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I really hate these "reality" TV shows. But I heard a mention of this episode where they had guys walking in heels, so I had to check it out. You can see the clip here:

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1571723&vid=181895

Wow - 2nd row on the left, the pumps with no platform - I want those! Where did you get them?

I have those pleaser pumps in size 12, and they are too big! Normally with the heels that high, size 12 is perfect for me, but these seem about 2 sizes too big! The heel is 7", and I can't walk in them.

cool - i just put in a bid for blue sz12. thanks for the link

I agree that we are at a standstill, and I don't want to turn this into a huge argument... but this is a subject I am passionate about, so I am compelled to respond again.

In todays paper in Perth there is an article about a woman who sued and wom AUD52000 for not being warned by the hotel management that when she gets out of the spa her feet will be wet and therefore create the possibility of her slipping on the now wet floor. Apparantly she was not responsible for wetting the floor when she got out of the spa.

That story shows the ultimate in human depravity, in my opinion. That's where the "nanny state" mentality leads - nobody is responsible for their own actions anymore, and stupidity is rewarded. In that kind of world, what incentive does anyone have to be responsible, or to use their brain for anything?

All I have to say is that if you do not want the government interferring in your life, do you have a ss#, ein# or even a credit card???? Do you feel that we should not have to pay taxes in the US?? The government has already interferred in your life.

The only reason I have a ss# and pay taxes is that I will be sent to jail if I don't. The government has a monopoly on the use of force - that's exactly why government must be limited. I agree, the government has already interfered too much in all of our lives. I am in favor of complete laizzes-faire capitalism. The freest nations on earth are also the most prosperous, and history has repeatedly shown that socialism and communism do not work. So why not go all the way to true capitalism? Any amount of socialism in this "mixed" economy of ours hurts us, in the same way that any amount of poison in your drink is unhealthy. I say, eliminate the poison altogether. The government should not be involved in the economy.

However why do you think that a large number of people getting injured should be ignored?

Because they are being injured by their own choice. Nobody is forcing them to work there. If my boss poked me with a sharp stick every day, I would quit - I wouldn't ask the government to pass a law that says bosses may not poke their employees with sharp sticks. (That's a silly example, but you get my point.)

Sorry this is so non-high-heel related, but I enjoy a debate like this.

I agree with Bubba. Private business owners should be allowed to make whatever rules they want for their employees, and hire or fire anyone they want to. Employees are free to quit at anytime if they don't like their employer's rules. The government has no place telling business owners how to run their business. If the employer's rules truly are unreasonable, then free-market forces will not allow him to stay in business very long, because nobody will want to work for him! I say to the cocktail waitresses, if you don't want to wear high heels, then don't be a @#*damn cocktail waitress! The only proper role of government is to protect individual property rights, and to protect individuals from the use of physical force by others. If the casino owners were forcing their waitresses to wear high heels at gunpoint, then yes the government should get involved. Otherwise, the goverment should stay out of business and economics altogether. But this is a discussion for a philosophy or government forum, not a high-heel place!

Wow, Gene - you've got the dream life as far as I'm concerned! Your wife making you go out as a woman... that's amazing. That's one of my ultimate fantasies! How can I find a woman who will do that with me?

As a swimmer in high school (400m relay), I never shaved my legs. But as an amateur bicyclist in college, I did. After the third time, my girlfriend introduced me to Nair.

Since then, I rarely go hairless. About the only time I borrow the wife's bottle is when she makes me, as in the four times in the last two years she got the hankering to force me to wear what I wear around the house out in public.

Generally speaking, it's little more than a comfortable skirt and a pair of sandals, and almost invariably in the summertime.

She'll start by putting the bottle of Nair next to my shampoo in the shower - often right in front of it. Although I "wonder what's next," I know what's coming. She'll lay out a pair of medium (2-1/2 to 3-1/2 inch) heeled sandals of modest taste, along with one of my more favorite, full-length skirts.

