only being seen in brief flashes. Individualism these days is restricted to the neck tie or the wearing of a waistcoat in formal settings. Really this is still very much the way of mens fashion and the way in which men seem to dress. Simon.

Histiletto, I am with you, maybe you have the impression I am anti-stilettos for men. This is not the case. I feel that there are precious few who will look right aesthetically in them anyway. No I am pointing out that the stiletto heel (also stockings and garter(suspender) belts, basques and other such currently female attire) is a sexual object and is viewed as such by men and women alike. They are promoted as such and women use them for that express purpose. Now seeing as society views all men as enjoying such items for erotic purposes, and lets face it almost all of us do, when men wear such items for other than special occasions such as a fancy dress party, they will be viewed at the least as being strange, more often worse, and it really is an uphill struggle to say you are doing it as a fashion statement and be believed. On the other hand, a pair of block heel boots that women typically wear going about their daily business are viewed as anything but sexy so a man can wear same and now the fashion statement can be believed far more readily. I can't help how society is structured, but sex is key to this. Demonia - You are right with the men and heel origins (well documented) but it really isnt an arguement as this still applies today. Western boots still have heels for the original purpose and no other, but they can be higher than necessary and not look wrong with a guy wearing them. Neither do they carry the strong erotic symbolism of the stiletto heel. Bubba, You are right to say the woman would be able to wear my heels without question, but that wasn't what I was driving at. My avatar shoes would look completely wrong on a woman in a cocktail dress as would 5" patent stilettos on a man in evening dress. Sure my avatars do raise eyebrows, but they start conversations which always have men saying how much they like them and where to get them and the women just love the look. Its a half way house, but you start there and before you know it your going higher and thinner. Are we trying to build Rome in a day? This is still probably the best thread on HHP ATM. Simon.

Stefan, Thanks for posting your adventures. Comments are meant to be constructive and are my own opinion of course. I do like the boots in your first pic not just because I like western styles but they look properly masculine and the heel does not look out of proportion to your build, but not the combination of the skirt and boots. The look would be so much better with bootflair jeans that show most of the heel. The holiday snap, the skirt look is great and don't change a thing there. When its hot the only comfortable thing to wear is a skirt whatever style it is (Kikoy is my preference). Keep having fun. Simon.

Quite simply, the shoes in my Avatar are perfect acceptable for any man to wear. Of course they are, they are made for men. I wear them with my black tie evening dress (aka Tuxedo). Histiletto's avatar is also showing an very nice patent shoe that is perfect acceptable for a woman to wear with a LBD to the same black tie do. All perfectly acceptable and looking right so far. Just swap the shoes between the man and the woman in your mind. Is it possible - yes, is it acceptable - depends, but does it look right - absolutely not. Neither the man nor the woman would look the part, yet they are both wearing heeled evening shoes. Wear the right heel style with the right outfit and there is no problem as the acceptance is already there. Simon.

Raymond, I do agree, but you have to wear the right sort of heel for this acceptance - which IMHO you do. If you had said you wore 6" platform sandals (aka stripper type) then I would take you comment with a pinch of salt, but block, taper, cuban styles that really are very masculine indeed/inspired just blend and work perfectly. However it seems to me that these are not the heel styles of choice as there is this somewhat overwhelming desire to wear stiletto heels and nothing else. For those who subscribe to this, then more pity on you as you don't get the pleasure of wearing heels as Ray and I do. Simple solution, stop moaning about it and get our there and just wear what you want to wear, the world come to an end, and neither will yours. If it looks right, then it is right and you will feel comfortablt and confident. How many more times does this have to be said? Study the overall look and don't focus only on shoes. Simon.

Histiletto, I am all for guys dressing exactly how they wish too - live and let live is my motto. What we as a gender struggle against is the fact that a few perverts have tarred all men with the same brush and that when a man steps out of the norm in whatever way he chooses, he instantly becomes a target. The advent of the internet and 24hr news has only served to bring this activity into sharp focus to the point these days where here in the UK to be able to work with children at all, you have to have a criminal records check carried out on you by each organisation for whom you work. Sadly it is all to true that men seem unable to control their sexual fantasies and do some dispicable things to fellow human beings. It is extreemly rare that women do this, although it is not unknown. The stiletto heel is a thing of beauty to us all, and I might add especially oupled with a nice pair of FF stockings, but its association with sex are very strong indeed, the higher and thinner the heel, the stronger the association. Of course I am not against high heels for men, I want (and do) wear high heels wherever and whenever I wish too as to me it is not big deal. The difference is that I choose to wear heels (made for women) that are not in the least sexy in a woman's eye, or I wear heels like my avatar that are mens shoes. In this way I get what I want which is to wear heels that are greater than 2", and enjoy the experience of doing so. Again I reiterate that if only members would accept that the wearing of stiletto heels for the foreseeable future will have to remain in the privacy of your own space with occasional forays out for parties and/or special occasions, and support the few designers who do produce genuine high heels for men, then you will find that it will stimulate other designers to follow their lead. This is an excellent discussion thread though, kudos to you for kicking it off. Simon.

