kneehighs Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 The following article found in Smithsonian Magazine When Did Girls Start Wearing Pink is probably the single best historically documented resource I've ever found that proves the concept of clothing as masculine or feminine is absolutely socially constructed. I reordered some of the photos the article includes so they appear in strict chronological order, beginning with a photo from 1870 and ending with a Boy Paper Doll from 1920. The second photo is a photo of FDR taken in NYC approximately around 1884. This is article provides conclusive evidence that gender which revolves around clothing is totally socially constructed. Feminine Style . Masculine Soul. Skin In The Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve63130 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Good find, Kneehighs! Thanks for bringing the article to our attention. It ought to be standard required reading for anybody looking at us heelers in disdain. "Odd" is in the eye of the beholder. What's odd to us now was socially accepted convention in the past. It applies not only to children's clothing, the subject of the article, but to men wearing high heels, stockings, tights, skirts, powedered wigs, satin, jewelry, cosmetics, brightly colored fabrics, and lace, all of which were once worn proudly by men. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fashionablefun Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 What I find interesting, Kneehighs, is the attribution to the advertising industry, of which I'm a part: The rise of consumerism directed at children making them "the subjects of persuasive and sophisticated advertising that tends to reinforce social conventions. So they think, for example, that what makes someone female is long hair and a dress." Conventions become standardized when media is ubiquitous. Some independent thinking, outside conventional media norms, by parents (and society) would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Hey there, kneehighs! That was an absolutely fascinating piece which made for fascinating, insightful reading. I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saudade Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 So normally I hate these adventure posts, but it looks like kneehighs posts are interesting. http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlearts/2013/10/15/fashion-the-french-revolution-and-a-masculinity-in-continual-crisis/ Food for thought, its rather covered in feminist phrasing as a forewarning but worth a quick read. I never really thought of the effects of the french revolution upon western dress. Or at least the impact it had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve63130 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Good article, but not an easy read. Nevertheless, don't let the highly academic vocabulary scare you from reading it. The best part is the the last, where it pertains to the fashion that interests us here. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneehighs Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Albert Einstein in open toe pumps? http://www.transadvocate.com/einsteins-fabulous-footwear.htm Feminine Style . Masculine Soul. Skin In The Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikekicks Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 He ( Einstein ) was rocking the short pants/crops/capris long before modern women! REPEATEDLY ARGUMENTATIVE, INSULTING AND RUDE. BANNED FOR LIFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneehighs Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 So in part because of my efforts at personal branding as of late, it's come to my attention how important EMOTIONAL BRANDING is. In fact, I'd argue that EMOTIONAL BRANDING is more important than any other kind of branding, since emotions quickly bypass the logical noise inherent in an oversaturated marketplace. Emotional Branding is a concept that starts with Carl Jung's emotional archetypes. There are 12 emotional archetypes. Each provides emotions that are universally desired. In marketing, Nike activates the HERO archetype. This requires a contrast between Villain and Hero. The villain in Nike's case is the weaker self, the self that wants to procrastinate, the self that doesn't want to get out of bed in the morning. The Hero is built around constant repitition of "just do it now" or "be empowered". This branding can also extend to an additional option of how to explain our desire to wear heels. In addition to other proven methods, we can use the Rebel Archetype to explain our desire to wear heels. You could virtually paraphrase word-for-word this quote from Apple, which taps into the Rebel Archetype. Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do. Gotta run, but just some thoughts to spark your minds. 1 Feminine Style . Masculine Soul. Skin In The Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZShoeNut Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 So in part because of my efforts at personal branding as of late, it's come to my attention how important EMOTIONAL BRANDING is. In fact, I'd argue that EMOTIONAL BRANDING is more important than any other kind of branding, since emotions quickly bypass the logical noise inherent in an oversaturated marketplace. Emotional Branding is a concept that starts with Carl Jung's emotional archetypes. There are 12 emotional archetypes. Each provides emotions that are universally desired. In marketing, Nike activates the HERO archetype. This requires a contrast between Villain and Hero. The villain in Nike's case is the weaker self, the self that wants to procrastinate, the self that doesn't want to get out of bed in the morning. The Hero is built around constant repitition of "just do it now" or "be empowered". This branding can also extend to an additional option of how to explain our desire to wear heels. In addition to other proven methods, we can use the Rebel Archetype to explain our desire to wear heels. You could virtually paraphrase word-for-word this quote from Apple, which taps into the Rebel Archetype. Gotta run, but just some thoughts to spark your minds. Love it! Life is short... Wear the bleeping shoes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thighbootguy Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Just as a matter of personal pride, I hate fitting into any category. But, using an expression appropriate for this forum, if the shoe fits, wear it. TBG I dream of a world where chickens can cross roads without having their motives questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve63130 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Kneehighs, Great post, as always. I agree that most of us are rebels in that context. I certainly am. Thanks for the thoughful comments. