Thighboots2

Sure is a wonderful sound, sadly not often heard. I really enjoy my odd trips into London by tube where me metal tipped stilettos are the only ones heard with the sound echoing back of the tunnel walls. Even with tens of people around me as I walk along their footfall is muted unlike mine Must have been deafening in the tunnels back in the 60s when stiletto heels ruled.

Before acceptance must come tollerance, well for the question raised in the subject line (IMHO). The debate strayed a bit off the subject, but that is down to examples being raised that are similar but not relative. Once tollerance is gained, then slowly acceptance takes over as the subject in hand becomes more widely seen. It helps when the media highlights and explains correctly the reasons behind, aka education of the masses. An example of this was last year when a series of TV programmes was shown called My Transsexual Summer following several MtF and FtM transsexual folk, their stories and evolution. This series was very well done and educated a lot of people about people like me. It has been quite effective too as far as I am concerned, as those to whom I have spoken related to the TV programme and thus had a much beter understanding. The success of a transsexual to get by in the world at large really does depend on their presentation. Society has its idea of what a transvestite, aka bloke in a dress, looks like. Society isn't wrong either, so the transsexul must not conform to that stereotype, but try to look the part and not stand out. Society is more tollerant these days as long as what society sees does not push the envelope too far. Certain types of footwear and clothing is associated with certain types of women. When men do the same, then the view is usually much more hostile as they are seen as a threat to society. Mini-skirts and stiletto heels are typical and sadly will brand any man as wierd, even a pervert, and will make him a target for unwelcome attention/abuse and even physical violence. So my point is, careful selection of female items of clothing will work very well indeed, and if it works will not attract unwanted attention. Footwear is harder as the heel shape and shoe colour is difficult. You would easily, and from personal experience, wear a 3" cuban heeled shoe. Not easy to find and when you do they're expensive. However they work perfectly and there is no doubt that a cuban heel is masculine. e.g. the YSL Johnny Boot. I never felt comfortable being out in public wearing a pair of stiletto heeled plain black shoe-boots. I did it though, and relied upon the tollerant society that is London, but was never really relaxed whereas in a cuban heel I did not feel out of place at all. If only high cuban heels were readiy available for men. Now like many here I wanted to wear stiletto heels freely without the feelings mentioned above. In doing so this caused me to reassess myself, think back over my life, and why I had these desires. The result led me to where I am today. Free to do and wear as I please precisely because I took the ultimate step of shifting my presentation from Male to Female. Personally I really do take my hat off to JeffB because he is sticking true to the "Freestyler" ethos and its juxtaposition of male and female, which he now has down to perfection. But take a closer look at just how Jeff presents himself. Nothing in what he does or wears remotely suggests his underlying motives/desire are of a sexual or predatory nature.He does not present a threat to those around him. Whilst his style may bring a smile to all who see him, his appearance is tollerated. Yes well done Jeff you are an inspiraton to those who wish to do as you. It would be very remiss of me not to metion Kneehighs too. He likewise has this off to a fine art and has proved time and time again that, carefully chosen, female and male clothing can be mixed with great ease.

Thanks for the update David as I was wondering what the explanation behind your temporary absence was.

Provided my phone contacts are still current, I'll be making brief phone calls within the next 10 business days to the following on behalf of the coming meet:

1. admirer5577

2. Firefox

3. fog

4. heelfan

5. heeluis

6. ramon020

7. Si

8. Thighboots2

9. Xaphod

I'll also tap the email of f_private who hasn't been active in almost two years, but it's worth a shot.

Also, soon either one of us might want to start a formal list of Probable Attendees and Possible Attendees as done in the past. The reason for the list is that some of the possibles in the poll, like me, may change and become Probable Attendees.

Well seduce my ancient footwear. I get a mention :-)

It has been quite a while since I poked around HHP, been a lot going on in my life. A good precis is on my profile. I woud love to come along at some point over the weekend, and renew aquantainces from that lovely meal at Morgan Ms. Incidentally I have used that restaurant several times since so whoever found it, thank you. I will keep track of this thread and see what turns up then I can make plans.

