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Born "Covet" clogs. I got them on Ebay last year (got several pair at the time). Don't see many at the moment and I can't find them in the general google search, so I am assuming they are probably last years model.

Here is someone selling a size 10 pair (although a bit pricey).

http://cgi.ebay.com/BORN-WOMENS-SHOES-CLOGS-COVET-SIZE-10-NEW-L-K_W0QQitemZ7757270764QQcategoryZ63889QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yesterday and today I wore my clogs. While nothing special, they definitely have a slight heel and don't look too much like a man's shoe if you see the whole shoe (which you can alot of times when I sit at my desk).

Today as I was packed up and leaving, I saw my co-worker who sits across from me (I've seen him at times look over at my shoes, but he has never said anything or acted in any negative way) and he was wearing these:

Again, nothing too drastic, but definitely sold as women's clogs (I actually bought a pair like them last year on ebay). Normally he wears typical man shoes. Today he was wearing these. I was wondering if maybe I am slowly starting to rub off on others.

Scotty

As you all know, I mentioned a little while ago how things went too far with the wife and I had to back things up a little bit. Pretty much, I have gone strictly wedge heel all the time now with no separate heel (thick or thin) because my wife was uncomfortable with seeing me in a heel, but was ok with the descrete wedge heel.

Anyway, recently I asked if we could get matching heels for when we are alone. Well, at first I got the "what color" (with a hint of a "here we go again" in her voice). I thought things over a bit and came up with this.

I got them from Beverly Heels (sorry, since they use brackets in their link, I can't hide the URL.

http://www.beverlyheels.com/incEngine/?content=store&mode=display&SRCH_start[custom1]=5&SRCH_end[custom1]=5.9&SRCH_start[custom1]=5&SRCH_end[custom1]=5.9&content=store&product=1030186202

I like them because they are the right height, shape and sexiness. I showed her and told her that since being "clear" they should be alot less "visable" than black/white/red pumps. She said "sure, that is fine" (with no negative feelings in her voice). Anyway, I think she appreciates the fact that I am trying to compromise and take in to account her feelings, etc.

Hopefully they should be in soon (and sorry, I won't be taking/posting any pics;).

Scotty

I am still working on my wife and trying to get her into wearing heels. The ones I got her before she first complained the bottom was too slippery so she was worried about sliding and falling. So I got her pads for the bottom of the shoe. Next she says either a) she doesn't have the right jeans for them or too hard to walk around with the baby in them.

Oh well. I just got her these off Steve Madden

She said she loves them and will definintely wear them. We are planning on going to various amusement parks this summer and I asked if she would wear them there. She said not there with all the walking.......

Anyway, here is what she pretty much wears in the summer on a daily basis right now

They are basically flip-flops on a platform. Not that sexy if you catch my drift. She has them in white, black, and blue jean and wears them EVERYWHERE.

In attempt to get her into something (anything) nicer, I came up with these and just bought them on ebay yesterday (PS, can you see the difference in her white one and the one I got her? Apparently to her they look the same).

What do you all think? I will let you know what happens when they get here, but she PROMISE these she could wear on a daily basis with no problems. She loves the silver and bronze ones.

Scotty

A word of warning here. Some people did this on another forum I belong to and after a while they claimed to get spam from frappr. I didn't sign up though, so I can only pass on what I heard.

Anyone else see these? Do they work? I am curious since my attempts failed at making inserts. Anyone know anything about these?

This link is for 9-10, but if you go to his store and search for wedge heel, he has them in various other sizes too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEEL-WEDGES-Rigid-Shells-Pair-Mens-9-10_W0QQitemZ5619827692QQcategoryZ19264QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Rigid Shells Rigid Shells, Size E Fits Men's Sizes 9-10, pair

A polypropylene co-polymer makes these Rigid Shells lightweight, flexible, and moldable for custom changes. The unique "grid" base design provides stability and comfort. Can be heat molded to adjust arch and posting. Sold in pairs.

