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I read that article from top to bottom - interesting read! I didn't know Kate Winslet was a size 11... I know two of my favorite women (Tyra Banks and Paris Hilton) are, so that's cool to know.

I also took this test

http://quiz.ivillage.com/beauty/tests/Shoestyle.htm?par=msn|fashion|bs|related%20%20%20&iv_cobrandRef=msnwomen

and it turns out, I'm a pointy-toed stiletto/slingback

LIKEWISE.

IMHO, the white boots look kind of cool, but the black boots, both styles, look, well...ludicrous. I think it is the shiny patent, more than anything else.

Heel"expert"-- How about practicing "what's good for the goose is good for the gander"? How about if we turn the tables, and put the "tough confident Asian girl" in charge of the game, and put YOU in the heels, and see how fast YOU can go in them?? How about if we dump the sick sexist (and dare we say sadistic) game and come up with something a little less titilating to the perverts of the world?

I have an avi file that I downloaded sometime ago of a Lizzie McGuire episode which featured the girls running down the hallways in their high heeled platform sandals. Illustrative of at least one proper technique. Hillary Duff wears high heels, and moves in them, quite naturally--as if she was born in them. I copy her way of walking all the time. It is not, actually, a Lizzie Mcguire episode at all, but the Lindsay Lohan movie, "Mean Girls". Sorry bout that.

That's so funny Doc! :rofl: :rofl:

You're right about him being a moron. He might think he is intelligent but there is no need to be so offensive!

On the contrary, driving thumbtacks in with sledgehammers often IS necessary with certain (questionably?) members of the human race.

I believe WE are the evidence of extraterrestrials' existance--we, and what we collectively as the human race have defined as God, or "the Gods" (or, for that matter, "the devils"--see for example James 2:19, KJV). After all, what IS an intelligent life form a billion years ahead of another, if not a god?? Or a devil? Or both?

To quote a familiar (to Mormons, at least) couplet attributed to the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith:

As man is now, God once was.

As God is now, man may become.

Bingo, Bert. I find both the look and feel of men's shoes to be rather "overlarge and clunky."

I once compared a woman's heel and a man's shoe by wearing each on different feet. I found the woman's heel to be graceful, elegant, and it felt light and comfortable. I found the men's shoe to be overly bulky, clunky, and it weighed about twice what the woman's heel weighed! Felt like wearing a brick, to be honest with you.

I'm a complicated mishmash--I agree with all both Bert and dr1819 said, I wear women's boots and shoes for comfort, and to relieve certain anatomical difficulties I have explained elsewhere, but I also wear women's shoes because they are feminine, and I still get sort of a rush out of it. That said, I probably will never own anything higher than 4-1/2"--because I simply don't find most women that I've actually seen wearing anything higher all that sexy or appealing--and I have found that that, more than anything else, is what drives my freestyling fancy. I want to experience wearing what I find to be sexy and attractive on women--which is why I have never had much interest in wearing skirts--I don't find them all that appealing on women either, although certainly more so than on men, particularly myself.

Could probably get to Vegas, as it is only a tankful away. SoCal is out of the question.

I couldn't possibly condense my monstrously eclectic favorites down to just 5, but to illustrate the "eclecticity", I will list 5 favorite, more or less oldie artists from various genres, : Joan Jett Boney M EmmyLou Harris ABBA Vivaldi, especially as performed by The Academy for Ancient Music and Ofra Harnoy, among others ...and 5 more that are arguably more up to date: The Cruxshadows Loreena McKennitt The Offspring Tina Sugandh Shania Twain Just don't force me to listen to Jazz, especially Big Band Era crap (with the notable exception of Cab Calloway).

You should go--do not collect $200, just go. North Carolina beats Louisiana any day of the week as far as climate and scenery goes, even without a potential female friend. Especially in and around Asheville.

I voted for keeping it, if for no other reason than it gives the obnoxious and/or truly bigoted a way of inadvertantly "outing" themselves in front of the rest of us. If one were to severely edit the thread in question so as to remove the name-calling, and leave just the arguments for and against, it would be an informative discussion. Should be J-Turbo's pennance, and he might learn a thing or two about the difference, but he probably couldn't be persuaded, even now, that it should be done, much less that he has a problem that he should rectify. Not that I am completely innocent either, you understand.