Hi and welcome to HHP. I see you also posted your question in the repairs area. When you have made enough posts (read rules) you can post pics as attachments. We have a few "cobblers" as members who will happily provide you with advice and picture is worth a thousand words. So make a couple more posts and then attach pics of your problem. Join in the word association game thread and you will raise you post count quite quickly. As a heeler already I'm sure the rest of the community would like to know your story so to speak. My reaction is find another repair shop. Heels can be replaced and a craftsman will be able to do the job very easily indeed. Cheers for now. Simon.

Directed to this page by Kneehighs. Interesting read, especially the comments that follow the article.

Enjoy. http://www.refinery29.com/lenny-kravitz-heels.php

Simon.

So Jeff, when you going to follow KH and Mal's lead and get down to the night/singles clubs and see how things pan out? It would be really interesting to see if you have the same sort of reactions that they have experienced. Simon.

Mal, Someday you may consider posting a few pics like KH has done in the past showing the outfit of the moment. May well help inspire others. I do have to agree with KH, you HAVE made your mark on the venue, and he is so right on the money with his analysis of your last evening. Enjoy being the "hot property", its a rare thing for a bloke to be. Quite honestly, and refering back to your earlier posts re the ex, you have discovered a new arsenal of tools to use in the social scene that work for you. What was originally a "thing" is nolonger that. Having read the exploits of you and others in freestyling, the best and most positive reactions seem to be only in the club setting. Elsewhere it is much harder going until you really start to understand the whole fashion thing as KH does. Simon

Ron, I think that the time and place have a lot to do with the acceptance angle. Witness Mals report on Kriss where the subsequent date went south, yet she was fully aware of Mal's freestyling. In the right setting, with the right attitude, your going to have fun. Simon

Mal, The juxtaposition of male and female is not going to be to many peoples taste. Nice that she was honest enough to give it a try. Lets face it no matter how you look at it, it is radical, and the lady was open enough to see if she could work with it. Shame it was not to be, but sounds like you are getting noticed, so get back to the club and do your thing there. If - sorry I mean WHEN you land another date, perhaps do the first one in guy mode as you have already demonstrated your freestyling then you can discuss same and let her suggest things. There is a world of difference in the club scene and just going out on a date. GL Simon.

Demonia, Cant answer your poll as my preference is not shown. However, in general and remembering the 70's, I was OK with plats of 1/2 with a block heel back then. I tried thicker plats as they were quite the thing to wear back then, but didn't like them. Personally I prefer my shoes to be less platforms and a cuban heel of 3" is just right. 3" is enough height gain as any more doesn't really turn in height, just makes it progressively more difficult to move around. The Cuban or block heels give wonderful stability whist enjoying the high heel feeling and you don't have to watch where you walk for cracks and gratings. Simon.

Quick research on Hardeep reveals he has a passion/fetish for womens shoes on women. I have extracted his article from the Sunday Observer 9th March 2009 for you to read. To me he is firmly in the camp of heels are for women alone. I am sure we can all empathise with his views on women and high heels though.

Simon.

My passion for women's shoes started with my primary-school teacher, Miss Knipe. She smelled of lady and dressed hip, and hippy. She had Farrah-Fawcett hair, cheesecloth shirts and beaded skirts. She was young enough to be a schoolboy fantasy, and old enough to be out of reach, and every woman I have ever met has been judged against the benchmark of Miss Knipe.

It was 1974 at Meadowburn Primary School in North Glasgow. Miss Knipe was looking lovely, while talking about something educational, when my pencil rolled off my desk. I ducked down to catch it and found myself at eye-level with a pair of women's shoes: Miss Knipe's shoes.

They were chunky cork wedges with a red faux-alligator peep-toe upper, and a delicate strap which encircled my teacher's well-turned ankle. Compounding the architectural perfection of the shoe itself was the pose of Miss Knipe's feet: one wedged heel was placed flat on the ground, the other swung back slightly, the tips of the toes of that foot delicately brushed the ground ...