MajestY

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Hi Azbus, First of all, I am not sure if your asking for help to come to grips with him wearing heels or if your asking for help in how to get him to stop wearing them. If you have already set your mind to the fact that he is in the wrong for having the desire to wear them and you need to rid of him of that desire, I am not sure we can help you out too much on this board, since most of us already wear heels somehow in our daily life. However, if you can take a more open minded approach and talk openly with your husband about his desires, you might be able to come up with a mutual compromise that allows him to satisfy his desires but isn't as offensive for you. I would recommend that you at least try to stop seeing it as just a sin and more of something that is apart of him. If you are unable to do that, it sounds like your mind is pretty much made up. I will give you an example of my wife and I. We are both Christian, I am more non-denominational and my wife is strict Catholic (I was born and raised Catholic but changed to non-denominational as I got older). Anyway, like your husband, I went through many cycles of buying heels, wearing them around the house, having guilt periods, throwing them away vowing to never wear them again, only to feel the desire come back. At first thought it was a sin and made myself feel horrible about it. But after a while I found this website and found it wasn't an uncommon thing but very common. I also saw I could incorporate wearing heels as a fashion statement vs. a fetish thing and over the past few years, have felt happier and more comfortable with my heel wearing. Of course I had to sit down and talk a lot of things out with my wife. Like you, she isn't thrilled to have me wearing heels. I also have 3 girls (ages 7, 4, and 8 months) so she was concerned about me wearing heels around them as well. What has evolved is I wear less obvious heels like you see in my avatar. Once I sat down and came to grips as to why I like heels, I found it is more just how they feel and less about being a fetish thing, kind of like someone who likes wearing silk shirts because they like how they feel. Well for me, wearing a shoe with the heel higher and your foot at an arch just feels better and more comfortable than a flat shoe. I also like the feeling of a tighter shoe vs. the boxy feeling of a bland men's shoe (if you want to see what I mean, go try on a pair of men's dress shoes sometime). Sure I like to see women wearing nice pumps, but I can definitely live without being in stiletto heels. Sure I would love to wear them too, but as my wife can't accept that, I live within her limitations. However instead of her just saying no and making me feel like a bad person, she was willing to understand my desires and help me work out a way I can wear what I like but still be discrete. Marriage is about give and take and not dictating to the other. Anyway, all this is more about open communication while working out a compromise with your husband. It is no different than anything else in your marriage. When you want to get a car you might have different wants. When you want to get a house you might have different wants. In all decisions, it is very unlikely you will always agree 100% on something but learn to work TOGETHER to come to something mutually acceptable. Like others here, I would highly recommend you stop trying to send HIM to a Christian counselor as if HE is a bad person. Instead, I would just recommend the TWO of you sit down, OPENLY discuss all this and let him tell you why he wants to wear heels, and then you can tell him all your feelings about why it bothers you. I think once you do that, you will be surprised how clearing the air can help you both work things out together. Try to see things from each other’s perspective. Imagine if he demanded you couldn’t wear jeans because women only should wear skirts? And if you insisted on being able to wear them, but he made you feel like a bad evil woman that needed to go see the priest? Sure, farfetched now, but not so farfetched 50 years ago. As Dr Shoe pointed out, God didn't change, fashion did. Fashion isn't dictated by God. What is in your heart and your motives are judged by God. Anyway, just my thoughts on the subject. I wish you all the best in your journey. Scotty

Ok, based on how well received the Linked Word Association game was, I thought I would try another type of game. Each word has to be part of a story. Words CAN be used over, but the next word must begin with the next letter in the alphabet (of course once Z is used, it would start over with A and so on) and make sense in the story. The sentences can be of any length. How about we make a rule that you can only post one word per day (gives others a change to chime in). Let's see how long we can keep this going. I will start if off with.... A

AnaloG (and thanks jmc)

A few more non-pushing ideas could be to either 1) Devise a Halloween costume where you dress like a guy and he dresses like a girl. Complete his outfit with heels. I am sure you could convince him for 1 night (it's just in fun for Halloween) but don't force him out of the heels after. Let him decide when to take them off. or if you don't want to wait that long 2) Do like a few others said happened to them on here. Go out somewhere in high heeled shoes (perhaps descrete mule/wedges, or if you get boots your going to have to get yourself a bigger size so they would fit him as well). After a while you can "complain" that your feet hurt and just jokingly say "too bad we can't switch shoes for a while so I can rest my feet". If he goes for it, then again, let him then decide when to switch back. Neither of these ideas are telling him you want him to wear heels all the time nor are they suggesting your turned on by him wearing heels. Both give him a situation to wear them and also the opportunity to wear them for as long as he wishes. Based on how he reacts, you should be able to better gage if he is into wearing the heels or if he bought them for some other reason.

First of all, who said oriential women are ugly??? My wife is filipino and I think she is gorgeous! Her hair style/color, the way she sits, etc everything looks identical to how she looks so I only said I could see where people could mistake her for oriential as well. No one here ever said your GF was ugly. Second, she does look very amazing and even better, those are very stunning heels and she wears them well. She has great legs and that is great that she will pose for you like that and then allow you to share them. As RP said, I wouldn't be worried about her walking in them, that will come over time as she gets use to wearing them. I also wouldn't be worried about her being shy. My wife did pics in heels a few years ago for a yahoo group and she only let me post from the leg down so your GF is far more revealing than what my wife did. Lastly, cudos to your GF for wearing them and sharing with us. You are one VERY lucky guy to have such a beautifil GF who not only enjoys wearing sexy heels for you, but also poses for you and allows you to share them with others. Scotty

LE, I think you have the right approach! Just keep leaving subtile hints (unless you somehow work up the courage to just straight out ask him). In time he should hopefully become more comfortable, and if he does wear them as you suspect and tells you about it, then I think it will work out fine. If as everyone says here, he is into heels, well, working up the courage to tell you is just as hard on him as you (consider he might think you would reject him and leave him over that!). When I told my wife-to-be, she didn't initially think she could handle it and broke off with me too.....but that only lasted over night. The next morning she called me and got back with me:) Been together for almost 20 years now. Good luck! Scotty

Hi!