It's up to me to complete the picture.

After nixing the hair, I usually use her Neroli detangler on my hair, followed by a brief stint with her makeup case applying a touch of shadow, liner, etc. Not enough to show - just enough to make a slight difference, one that says "hmmm....???" instead of "it's a guy."

I follow that with one of my favorite shirts from either International Male or Nordstroms (usually a front lace-up), then often a very subdued polish, such as Revlon's 450 (glow light) and topcoat.

After that, she comes in and gives my hair a few twirls, and we're off. The only reason I can pull this off is because of a problem of unknown origen whereby I, for the most part, skipped puberty. About the only looks I get when I go out like this are from the few guys who're more interested in trying to find upper-level curves than brains.

Strangely enough, although I feel perfectly comfortable wearing a skirt and heels at home around family, I'm still very uncomfortable wearing them in public. Doing a touch of cross-dress alleviates my discomfort considerably, even though personally, I more or less disdain the idea of trying to "pass."

I'm male, and like it, and would much rather society change to allow people to dress in whatever clothes and shoes they so desire.

But hey - that's just me...

Over my 2 week holiday break, I finally played through Zelda on the N64 - terrific game! Medal of Honor on the PS2 is an awesome WWII first person shooter. Metal Gear Solid for PS1 is one of my favorites (and the original Metal Gear was my favorite game on the original Nintendo.) Lately I've been playing the new Castlevania on PS2 - it's much better than I expected! The graphics are VERY impressive, and the whip action is bad-ass! I also have an affinity for old-old-school role playing games like Wizardry, and Might & Magic. Has anyone played the new Zelda on Game Cube? I'm thinking of picking one up just for that game.

Hey, Sway, what kind of shirts/tops do you wear with those jeans?

Does anyone know where I can buy some heel tips for stiletto heels? One of mine broke off, and now there's a metal shaft poking out the bottom of the heel. The heel tips are either plastic or hard rubber, but metal tips would be even better. I'd prefer an online store, because I'm still afraid of going to the store in person. How do the tips attach? Just glue? Thanks!

Those are great! Very curvaceous. Sounds like a great experience at the shoe store! I'm jealous.

I agree that honesty is the best way to go. If anyone asks, just say "I like them." What can they say to that? I personally am still not brave enough to wear heels out in public by myself, but I often imagine how I would handle people's reactions and confrontations, if I had the courage. I would keep it short and simple: I imagine if someone said, "Why are you wearing those shoes?", I would just say, "Why not?". And if they then said, "Because they're women's shoes", then I would just shrug and say, "So what?" And then what can they say? Just keep your responses honest, innocent, and polite. After that, if they were rude enough to insult or ridicule me, I would start to get offended and say, "What's it to you? Why do you care what I'm wearing?" Or, "Nobody's saying you have to like it." And just end the conversation. Of course it's all easier said than done. But I think the key is to first convince yourself that you're not doing anything wrong, and if anyone has a problem with it, it's their problem not yours. Then if someone is inconsiderate enough to insult you, you should get angry at them for being such a jerk, instead of feeling guilty or embarrassed about it. Imagine you wore a striped shirt to work one day, and someone came up to you and said, "Man, that's an ugly shirt - why are you wearing stripes? You look ridiculous!" Would you feel embarrassed and guilty about it? No, you'd say, "F*&$ you, a%@hole! What's your problem?" Obviously it's a little different when it's high heels, but I think you have to adopt the same kind of mindset - as if the shoes are a normal and acceptable thing for you, and anyone who would insult you is just an inconsiderate jerk - and who cares what an inconsiderate jerk thinks? That's my theory, anyway. I imagine when I finally have the guts to wear heels regularly, that's the mindset I'll have. Anyway, good luck! Let us know how it goes!

Thank you all very much for the suggestions!

Very nice picture Laurie! Lookin' good! Great shoes!

There's nothing feminine about any of those boots.

i hate the fact of not having a choice without ridicule from the general people.