It was the start of an obsession. My name is Hardeep and I am a women's-footwear addict. Let me be clear though: I am addicted to the images of women wearing shoes, boots and sandals. I have no desire to pop my size 11s into a pair of Manolos.

As a child of the Seventies, there was a degree of inevitability to my obsession. Women were emancipating themselves. Bras were torched by a new generation of free-thinking, sexually liberated and politically aware women. This should have meant dull shoes, librarian shoes; the sort that enable a woman to walk a long march in dungarees, while holding placards. Women could have co-opted footwear design back from the fantasies of exclusively male designers. But they didn't.

Shoes in the Seventies were sexier, more sensual than they have ever been, before or since. Knee- and thigh-high boots; heart-stoppingly high heels; a plethora of platforms ... I was born when the shoe evolved from footwear into a weapon of mass distraction. But that doesn't explain my fascination with women's footwear. If it did, my contemporaries would be equally fascinated. When the Eighties arrived, and women began smashing glass ceilings, they would have been as delighted as I to discover that Chanel released seven variations of high heel every season. They too would have noted the lengthening of toe and a more slender heel. But I seemed to be the only man addicted to fabulous footwear. Me and the nation's transsexuals.

I am not in recovery, either. Just last week, I saw a foxy redhead wearing a foxier pair of Olivia Morris shoes. For a moment I forgot my own name.

So why am I so excited by shoes?

Perhaps it's science. Psychologists have noted that our cognitive abilities develop as we crawl. And what would appear prominently on our horizon as we learned to crawl? Shoes. So perhaps my love of the ladies' shoe comes from looking at my mum's feet at that crucial stage of life. That would make sense - except that my mum wore little other than Indian sandals. It wasn't until the late Seventies that she embraced the iconic polo neck, nylon trousers and court-shoe look, and by then my crawling days were over. Perhaps it was this dull footwear at home that led me to become fascinated with the exotic, gorgeous potential of other shoes out there ...

Most women's shoes sell sex; I like those shoes. I'm not interested in those that are androgynous, unisex. Or the Ugg - so called because every man who lays eyes on them says 'Ugg'.

I celebrate the elegance and engineering of heels: I've found myself holding up a single Christian Louboutin in a vain attempt to locate the fulcrum of balance among the leather, wood and raffia. The first pair of Terry de Havilland's I ever saw were under glass as an exhibit, part of a retrospective of his work. It was fitting for these dramatic creations to be treated with reverence.

I am fascinated to hear my female friends talk about their favoured pair of stilettos or boots. They talk about power and confidence, self-expression and the desire to be seen. I found myself sitting opposite a blonde Amazonian on a train, talking shoes. She spoke eloquently about the control she derived from adding five inches of stiletto to her already impressive six feet.

The Nineties compounded my shoe lust. For the first time I had disposable income to spend on women's shoes - and a wife who loved to wear them. What a joy to be able to choose and hold and cradle and admire every shoe available - safe in the knowledge that I had a woman by my side to legitimise the whole thing.

But there was an interesting disparity in what I would have chosen for her and what she chose for herself. I went for the more obviously sexual statement. I loved her Chloé block wedges, the sensual strappiness of them; I purchased her first pair of Marc Jacobs studded black boots. And her peep-toe Miu Mius, so Fifties and so sexy. It is ironic that, a month before we separated, my wife came home with a pair of knee-length black patent Pradas.

There are few big trends any more which, for an aficionado like me, is an advantage. You can get pretty much any style, at any time. Perhaps the last couple of great revolutions in women's footwear were the embracing of the anti-feminine Ugg - and you already know how I feel about that - and the Frye-driven, Cuban-heel, utility movement. The latter I found more acceptable: particularly when worn with above-the-knee skirts; because then the Frye is an invitation to reverse every cowgirl, if you know what I mean.

This season, we've witnessed the birth of the ugly shoe. Shoes that are ugly, furthermore, in imaginative and designer ways. Prada has the newest offering with its Trembled Blossoms range. Blossoms are beautiful; how, then, has Prada managed to launch the ugliest shoe I have ever seen? Properly ugly.

