fastfreddy2

And while I'm on .....

The other pair of high street ankle boots (old-speak for shoe-boots) I've been trying to get my hands on are a pair of these in black size 8. Sadly, the day I saw them I didn't have the 'where-with-all' to make the purchase. Must've been in 10 Next shops trying to find the right size/colour since with no positive result.

In several shops where I've asked for the size I want, I've been offered the opportunity for them to be ordered for me. Which might be useful if there were still in stock somewhere (they ain't - I've checked.) Even got smiled at by one of the men assistants while in Milton Keynes trying on the (illustrated) tan version.....

Mindful I struggled to find an 8 in Tesco, and an 8 in Next, two things are obvious.

1. At a time of retailers finding it hard to get sales, not having stock of popular lines in all sizes seems a bit of a lost opportunity.

2. There is an obvious demand for heeled shoes in the larger sizes. Seemingly unmet in at least two of the high street stores?

From the experiences of several others here, service and attitude isn't a problem. Possibly finding (enough) suitable product is more of an issue?

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Background:

I like banana heeled boots and shoes, though I don't currently own any.

I wear ankle boots almost exclusively, because I've got incredibly thin legs (due to cycling). I don't do strappy sandals because my slim feet slip through them ....

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When shopping in Tesco the other day, I noticed they were selling a very attractive banana heeled ankle boot (shoe boot) with leather uppers for £25. Took me a couple of visits to different branches around the county to find an outlet with my (expected) size, but wouldn't you know it, my local shop had exactly the size I was looking for!

Tried them on at home. Fitted length wise, but were huge otherwise. Obviously designed for a size 10 or 11 with no toes ..... So they had to go back.

The interesting bit:

For one reason and another, I returned the ankle boots later today at around 10.45pm. Place wasn't that busy, but it wasn't empty either.

I found the girl who was supposed to be helping on the Customer Services counter, (wandering around the tills) and asked if it were too late in the day to return something, and was told it wasn't. I went back to my car (parked very close) and returned with the boots.

I walked up to the counter, where me and the girl assistant were pretty much alone. The conversation went like this:

Her: "You returning these yeah?"

Me: "Yes please."

Her: "For you?"

[Now mindful this is my home town, I wasn't about to 'fess up.]

Me: "If they were for me, I'd need a size larger." *giggle*

[Which got read as; 'I need a size larger.]

Her: "Did you look to see if we had the size you need?"

Me: "No, I said 'if they were for me, I'd need a size larger', like a size 9!"

Refund was concluded, and I left.

Conclusion:

Men buying womens shoes for themselves at Tesco, is a lot more common than I would have believed possible. Obviously, I live in a town significantly more cosmopolitan than I knew.

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Next shoes are 'true to size' I've found. They run slim (which suits me) so you can buy with confidence.

You'll need to buy quickly though. Their styles and especially the larger sizes disappear quickly. Recently experience tells me.

They must really be envious of your high heels. Nice outing for you. Congratulations.

Roni, I'd so like to think that was true, but I suspect it was pure disbelief.

With either, I wasn't at all bothered. I thought both were rude for staring, but I've done the same with girls wearing high heels, so should know better than criticise.

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First camera, Pentax ME -F.

When I sold the Pentax, I then bought two Nikon FE2's. [One always with fast B+W film, the other with slow colour film.] The idea if Nikon over Penax was that many specialised acessories could be hired from the likes of Pelling & Cross. I got a dedicated Metz 45 for the Club and small amount of fashion work I did.

For portraits I then bought a Mamiya RB67, with Polaroid back (amongst others) and 180mm lens. To make sense of buying this, I also shelled out for 3 monoblocs, and a good number of backgrounds and accessories.

With the exception of taking some recent product photo's when I used the monobloc's, all of the equipment listed has been boxed (as new) since I sold my house/studio in 1989. The Nikons saw a fair bit of use, but were looked after.

I've heard the digital vs film arguement many times.

Film provides better tones, and more detail. Anyone who thinks otherwise, has not used 'slow' film. When enlarged, detail remains astounding.

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Did some (stiletto) heeling at night at a resort on the Spainish mainland about a month ago while on holiday.

On two longish nights out, think I got 'spotted' possibly 3 times. Every time by women/girls.

First couple of times while we walked around bars at the busy end of the resort, amongst (sometimes) larger groups of people. Noise is good.

