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Dear All,

Just to say goodbye and thank you.

I have requested that my photo thread is removed from the board due to the constant negative attitude shown towards me by Heelfan.

Clearly I upset him, not just because I'm a woman with the audacity to wear heels, but when he was exposed on my thread as cheating fellow board members by posing as Lucy!!

I apologise to those who have shown me fantastic support during my time here (you know who you are, particularly Dawn HH, Shrimper and of course RPMindy. not forgetting Gina who now stands alone!)

Eventually Heelfan I'm sure will achieve his goal and drive all the female posters away from the site.

For those who do like to see women in high heels I have my own forum.

http://www.phpbbserver.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=heelsplus

Ellen-Jay :D

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The shoes aren't sensible, so why is the talk?

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Other than some political distractions that went on for a time I was not aware of any friction taking place here. I would hate to see Ellen-Jay leave because of some type of harassment. She is one of the reasons I come here. Its not often you find women who can relate to us foot guys. The name of this place states what brings us together. Why do we have to let other unrelated issues split us apart. Sorry to see you go Ellen-Jay. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and may the God of your choice bless you.

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You'll bo greatly missed, E-J! I for one have always enjoyed your photos.

Shafted, the boots that is! View my gallery here http://www.hhplace.o...afteds-gallery/ or view my heeling thread here http://www.hhplace.org/topic/3850-new-pair-of-boots-starts-me-serious-street-heeling/ - Pm me if you want fashion advice or just need someone to talk to.

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Judge for yourself:

Heelfan

Post Posted: 2005-12-23 Fri 14:16:03

The red shoes are fine, but in her picture of 26th November, does Ellen Jay have to subject us to a pair of naked breasts bulging down to her thighs?

The home page of this High Heel Meeting Place clearly states "This site does not contain any nudity or pornography". That is what I normally like about these Megaforums - a nice sleaze-free site where we can admire nice high heels and high heel wearing without the all-to-prevalent tacky shots of boobs and genitals etc. and pseudo-bordello interiors. Give me a clean-cut street-shot of a nice well-dressed girl striding along in high stiletto heels any day!

Notwithstanding this protestation, I am pleased that 99.9% of the posters on these forums do in fact respect the above policy on the home page.

Cheers, Heelfan

http://hhplace.org/hhboard/viewtopic.php?t=3840&start=660

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hallo, sorry to hear you are leaving Ellen-Jay. You pic of the shoes light-up this forum very much. And also the small amounth of ladies in here we had to try to keep. This is a place for every body who loves high heels, a lot of man but the woman wears them mostly and they are here free to speak. That a slight of your boussom wear show at the last pictures is in my eyes NO pornografy: A photo with a special eye wear to get the focus, the decollete of the lady or the red high heel pumps she wears. And still be mostly protected by clothing. During summer on the streets men can see more breasts even with little wear, or look at the beaches without the tops :wink::D . Is this the freedom of America where the most porn is made but thies semi clothing breast not be seen in public? Where do we get: a lost of a nice lady who lovers her heels!!!! :wink: Sorry to hear but go on you heels A3

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I'm sorry to hear that you leaving this board. It clearly shows that most of the guys here are afraid of women and the female body. You are the latest woman who was forced out here by these "men". The list of women who is forced out of here includes Debbie (HK), Laurie, Jane, Susan, and the woman who started it all 7+ years ago, Jenny. The same group of guys who forced you out made slanderous and sexist remarks about them years ago, on and off the board. It clearly shows that there is a core of guys that wants this forum to be an all-men, boys' club, sausage-fest. You can clearly see this happening in posts over the past few years. Unfortunately they are one step closer in succeeding. Thank you for the great posts and the best of luck to you. Dan "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!!!!"

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I'm not scared of the Female Form... but I think that someone who charades as a Genetic woman called "Lucy" but is actually a guy (Heelfan) has SERIOUS issues!

but I think scaring off our REAL lady (not counting CD/TV/TS or genetically male) Members deserves some rather big repersussions!