In my lifetime (I am just under 40) I have owned about 200 pairs of shoes, boots and trainers. I currently own six pairs of Birkenstocks, seven pairs of Bally shoes, a pair of Kenneth Coles and an abundance of Adidas. I like my shoes, but I don't love them. Love is reserved for ladies' footwear, shapes and sensations that ghost through my mind.

If we men really do think about sex every six seconds or so, perhaps the trigger is women's shoes. Let me be clear. Women in the right shoes need worry about little else. You are goddesses and I can think of nothing I would rather do than wrap myself round your Jimmy Choo'd feet, warm leather against my grateful face. Just you, me and the right pair of shoes ...

I can't pretend I don't think about what might have happened to the fragrantly beautiful, wedge-footed Miss Knipe all these years later. I hope her life was full of great shoes and perhaps she is somewhere, somehow, slipping her beautiful feet into a brand-new pair of Louboutins

KH, Cool or what. The holy grail no less. I can't think of anyone I have met that would fit in in that institution better than you. Hope you land it. Simon.

KH, Seems to me like she's interested despite her words concerning heels and models, but playing you along. Two can play that game and you do it so well Plenty more fish in the sea as you so ably demonstrate. I do so love reading yours and Mal's threads as you both demonstrate that the initial attraction is in the fact that you are fashion concious and thus have immediate common ground with the opposite sex. I guess this is why so many guys don't get what you are doing, but who is having more fun? Simon.

To me the man sounded almost homophobic about the idea of heels for men. The woman demonstrated the openness that Kneehighs, Malinheels and others have written about in their threads. He clearly thinks that men should continue to be restricted in their approach to fashion using only hints of colour in an otherwise drab exterior of baggy ill-fitting clothes that somehow are deemed to be what we want to wear. He also expressed his opinion that mens legs should always be hidden. What tosh. Also he did engage his mouth before his brain in that he admitted to cross-dressing for professional reasons. His speech stumbled at first then his brain realised what he started to say and he had to finish the story much to his embarasment. He probably really enjoyed the experience, but seemed to be desperate not to show it. Simon.

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Could i have asked for a more perfect answer? what a girlfriend i've got! she is truely amazing!

Indeed you could not and it is a refreshing change to find your partner being so open minded.

One small word of advice, not that I wish to dampen your enthusiasm, take it steady, don't push too hard or it will backfire on you. Be subtle and let her take the lead for a while and see where it goes. It will make shopping trips together much more interesting as invariably a lady always likes a man who takes an interest in her standard passtime.

Good luck to you.

Simon.

Nice boots Marcus, My experience is that if you have regular guy type feet, then do go up one size. Like all italian made shoes, they run narrow even in guy shoes (as you are no doubt aware). I find width is my problem, and one size over is perfect - for me. Simon.

Mal, First off, you do not need professional help. It seems to me that you are truely being yourself these days. That you ex can't handle it is quite understandable, after all she is "programmed" just as we all are, and your past hiding of your desires and feeling wierd only reinforces that. You have come to terms with this and actually you are using your new tools to great effect. Indeed your using heels, hose and skirts is a real wolf in sheeps clothing thing that IS attractive to women. How many more times do people have to demonstrate this. Sad thing is that the more that do, the less impact it will have, so get in there quick. I would certainly NOT stop doing what you do in your social scene. It works for you. Of course, if you want to broaden your wearing in a similar manner as Dale Miller did so long ago, you will face similar issues as he did, and maybe that is where your ex is coming from. Of course, she is a lost cause and you are probably correct in that she will be negative in her comments about you to your daughter. Here though is where you can be totally open and honest with your daughter. It does depend upon how mature she is though and only you can be the judge of that. She will require, nay demand, both you and your ex to be tollerant, understanding, and supportive of her once her teenage is reached and it cuts both ways. In reading your exploits, you are having a great time and working the situation well. Still room for improvement as you need to close those deals as KH would say, however you are making lots on here really jealous. So given that you are quite at ease in the party scene, is this something you wish to do more of in your daily life or are you going to reserve this for "clubbing"? Only you can answer this. Perhaps if you can answer this for yourself, then you will see the way ahead with your daughter. Good luck what ever you choose, but please don't get back in the closet. Simon