The last time was during again, a fairly long walk along pathway immediately adjacent to the beaches. We passed many people walking. Groups of men, women, youths playing midnight football. [i guess after work.] No one showed any interest, except one elderly woman with her dog.

She rather indiscreetly looked at my feet almost the whole time we walked toward each other. After we passed, every time I looked around (3 times) she was watching my feet.

Coincidently, had the same thing happen to me at Bletchley Tesco just yesterday. I walked along the mezzanine toward the downward moving stairway, and a black woman employee practically broke her neck watching me as she also pushed a cage full of clothes along the sales walkway.... Obviously had something of a sheltered life?

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No, you're not too late. I just recently discovered that Debenhams raised the price of the bag back to the original (it was on sale before), so I'll put that bag on hold. I might need shipping help in the future though, can I contact you guys then?

Debenhams are having a lot of Blue Cross sales, or promotional weekends. Keep your eyes peeled.

Great thread, indicating the trial and tribulations of first outings. Although I've been out quite a bit in heels now, I still feel like a newbie. I'm beginning to think it's something you need to keep on at. I've spent most of summer (what summer) walking about in trainers or heavy walking boots. I'm starting to get used to wearing heels out more frequently again, but still not been able to get them on daily. Working to change that, obviously.

Explain please. To me it sounds like when your man puts on a pair of shoes with heels, he is less a man.

The perception is that he's less of a man.

You can intellectualise it not being the case all you like, but unless you have control over the life history of everyone you'll ever meet, you are inevitably going to meet a lot of prejudice. Mrs Patentheel is wisely (IMO) taking the precaution of shielding her family from the harm that prejudice can inflict.

Even adults are not often able to tolerate verbal abuse, though being an (experienced) adult provide the best range of tools for the job. Mrs Patentheel is waiting for her children to grow into people strong and wise enough to make their own decisions, before they have to make choices they may not (currently) be equipped to live with, in the aftermath of the choice they make.

There's plainly no need to rush.

PH will be wearing heels when the children are older.

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I'm possibly too late, but I'm happy to ship anything (legal) to anyone outside the UK. Obviously at someone elses cost, of course.

Thanks for the offer and please do not take this the wrong way, but I feel this is something I want to try out on my own first

No problem.

I'm going away.

Good luck with your initial ventures. I guess we've all been there at one time or another, so most of us appreciate what you're going through. It's quite important you don't 'beat yourself up' over what you don't do. It's a big change going from in-the-house heeling to street heeling, no matter how short or quick the visits outside might be.

I started off, by walking around empty streets away from where I live at about 1am. If I did get 'busted', it wasn't going to be in front of my neighbours, and (very) early morning ventures meant less chance of me meeting anyone anyway.

Enjoying the anonimity (sp) of being one person amongst hundreds or thousands of people and better yet, being one half of a man/woman couple, brings a feeling of security we can usually take for granted in everyday life. Being part of a small mixed group practically guarantees 'invisibility' in heels. Or so I've found anyway.

So good luck, and stay calm.

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Impressive! Highly impressive! You did very well with both pics. My favorite of the two is the first one, I'm assuming you're wearing Louboutin pumps in that pic. Quite nice indeed! More power to you!

Both are great outfits. I think I like the one with the boots and shorter skirt better, but you couldn't go wrong with either one.

What they said.

I also think shorter/tighter skirt on photo #2?

I really like the outfit in picture No.1 and think it's about the "perfect" (distract me all day long) officewear. Great style.

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@fastfreddy2 - I am located in Camberley, Surrey.

I don't know how you are fixed, but I will be at Lakeside this Sunday morning 2nd November (without heels while in the centre as I have a business meeting there). I'll be visiting TK Maxx afterward, possibly Matalan, and the Next outlet, all of which are away from the centre, and I'll be wearing heels in all these shops.

In the afternoon, I'll probably be at Bluewater, in heels. [i've practically bought shares in the House of Fraser/KG shop there.]

While I expect to be with my wife, I may not. I've also invited Euchrid along as he's been looking to get out somewhere with heels. (He's MILES away from both these venues, so I doubt he'll be able to attend.)

Anyway, my proposal is that you meet me (or me and wife) and you have a brief/not so brief stroll around the centre with me/us. With you wearing some low heeled (or flat) shoes?

Whatever I have on my feet will be discreet, or at least discreet-ish. I don't wear stilettoes out in daylight. So I'll be wearing silent wedges, practically invisible 4" block heels, or what (usually) pass as men's cowboy boots.

No pressure, but you might find it easier if you have company. Will PM you my mobile number if you are interested.