I think I saw that Pic Heelfan was talking about... I didn't see "porn" here... I saw a classy pic!

Heelfan is Pissed off that Ellen- Jay saw him for what he is... a dirty old man posing as a a beautiful woman....

BTW I always thought something was fishy... nobody saw pics... but miraculusly Heelfan always said he did!...

BTW if I get REAL WILD, it's because a GENETIC Lady has had to leave because some moron has driven her away!!!

later,

TXT-1

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In any case, let's just say that someone did post an inappropriate pic. It has been my experience here that if you respond to the posting asking the image to be removed or edited, that the original poster will correct their mistake. I have never seen EJ ever post any pics here that could be deemed pornographic. I too am upset that she felt her only option was to leave.

Shafted, the boots that is! View my gallery here http://www.hhplace.o...afteds-gallery/ or view my heeling thread here http://www.hhplace.org/topic/3850-new-pair-of-boots-starts-me-serious-street-heeling/ - Pm me if you want fashion advice or just need someone to talk to.

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I don't recall the picture in question, although I think I would if it had been unsuitable. It's sad that anyone M/F should feel forced out by comments made by others irrespective of the rights or wrongs. As I understand things, the moderators have the say so as to the content of the forum. If they are happy with it, then as an open, broad spectrum, group, we should accept it [even if it isn't to our taste]. What happened to the common intrest in heels?

totter along into history

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hey I don't think I'll get angry - I just think I might Join EJ's forum! and drop HHplace like a Bag of shit! hey if they have more to talk about than "do you think this would be good for streetheeling?" or orther boring crap! I'm outta here! later, TXT-1

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The comments made do seem to be under his real name so I don't understand where "Lucy" comes into the equation. Now, I'm not trying to defend or support Heelfan's comments however, I never saw the picture in question and despite the link can't find it either so I can't possibly comment. It is obvious though that what some people call pornography others call sexy and I'm afraid to say that HF comes from an era where good girls never showed their knees so it is understandable that he may not like to see these things but this is 2005 and things are different now.

Graduate footwear designer able to advise and assist on modification and shoe making projects.

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Ellen-Jay:-) I am saddened by the fact that you choose to leave the Forum because of the statements of one person. I'm sure that those statements were not meant in a injurious way, but as an expression based on the era during the life lived by that person. Please reconsider. Your pics, IMHO, were always quality, and very lady-like, and I, for one, will miss your tasteful comments, fabulous pics, and witty conversation very much. A very Happy New Year to you and yours, and may you always remember the many good friends that you made here on the HH Place Forum. May your future be bright and the best of all things for you. I will remain always your friend. Cheers--- Dawn HH

High Heeled Boots Forever!

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It is truly sad to see one of our favorite posters leave due to the unwarranted comments made by another, so let us resolve this in the new year by abstaining from such matters. If you have a problem with a pic or a posting, POLITELY discuss this with the person - perhaps exercise some discretion by PM'ing the person? Abstain from making "attacking" postings. After all....aren't we here to ENJOY ourselves in our many discussions? If people keep doing such activities, it will degrade this proud community to a slim-pickings ghost town that no one will have any fun with - or even want to be around anymore.

SQ.....still busting societal molds with a smile...and a 50-ton sledge!

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Well, I don't know if you'll ever read this Ellen-Jay but you'll be sadly missed around here. At least we can still see you on your own forum and on your Yahoo group. One of our very few remaining female members bites the dust. :D Chris

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Seems like the easy way out to me. Why let the comments and actions of one person stop you from posting here? Please reconsider Ellen-Jay. I don't know you but it'll be a shame to lose another female member over one silly fall out with another member. We wouldn't stop wearing our shoes if we had one person give us a negative comment now would we! Shame it has come to this really. Everyone's contribution is valid here along with yours Ellen-Jay.

Heel-D - Freestyling since 2005

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