If there were no stigma attached to stiletto heels and men it wouldn't change a thing. Men generally are not fashion animals and seem to care little about how the present themselves to the world. Simon.

im with everybody here, i dont see stilletoes or any other heels as womens anyway, anyone can and should be free to wear what they want, lets get as many men in high heels as possible, we can do it

MIB, I disagree, stiletto heels are women's heels, because almost all men who wear them can't carry them off. Sure they can wear them and many can walk well in them too, BUT the look is wrong as most men are not slender enough for them to look in proportion to the rest of him. Then add into the mix that most men just don't have the necessary sense to put together a co-ordinated outfit. For these reasons alone, most men will not be able to pull off stiletto heels regardless of height.

BUT - put them into 3 to 3.5" cuban heels and bingo, the look works. Now why would that be? Do you want to be complimented on how you look, and thus feel good about yourself, or do you want to worry about what others think of how you look because you know deep down inside that whilst you can wear stiletto heels, even walk properly in them, you hate the attention it brings.

Now don't go bringing up the old earring chestnut. Sure guys wear earrings these days as a matter of fact, but have regard to the styles they wear. Always plain and simple. Ask a man who wears earrings to swap his plain small gold ring/stud for a nice drop pearl dangly earring and he would refuse. He wouldn't wear a pearl necklace instead of his gold chain, so why oh why would he want to wear a delicate pair of 5" Louboutins when he would relate far more easily to a pair of 3" Harley Davidson block heel boots.

I am well aware that a few members on here have experimented with pushing the freestyle envelope and have become comfortable with how they look, which is all good for them. But whilst I may have complimented them in the past for their boldness and look, none of their posted pictures have ever really made it work for me when they wear stiletto heels. Sorry guys, but that is my view.

Time to seperate the fetish from the passion, certainly where heels are concerned and there is just too much fetish associated with stilettos. Skulking about at 2am in the morning going to the ATM in your 5" stilettos doesn't do you any favours either. Men have a bad enough stigma associated with them anyway, why promote it by wearing what is commonly seen as a sexual and fetish item, and this aspect of stiletto heels isn't going change, probably, ever.

Simon.

k6ps, Well his collections, where heels are incorporated, seem to be western or cowboy inspired. No bad thing as the gals have been there for some time now, and they are just perfect with jeans. Why do you say that 2.5" heels are getting to the "border of high heels for men"? Seeing as the usual maximum heels on a man's shoe is 1", a 2.5" heels is high. Heels of this height give you all the elevation yet do not alter your walk significantly. They certainly do get noticed, but in a positive and constructive way. I don't see these as borderline, they are the logical first step on the way up. It is to be applauded that yet another designer is embrassing 2.5" cuban heels, albeit many years after Gucci and YSL started offering them. The more designers that do offer this sort of height will finally get the attention of the mainstream shoe shops and so the public at large. These need to be seen on models in the mags, then the gals will like the look and want their men to wear them. Once that happens, then you may well see the height increase as the only way is up, although I personally feel that stiletto heels on men will ever be seen as anything other than a gimic to gain publicity by designers. However, this will only happen if guys buy and wear these designer offerings. Ah too expensive I hear the cry, well personally I find that a complete and utter load of bull.... because it seems to me that many on here would, without a second thought, buy a pair of Louboutins if they were available in their size, and they certainly are not cheap! Too much emphasis on the fetish aspect of high heels, and not enough on the fashion and passion aspects. Bravo to the very few who are in the latter camp and boo to those to whom heels are nothing more than an erotic stimulant. Best I get of my soapbox before I get too wound up. Simon.

SNIP.... My pantyhose and heel fetish started years ago when i was in high school......snip

Lovemyheels,

Welcome to the board, I hope you enjoy your time here.

Seeing as we all wish to wear such things, but internally we feel it is wrong, so we hide it from those around us, perhaps replacing the word "fetish" with "passion" would help.