Has anyone tried ordering from Pierre Silber in Canada??

Dr. Shoe def takes into consideration the varying angles, just doesn't specifically include it. For example, the angle most certainly would go down as the size went up for the same heel height. I vote for his def as well.

It's likely the article largely written by a internet savvy male heel or skirt wearer. Who else could be arsed to write an article on such a subject? It could therefore be a teeny bit biased although he has made some effort to make it appear unbiased.

If anyone thinks it is wrong, then why not edit it yourself. As long as your edits are vaguely sensible they will probably stand.

Actually I got the impression from an earlier post that genebujold wrote and submitted it to wikipedia, but I may be wrong. The writing "style" sure seems reminiscent of him, as well as the general tone of the information.

The oxfords invite the wearing of a certain, complete "look", as in a very butch school marm, as depicted on Saturday Night Live many years ago, perhaps updated to a feminine pair of black wool pants, instead of the hobble skirt that I (erroneously?) remember. The look would not be unattractive on a guy dressing sort of "en femme", either, seeing as how guys tend to have shorter, e.g. more "butch" hair cuts anyhow.

It occurs to me that there are different kinds of courage--physical, where your life is in danger, and social, where your psyche, or "id" is in danger. Men, in general, are very well endowed with the former, perhaps due to testosterone? Men have very little social, or in this case, fashion courage. Perhaps the way to effect change is to challenge men's manliness--in general, and in particular, by inferring that a lack of courage in any respect, is a deficit in their manhood, or something similar. Any thoughts??

Laurieheels--for honesty, entertainment, and making the site worth coming back to early on. Genebujold--for honesty, knowledge, and attempts (both on the board and in everyday life) to further the "cause".

I would volunteer. But hey, why not make it a downloadable, or marketed with a CD, with either flash or avi videos of men confidently walking in them, included? Makes the idea a lot more belivable, rather than just a few stills (anybody can POSE in high heels, after all).

There's a sex shop north of the strip on main street or las vegas blvd, not sure which (they join before the strip), that sells fetish boots and shoes in the back. Nice selection and sizes, if you're into that sort of thing.

I paid $125 for a pair of over-the-knee black suede gaucho-heel boots from Zappo's once. These days, though, $30 is about my max, I'm afraid.

I have exactly 2 pair of men's jeans--one too small, with 40" inseams, and one that fits but have 33" inseam, with paint stains all over them--I use them for really bad work.

I have at least 20 pair of women's jeans, nearly all low-rise, mostly purchased at www.alloy.com, a few at Delias.com, the now defunct GFLA.com, at talletc.com, and The Gap. Inseam varies from 35" to 38". Nearly all are made with 2-5% lycra-cotton denim or twill. Since I currently weigh ~235 lbs, sizes are 17, 19, 20, or 21. One pair of super stretchy very low rise jeans by Bubblegum are size 15. The majority of brands are MUDD, Paris Blues, AbbeyZ, and IT.

If you're going to go to the trouble and potential embarassment of looking at the size tags of women's jeans, you could look a little closer and see if there is any lycra content. If there is, chances are they will stretch to fit even a man's frame, if you buy them one or two sizes smaller than what straight cotton denim would require. That way the butt isn't hugely baggy on you.

During the mid-80's to early 90's, I wore legwarmers over tights under the pantlegs of Anti-Contamination coveralls.....to keep my legs WARM on cold windy nights (wind chill factor -70+ degrees F.) on grave shift "drillbacks" into the radioactive core of recently fired underground nuclear "shots". 'Twas a cheap (and lightweight) alternative to the drilling roughnecks' $50-$75 insulated coveralls (which they had to get under the Anti-C's--and lose if they got contaminated). Fortunately I was careful enough to avoid the embarassment of being discovered with them on by getting myself egregiously contaminated someplace other than my hands.

There is, unfortunately, a very marked, almost paranoic, tendency in the human psyche to hide one's personal knowledge about a forbidden subject that said person is intimately involved with, to the point of avoiding the display of even normal knowledge about the subject--because one is now not even sure what normal knowledge would be--be it high heels or other women's attire, or industrial espionage. At some point, you're just going to have to take a risk, and see what develops.

With what everybody else has said, I add my prayers.

Do you live in Utah? If so what part?