Bluewater is a great place to go heeling, especially if you are being discreet about it.

-FF2.

@Histiletto:

If I were to be me (free and uncaring to those critical of the 'free' interpretation of my own style) and walked amongst those equally free to express themselves, I doubt it would take 2 hours before I would be beaten to a pulp!

Social conformity ensures our streets are safe to walk on, and that we don't get robbed and raped while away from the safety of our homes. Social conformity has us "civilised" in a way that means we don't need to carry weapons when we visit the local supplies shop.

You might consider some of the benefits to conformity, when you next have a soapbox moment?

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Thank you all for the great advice you have all given me. I know I don't have to go out in heels, but I really do want to experience it myself. If I don't try it at least once, it will bug me forever. When that day comes, you will all be the first to know about it

"An hour from London" covers a huge area.

Where are you? (Your County will suffice.)

Possibly I have an idea but it's dependant on your location.....

thank you for the reply. the absolute main reason i do not wear heels is i'm in the military. So weither i'm married or not or been to the desert to protect everyone's freedoms. it doesn't matter. perception (he's gay kick him out) reality i'm not but it doesn't matter. that is the reason i don't want to put my wife throught that. If it were accepted to wear what you want i'd be all over it; but i can't because we are a shoot first ask later group. my only choice would be to just wear them at home. until i retire.

Once again, your situation is not so unusual.

I'm not in the military, but everyone in my social and business circle would respond the same way.

I get around this by having something of two lives. The regular one, and the irregular one. I get what I want outside my normal social circle. It's not perfect, but it works. For the most part, I do it with my wife, and we both have a nice time doing it.

We have days out together, me wearing heels, often she not. The world doesn't end, and although I walk past what must be thousands of people during a day out, the worst that happens is one or two people notice I've got heels on.

As many others here will tell you, just about the only thing that stops you really enjoying your interest, is you. I REALLY get where you are being in the military and having the interest you have. But like any other 'intimate' interest you might have (I'm thinking 'odd-sex' here) why does it need to be shared with people outside your relationship with your wife?

If you can find a way to allow yourself some pleasure from your interest, possibly you won't find it such a handicap?

If timetables and family commitments allow, why not have a day out together in another city (or for that matter, another country) and you wear some heels while you're out? I'm not recommending you wear 7" platforms and a short skirt walking around streets in daylight. But maybe some block heels under trousers, and if your confidence rises, maybe some thinner heels during the evening while out having dinner?

As with my remarks >> here << you have the contrary (opposite) experience. Everything to do with heels makes you unhappy (or at least it seems that way). Whereas most here have very positive experiences. Seems like maybe you need some positive (pleasurable) experiences, that might make you more comfortable with your interest in heels.

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i know it's not always true but i can't help feeling diffrent. i sometimes just want to be like everybody else. My wife says she doesn't care but i felt bad puting her in that position. and i still don't wear them around her.

Some of my life's observations ...

Usually people like to be a little different, maybe even a little 'special'. In many respects we are all individual, but in the great scheme of things, we are not as individual as we might like to think. I'd suggest all of us (whoever we are) will be 95% identical to every other 95% 'similar' person around us.

Me being here amongst many like minded people, was (a) a very pleasant surprise <verging on relief> and ( an indicator that I'm not as 'individual' as I thought. I continue to doubt many people are.

If a person you live with, are close to, spend a lot of time with, who doesn't like something about your character, you would know. They might say it doesn't matter, but to you, it would be obvious that it does.

Many of us here will be shocked and disappointed you feel so badly about your interest in wearing heels. I voted for the pill simply because I prefer a little more control over my life than I have at the moment. I really, really really really really enjoy wearing heels and looking at/being around people who also wear them. I can't imagine why you seem to feel so bad about doing the same?

You must know from being here, your interest isn't so unusual, and this place must REALLY be the tip of an iceberg. How many more of us don't spend any time on the internet? And how many that do, still haven't stumbled across the site? I'd been on Bulletin Boards for over 5 years before I came here....

Believe me, you're not as 'different' as you may think. With only a couple of exceptions, every person I've met off here looked like every regular person I see outside in the real world. In other words, they are regular people but are discreetly and deeply interested in high heels. It's part of our character, part of the 5% of us, that makes us what we all like to think of as; "unique". Except I doubt any of us are.