Of course I do, but as I don't wear overtly feminine styles, i.e. stiletto heels and pointy toes, it isn't a big deal. Simon

Excellent job Mal. Top marks for doing it the right way. You are having a great time and enjoying your passion for heels and skirts at the same time. Best of all is that you are doing it at the right time and place, just as Kneehighs does. If yours and Kneehigh's threads don't teach other guys that are in exactly the same position as you both are romantically speaking, i.e. single, then there is no hope for them. Actually I think that your choice of trousers and heels over your preferred skirt was probably even better than you realise. Powerful stuff. Simon.

Still sounds like double standards to me. Any relationship is based on trusting each other completely, and from what I am reading, this doesn't quite seem to be the case. Of course you may be trying to be protective of her when she is not in your company so that she doesn't end up attracting unwanted attention that she can not handle. A caged bird will always fly away if it gets the chance, whereas the uncaged bird will stay. Simon.

KH, Whilst I agree it is the whole person - following your journey of discovery, it wasn't always so. Your development, which you have documented so nicely, didn't deal at all with the inner state at first, and was more concerned with developing a style statement. Your "adventures" allowed you to both develop your new style (which you seemed to get right almost immediately) and thus lead you to be able to focus on the more important aspect of backing up the intial attraction generated by your appearance with the far more important interesting personality. How often have you seen a really attractive woman yet been turned off a few moments later by the initial conversation. It is still the case though that what is seen is the opening gambit, and this needs to be backed up. A careful balance of the inner and outer self, and whilst that is different for each person, the principles you continue to demonstrate apply to all. Simon.

Just as well you bought the wig then Andi Glad you had a great time. Simon.

Hmmm indeed PIB, I couldn't agree more. z9120946, seriously you need to get real. You need to get a hold of your feelings and allow, nay encourage, your GF the freedom of her choice of clothing and to go clubbing if she wishes too. You would certainly resent her intrusion on your choices. From your message above you are going the right way to saying goodbye to her. Sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander too. Chill out about it, be secure in the relationship. Partners do not want to feel they cannot express themselves within the confines of a relationship. Plus there is nothing better at buffing up a guys ego that have other guys see you together. As you say she reads this forum, you can ask her what her reaction is to this post. Simon.

From my persepctive, and KH will correct me if I have it wrong of course, but this is what works for him and the social scene in which he moves. The point of his postings is to demonstrate what is possible. His lines will always be his, but they have been honed through time and experimentation. It has been, and continues to be, a wonderful journey that KH is on. The BIG lesson from KH to all guys is not just to experiment with your chatup lines, but you need to concentrate on your whole image. This is what others see first long before you get to use any line whatsoever. That is the initial attractant. It doesn't have to be flash or designer, it has to be co-ordinated and stylish. Little things like the rolling up of the sleves of the jacket, clothes to be clean, neat and pressed, Colour coordination of accessories, hair properly styled to your choice, hands manicured, nasal and ear hair removed, and so on just as a woman would do. You need to ensure your deportment is good too, nothing ruins a look more than not carrying yourself well, male or female. Do women dress to impress men, rarely IMHO, they dress to impress other women. So these little trifles that men totally overlook are picked up by women and it is very important to them. It says more about you than you can ever imagine. You don't have to be a hunk to attract women. Sure there are those who do, but take a closer look and they will also have paid attention to the details that women notice and that just adds to the appeal. I hate to say it but heels are somewhat irrelivant to the whole thing, they just add spice. KH, I love your thread, most inspirational. Simon.

Jaryl,

Probably for the best, and you never know when you'll need it again

Again a bit late in the day, but for eye makeup, noting is simpler than http://www.eye-majic.co.uk/ these strips are great. I got them for all the ladies in my family for Christmas last and it was a big hit (and not an expensive one either).

Simon.