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneehighs Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 Just as a matter of personal pride, I hate fitting into any category. But, using an expression appropriate for this forum, if the shoe fits, wear it. TBG Hey I hear you! But even that comment in it of itself typifies the Rebel archetype...reinforcing how effective it might work for you Feminine Style . Masculine Soul. Skin In The Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudulitooo Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 KH, thank you for putting the right words where they belong ! Old threads like "would you continue wearing heels if they became mainstream for men ?" tried to provide a validation to this assumption. Yet it definetely lacked the good vocabulary at the time. Another definition that could fit to me, is I am adventurous, but I do not want to engage too much. So I need a joyful, light hearted, real life, easy to set up adventure that does not hurt anybody. Video games are boring. And movies I have seen enough. I am too old for gettiong sensations on bikes or snowboards without threatening my health too much. Not bold enough to engage in the army. I don't want to give up my familly. Yes I know there are numerous other possible activities. Fishing, etc. Heels, why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneehighs Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 http://four-pins.com/style/8-womenswear-items-you-can-wear-yourself/ http://www.theguardian.com/fashion/sharpened-lead/2014/mar/20/five-womenswear-items-men-wear-too Some thoughtful articles on men adapting womenswear with a legitimate fashion interest. Feminine Style . Masculine Soul. Skin In The Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shafted Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Interesting. Shafted, the boots that is! View my gallery here http://www.hhplace.o...afteds-gallery/ or view my heeling thread here http://www.hhplace.org/topic/3850-new-pair-of-boots-starts-me-serious-street-heeling/ - Pm me if you want fashion advice or just need someone to talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffB Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I agree. Most intriguing. I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saudade Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 From a more scientific bent:http://youarenotsosmart.com/2014/06/06/yanss-podcast-25-how-the-clothes-you-wear-change-your-perceptions-and-behaviors-with-hajo-adam/ While it doesn't touch on anything like what we talk incessantly about here, it does bring up interesting questions regarding clothing in general. Also apparently I need to buy a lab coat if I want to screw up less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneehighs Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 From a more scientific bent:http://youarenotsosmart.com/2014/06/06/yanss-podcast-25-how-the-clothes-you-wear-change-your-perceptions-and-behaviors-with-hajo-adam/ While it doesn't touch on anything like what we talk incessantly about here, it does bring up interesting questions regarding clothing in general. Also apparently I need to buy a lab coat if I want to screw up less.Very cool. The relevant discussion doesn't start until 22 minutes in. Feminine Style . Masculine Soul. Skin In The Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saudade Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Very cool. The relevant discussion doesn't start until 22 minutes in. Whoops my bad, forgot it took a bit to spin up. I tend to listen while running or going to work so I tend to forget about those little details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneehighs Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 Whoops my bad, forgot it took a bit to spin up. I tend to listen while running or going to work so I tend to forget about those little details.No big deal. I was notifying others to save them the time. It was very interesting listening. Feminine Style . Masculine Soul. Skin In The Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve63130 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Kneehighs, Good articles. That the media are even talking about men adapting women's apparel is a very encouraging sign of what the future holds in store. I'm elated that fashion freedom may indeed be a two-way street someday. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneehighs Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/20/clothes-aren-t-for-men-and-women-anymore-they-re-just-for-people.html Best quote from the above link is from Valerie Steele: “Clothing, fashion and adornment distinguish—they identify who you are. And one of the primary things we’ve identified, that we’ve wanted to identify, is our gender,” Valerie Steele, director of the Museum at the Fashion Institute of Technology, says. “But now, for a number of men and women, gender has become something that’s not so important for them to emphasize in their clothing. They feel there needs to be something that people can wear just as people.” Our culture has reached what Time magazine recently called A Transgender Tipping Point. We are now in the age of gender tolerance. Go forth and wear what you want. Feminine Style . Masculine Soul. Skin In The Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve63130 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 This is a very encouraging milestone in our progress as a civilization, which has for too long emphasized sameness and fitting into the pigeonhole determined by your sex instead of letting you decide where on the gender spectrum you prefer to be and what you want to wear, and more importantly, developing tolerance for your decision. The handwriting was on the wall 15 years ago when I started www.actisvkin.com and the trend has been gaining momentum ever since. Guys, we're just ahead of our time - pioneers, if you will (and remember, the pioneers were the ones with arrows in their backs!). Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneehighs Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 POLARIZING OUTFITS FOR ATTRACTION So here's an idea. Attraction is often based on polarity. How about co-creating polarity with our outfits with our dates to create attraction? If the girl wears a traditionally feminine outfit, then agree to wear a traditionally masculine outfit with heels. If she wears lace and chiffon, then wear a studded leather jacket, tight jeans, motorcycle accessories, studded belt, and strapped/buckled heels. Co-coordinate outfits with polarity. Definitely, something to try in the New Year if the occassion arises. 2 Feminine Style . Masculine Soul. Skin In The Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Histiletto Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's ironic that women can dress in men's wear with heels fashionably, but when men wear heels with men's wear then they are considered cross dressers. To change public opinion or attitudes so that men will be fashionably correct is for more men to openly wear their choice of heels and the attire that fits their tastes. If that delves into a socially regarded feminine look, then remind them that women aren't changing into men from what they wear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneehighs Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) For entertainment sake. A screenshot of a recent instagram private message with a beautiful Northern European. We were talking about Gucci heels. Edited August 15, 2016 by kneehighs Feminine Style . Masculine Soul. Skin In The Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thighbootguy Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 And it's off to the races. You have to let us know who wins. 1 I dream of a world where chickens can cross roads without having their motives questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick24 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 most women and girls for some strange reason, prefer to be in the company of guys who wear what they wear, too them we are there fashion item, and they seem too act more comfortable around us heel wearing guys, they never seem comfortable with guys who are very manly, they never approach them, but if you are a guy who wears what they wear on there feet, there all over you like bees on honey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thighbootguy Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 16 hours ago, Rick24 said: but if you are a guy who wears what they wear on there feet, there all over you like bees on honey Ah the things you learn at hhplace... A safe way to get a buzz on without drugs or alcohol. 1 I dream of a world where chickens can cross roads without having their motives questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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