I can't help associating the words "fetish" and "pervert" which of course you nor anyone else on here is the latter. But if that springs into my mind, then it will to society in general. Because we have been conditioned by society to associate a fetish with pervertion it does explain why we hide the wearing of such items. Now when we are passionate about something, we tend to share it with anyone who will listen. If heels, hose and skirts are your passion, then share away like the others who do around here.

As long as we perpetuate the sexual aspect of wearing heels, then in the closet we will mostly remain, and the harder it is for those who wear for their passion.

Simon.

Histiletto, thanks for starting an interesting thread. My perspective is that it is perfectly acceptable to wear heels as a man, but you really must define what you mean by heels. Such a small word but it encompasses so much. However, the thrust of your posting is perfectly correct. The more members of society that do a thing, the more society comes to accept that thing as the norm. Simon

Snip.. The sexual satisfaction I get from my strappy high heel sandals is unbelievable. I am having a blast!

KF,

Whilst I am very glad you are doing what you do, the statement I have quoted from your last post sums up for many why men plus heels is viewed by society as wrong.

Footwear should be part of your fashion statement and maybe sexual empowerment, not sexual gratification.

Simon.

You want male heeling to take off? Keep it conservative, and tasteful. But if you want it to screech to a halt, wear color and style combos that look ridiculous on guys (and most girls).

Wise words Kikepa, but it falls on deaf ears.

Simon.

Simon,

Please stop looking for logic here. It's a waste of your time. LOL

Steve

Steve,

I gave up looking for logic when it comes to women's thinking years ago. By using the inconsistencies that I face, I was trying to illustrate that this question is one that has no answer.

Robbie,

Those are from Archie Eyebrows however, it appears they may no longer be available. Designed and made by Terry de Havilland they were sold at Tom Bakers shop in Soho, but they are no longer available form them. I have tried to phone the studio several times now with no answer, but I keep on trying. Also the price on the website is far more than I paid at the studio. There were plans for a complimentary range for the girls, but that hasn't come to anything.

Simon.

Snip....

Do women really like to see men in heels, say 2 ½ inches to 3 inches or is it just an oddity like seeing a man in a Kilt? I read an article that said women love to see a man in a kilt but don’t want their men wearing one. So what is your opinion?

Hi Robby,

This has been asked many times before on here, but no harm in asking again although you will get answers from the guys mostly.

My perspective is that the bulk answer is NO, but Kneehighs has said and I agree that there is a world of difference between the thought of a man wearing heels and then seeing a man in heels. Heels is such a broad term that in your mind you instantly think of high stiletto heels, whereas a 3" cuban heel is realy quite masculine. I wear that height heel all the time. I wore the shoes in my avatar at a black tie dinner/dance last saturday without a care. My wife doesn't mind the heel because it is a mans shoe made for a man and so on so it is quite acceptable. Her godmother commented on my heels, but that was all the feedback I got. BTW, its a great height for ballroom dancing.

Therefore there is no answer to yoru question because you really have to define the shoe to see if it is acceptable with the outfit being worn.

As to kilts and why I picked it up as a quote, I agree with the article. My wife being a typical girlie girl loved to see her cousin's partner in his kilt, yet when I have expressed the wish to wear said outfit, she thinks I am into crossdressing (I am but not that she knows this little fact) because I am not Scottish and so not allowed to wear a kilt. She thinks it will lead to wanting to wear a normal womens skirt. Don't you just love women as they are so full of contradictions. I have two Kikoys which are west african male tribal garments (google Kikoy). Basically its a wraparound skirt. Only suitable for when it is really hot and I had them for the Maldives. I wore them the whole holiday (2 weeks) and was a comfortable as could be (probably the most comfortable male holidaymaker at the hotel). Kicker was she bought me the Kikoys, so she was OK with me wearing a skirt type garment there, or around the home in the summer and at the beach. I don't get it, but then I am just a bloke.

Simon.

Wolf, Good look. You certainly don't need to restrict wearing those boots/jeans combo to patries. You can wear them just about anytime you wish. IMHO 3" block heels are the perfect height for general daily wear. Next time you go shopping with your wife, wear same as that picture, and you'll see what I mean. My wife accepts me wearing such heels and is fine if we are out together whilst I am wearing them. She has a very definite idea about where the line is though, and I do tend to agree with her on that. If it looks right and natural, then you feel comfortable and no one will take the slightest bit of notice. Simon.