You simply must find a way to stop feeling so bad abut you being you. You're obviously married, and that could only have happened after a reasonably long period of courtship and getting to know each other. Sounds like she loves and cares for you. I fail to understand why someone who is loved and cared for by their partner, would find it so difficult to let themselves be loved and cared for. It will seem to all of us, she is happy for you to be you. It's a great place to be .....

Can I offer some advice?

Allow yourself the freedom to be you for 3 weeks, and allow your wife to help you, be you. [Even if that means the only contribution she makes is she remains indifferent to whatever you have on your feet.] This might be the first step to you accepting you for what you are; a fairly regular person.....

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A couple of times I wore my ex-girlfriends black suede stiletto thigh boots on the back of her bike. It was a lot of fun, although a couple of times she did tease me by offering to stop off at a pub!

Chris

What a sense of humour!

Here in the UK, removing shoes is no longer compulsory, "random" checks are made. I took a chance and wore 4" knee boots. [Cowboy style, but are waay too long and waay too tight to be anything but 'girlie' boots.]

Well, I got pulled, literally. Security wanted my footwear scanned so I had to pull both off in front of MANY people including I suppose people on our plane and maybe our hotel at the resort we were on the way to.

Sadly for us, the flight got scrubbed anyway, and we began what turned into 26 hour journey to get to Spain.

Next day, [technically 2 days later] I went through Security wearing flats. Unbelieveably I got yanked again! Chap at the counter couldn't even see my feet so it was actually random. Thankfully I didn't have my 'hard to remove' heels on the second time. Once through though, heels back on straightaway. Barring a short afternoon nap of about an hour (waiting for a second flight while booked into a hotel) I wore those boots for 27 hours of the 28 hour (in total) journey from home to resort. Journey was terrible but wearing those boots for so long was heaven.

Coming back through Security in Spain (Malaga), I thwarted the Security people 3rd time around, by wearing transparent 'jelly' sandals. Then changed into my boots in the Departure lounge for the journey home. Even got picked up from the airport wearing them.

This is a link I kept from another thread (somewhere.)

Not quite ballet boots (ahemm), but stylish and practical [in black] if looks are an indicator.

This topic has already been addressed for almost three years now:

http://www.hhplace.org/guys/4950-share_your_best_freestyle_fashion_pictures_here.html

I think he maybe looking for a short library of pictures, rather than a 100+ pages of posts that maybe time-consuming to access?

Possibly the members gallery might be a better place for Mr Coyot to find what he's looking for?

I did think of going to see a doctor about it but having spoken to my wife I came to the conclusion that "its not harming anyone" and "its not eating away at our funds" so it isn't really a problem.

You are a lucky couple. I'm not at all jealous (for a change) as I have have pretty much the same kind of understanding woman here with me.

I think being as self-aware as you are, is a (very) good sign. The both of you talking about it, and coming up with a conclusion that suits you both is very attractive too. But the fact you thought to take advice suggests you maybe don't feel you always have the 'control' you feel you should? For example, ever seen some shoes/boots you really liked, and walked away from them?

No, me neither.

Keep vigilant, but try to be careful the fear of losing control doesn't do harm in itself. [Don't stress youself up bud.]

There are many here who are able to support us, with experience and good wishes. But we each are our own masters, judge and jury. We each have to live with our demons, and usually only we each truly know if they have the upper hand.

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What a great question.

I guess my question is rooted in the fact that I don't think I'll ever have the courage nor the partner's support to go out in public dressed as I want. Yet every day, that is exactly what I think about

Therefore if you could take that dichotomy away and you wouldn't miss it (that's the key part) then I'd probably do it...

I voted "yes" because I too feel this frustration.

This is not the best moment in my life, relationship, etc... and I really think the need for high heel wearing is making things more difficult. Yes, I would take the pill to solve it.

Note that this is not related to personal desire but to make life easier in the country I live and with close relatives and friends.

I voted "yes" because I too feel this frustration.

call it a hobby or obsession but i'll stay as i am!!!

My obsession is starting to bother me, so I said "yes".

Now How about a Pill that would change our foot size so that we all could walk into any Women's Shoe Store and buy any style we like.

YES!

Now there's a person who can think laterally. I'd take that pill too!

I understand why you would ask the question but I would not take the pill. I do not feel anything is wrong with me, however, I do not want to be rejected by society.

I think the best we can do is get together as a group of guys in heels. That is why I am for meeting.

Let's face it. I think we wear heels because we wished more women in our lives would wear heels. I think it is like being with your dream girl when you wear heels.