I know exactly what you mean, Daz. I'm not comfortable unless I can keep a low profile and remain unnoticed by other people - I've been like that my entire life. But at the same time I have this overwhelming desire to wear women's shoes, which would make me instantly noticeable and an obvious target for ridicule. So there's no choice - either I suppress my desires to wear unusual shoes and be miserable for the rest of my life, or else I wear what I want and constantly run the risk of people noticing and/or ridiculing me, which would also make me miserable. So it's a choice between being miserable in private, and being miserable in the public eye. It's a no-win situation - it means I'm doomed to a life of unhappiness and frustration. How do you deal with that?

I think I've seen Bakers mentioned somewhere in these forums. I see a couple styles of boots I like on their website

http://www.bakersshoes.com/

Particularly the styles Rebel, Mystery, and Chiquita. But they only go up to an 11, which is borderline for me. Can anyone tell me about the fit? Do they generally run bigger or smaller than you expect? How's the width and the toe room?

Thanks,

D

Does anyone know where to find flared jeans for men? I've looked around at all the stores I know, and I've searched the web for hours. But they just don't seem to exist anywhere. I'm still afraid to shop in the women's section, and I don't think I would find anything there that fits me anyway, because women's styles seem to be very low-rise. It's really frustrating. Even here in LA, I can't find the kind of clothing I want.

A belated celebration of my cute "kitten" heels - it feels good to finally have some girly shoes...

I didn't think anyone on this site cared about the trends. (lol) Aren't we all about fashion freedom? Who cares what anyone else does or says? Come on people, that's what I admire about you - that you're not afraid to go against the trends.

I think those are awesome - I wish I had your courage and self-confidence.

Very carefully. I've only told 3 girls I know. I usually wait until a related topic of conversation comes up, or try to steer the conversation that way, and at first I only tell them, "I like high heels", or "high heels turn me on". (Not "I like to WEAR high heels".) Their reaction to that gives me a clue about how they might react when I tell them the "full" truth. If they seem interested in the topic of clothes and shoes, then that can lead into a discussion of societal "norms". And if they seem interested in that topic, and they seem to be free-thinking and open-minded, then I tell them. The first person I told actually beat me to the punch line, after I told her "I like high heels". She playfully said, "The question is... do you like LOOKING at high heels, or do you like WEARING them...? :)" And I said "well...." and continued on from there. This was on an internet chat, and it was late at night - that seems to be easier than in person. But I did tell the next girl in person - but I wasn't quite sure how she would react. I really wanted to tell her because I noticed she wears just about the same size as me. I told her I wanted to talk to her in private about something, and that got her curious... And then I rather sheepishly danced around the topic, sort of trying to "ease" my way into it - and when I finally told her, she thought it was kind of funny and silly, but she was totally fine with it. And the 3rd girl I told is a friend of the 2nd girl - I was going to go out in heels with the 2nd girl, and she invited her friend along, and assured me her friend would be cool with it. In fact, she INSISTED I wear them, and really twisted my arm, and it turned out she was right - her friend was totally cool with it. I think she was sort of taken aback at first, but she didn't react negatively - she almost reacted in a scientific kind of way, as if she was thinking, "Hmm, that's curious..." And as it turns out she seems very intrigued by it - I've been out with her a couple times in heels - and she wears the same size as me! She has promised to let me go through her closet one of these days - and I am anxiously awaiting that day! So it's always difficult to tell people, but it is the greatest, most liberating feeling to be able to talk to someone about it. And I've had some terrific experiences going out in heels because of them and their support. So I'm really glad I took the risk. I've never told my closest friends or my family. I have no interest in telling my family. And I'm not sure how my friends would react. I think it's easier to tell people who don't know you quite as well yet, rather than people who have known you all your life. And I find it much easier to talk to girls about it than guys. Well, that's my 2 cents.

I can't see the picture - when I click the link, the page is blank...

Those look like fun!

NICE. Thanks for that post.