I also don't like the prospect of being rejected (does anyone), so I voted "yes".

Total agreement here! I feel truly liberated to be myself when I am out and about in heels.

Oh my yes. I wish I could be satisfied with a nice tidy collection, but more and more I need, repeat NEED, for example, a black pump with a 3 inch heel, 3 1/2 inch heel, 4 inch heel, etc. Not to mention the money that I spend on jeans and trousers specifically to wear with m heels. Maybe the pill I need is for OCD, not for heels.

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Now I may be interested in that one. Today I saw dozens of great shoes that were one size too small. Well on second thought, it might be better if I passed on that one as well.

I guess I have found that there is nothing that cures what ales ya like a day in very nice shoes!

Another pill I'd like to take.

Hey people, I'm not sad or upset about my compunction to wear or be around heels as much as possible. It is getting to be a bit of joke that when myself and my wife go out, I'm usually the one in heels because I can walk all day in them, and she can't. (sadly)

I guess the summer here meant I spent less time in heels than I wanted and feel a bit frustrated by it. There's no way I'm going to live long enough to see men wearing HH as 'regular' attire, so I'm always going to be an irregular guy. And it's not what I'm about really. Not at this stage of my life leastways.

Yes, I'd like to have smaller feet. (One size would do)

Yes, I'd like to remove what sometimes feels like OCD.

Yes I'd be happy to NOT have a thing for HH as there's easier less obtrusive desires I might satisfy.

But there's no magic button or pill, so I guess it's down to making the most of what we have. And fortunately, some of us have partners that allow us to have a pretty 'happy' life (for the most part) obsessing about heels.

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I can tell you it wasn't a wasted trip and with my heart racing and incredible rush coming over my body, I made my purchase and left the shop.

Given the racing heart and the "rush" feeling experienced, I struggle to find the words to explain how in-animate objects such as a pair of heels can be so powerful as to make one feel like that.

I get the same feeling whenever I look around shoe shops and see the heels on display, especially with all the fancy lighting which makes them shine.

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What's going on, can anyone explain? Does anybody else feel like this?

Yes, I have the same (extreme) feelings.

It's association.

I'm not going to try to give a deep meaningful explanation (tired) but the heels are filling the 'school-boy crush' part of your life you don't have and you miss. [Excitement.]

For me, they are pure fanasy. [Wich historically I've usually managed to turn into reality.]

They're attainable (unlike so many of the things I enjoy that aren't any longer), and I get a continually reinforced satisfaction from their attainment. It's a not-particularly-healthy-place to be really. Some may not like the label, but I've seldom refuted I have an obsession. I believe you have one too.

I'd offer it's not a problem as long as it doesn't become unhealthy, though a qualified doctor might be the only arbitor of where the healthy/unhealthy theshold is. Asking me would certainly be a waste of energy because I'm well into the questionable side.

I hope you can take these words in good spirit. I've been fairly self-effacing about me, and I'm certainly not trying to be unkind to you or anyone else either.

As always, loving your avatar.

Perhaps at the point he became so enraged that he carried out his attack, he really didn’t care if he lived or died.

Of course, it's a consideration. But typically [which includes 'not always'] suicides do the deed at the bloodbath. I suspect drink had far more to do with this initially, than rage. Since all three women were alive when he left the scene, his reasonable expectation was they would survive. My understanding is the women bled to death, (waiting for paramedics) the wounds themselves not being lethal in and of themselves. Certainly the two sisters didn't survive, and that would have ripped the heart out of any family, regardless to whether they were mothers. It looks like guilt got the better of him.

I personally believe, the fear of being caught and being executed is a deterent. If not to all (and I'm sure it isn't) then certainly it is to some.

Any person that is issued a permit to "carry a concealed weapon" by a authorized state agency, must, as in my case, complete a rigorous training program conducted by a qualified, licensed small arms instructor. The course of is long. The personal evaluation (personality profile) is thorough and comprehensive. The chances that any person that has successfully completed this program turning his firearm on a policeman for being stopped for a minor traffic infraction is very, very small.

Over here, sporting and target rifles can be legally owned if enough hoops are jumped through. Everyone applying has a personal interview, and a background check. Two referees must be offered, with each having known the applicant for a minimum of 2 years. Having to go through this process, with the cycle time being anything up to a year (in parts of Wales), it would seem foolish to throw away that effort just to argue with a Policeman.

The system isn't perfect, but firearms crime by 'legal' owners, is (almost) unheard of.

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