I guess I need to spend my two cents here...

In my case I wouldn't say it's an excuse - it's really so - it eases back pain a lot!!! Although not prescribed I found that it felt a lot better when walking long distances and standing in line or so for some time wearing higher heels than doing this in flat shoes.

CU!

-Mike

Mike,

Same as you, it also helps my back (I actually DO have a very bad back as well). That isn't the primary reason for wearing heels, it's more like a positive side effect, BUT for situations like work and family who might ever question as to why I am wearing heels, my back issues will be the primary reason

Very nice. They remind me of the ones the Beatles used to wear.

LacE

Well, not exactly pumps, but I wore my wedge heels like I do everyday to work. My tire was a little underinflated before I went to work yesterday so I just filled it with air and drove it in (I know, not a great idea, but I was running late). Anyway, when I got to work I saw it was losing air again so I figured it would be flat by the time I got off work. Sure enough, when I got out lastnight it was completely flat. SO, being a resourceful type person, I pulled my full-size spare (thank God I don't have one of those donuts) and changed it. Fortunately, it was in the company garage and most everyone was gone. A co-worker came out to see if I needed any help just as I was finishing, however, since I was kneeling down, etc, I know my shoe was even more exposed than during the work day. If he never saw them before, I know he did then. He didn't say anything though and hasn't treated me any different today either. Matter of fact, he hasn't even asked me about them, etc. Has anyone else ever had similiar experiences?

My wife was less for the idea of me wearing heels before, but then she confessed a while ago it was because she was worried for me on how others would view me. I told her I didn't care what others thought of me and she said fine then (of course certain types of heels would be unacceptable to her like thin heels). Anway, so far no one has treated me different at all. And even if they do, I am prepared with the "it's for medical reason, I have a bad back and wearing the heels alleviates the pain". Maybe you could use that excuse and wear less feminine heels in your home area and save the others for when your away? You can offer her that suggestion and see how she feels about it.

I was thinking about this more and would like to go over another point on this. Let me illustrate how dangerous jumping to a conclusion can be.

Let's take my buying Playgirl magazine example. Let's say I am buying them for a shy friend and not my GF. Someone that knows us sees me buying them and she tells my GF. My GF makes the assumption I am curious about being with another man. She is openminded (like LE with the heels) so she decides she is going to support me in this and sets up a 3some to surprise me. I come home to find her and another guy waiting for me to have "fun". Of course me not being gay or bi am very turned off by this and it ends the relationship.

Do you see where taking action on an assumption where you don't have all the facts can lead to disasterous results?

Now if she would have just confronted me with "Hey, a friend of mine saw you buying Playgirl magazines the other day, what is up with that?" would circumvented the entire thing? I would have explained the buying them for a shy friend, and a VERY bad situation would have been avoided.

Again, we need to be VERY careful of advising someone when you don't have all the information and making leaps in assumptions can lead to very bad results.

Being a programmer, when something goes wrong in a program I write, I might have a gut feeling of what went wrong, BUT I have to consider ALL senarios that could also cause the same result and then proceed on testing them out. As I test I can elimiate some and then finally confirm which senaro is the one that did it. But until then, I can't start changing code based on what I think the evidence points to without confirming it. I think that is why I take a "get all the facts before taking action" approach.

Going back to LE and her BF's situation, even if he is buying the heels for himself doesn't mean he wants to street heel in them. He could be just curious how they feel. He could be buying them for some prank he and some friends are going to do (is he in college or a fraternity, maybe for a sporting event like the hoggettes in Washington who cross dress for the game only?). It could be for a 1 time event. It could be he wants to wear them to bed and nothing else. The list is endless. THAT is why I think she needs to 1st confirm if they are for him and his level of interest BEFORE she starts just going out and pushing him into wearing heels in public. The end result could be a quick end to the relationship.

Scotty

Le then wrote....

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys, yes I've been quiet lately. Just soaking this all in. Scotty, I think you are right about not pushing any more. I still believe he enjoys wearing high heels in the privacy of his own home, but he has not taken any opportunity to tell me that on his own.

I am very concerned about doing something to screw up this relationship. We have been together almost 8 months and I think we're both happier than we've been in any other recent relationships. (I can say happier than any other relationships) I'd marry him today if he asked me--did I just say that?-- (or if I wer one that could do the asking), and part of me wonders if he thinks along the lines of "how will I hide my shoes if we're living together?" "what if we got married and she finds out about the shoes," or "I wonder if she'd still want to be with me if she found out about the shoes."

By bringing it up in passing I'm trying to let him know that it's not a deal breaker. But as you say, I don't want to act on an assumption that might screw things up.

As for the frat thing...he was (I guess technically he still is) but that was over 10 years ago.

I don't want to imply that I am turned on by him in heels (I think if I actually ever see him in them it will take a bit of getting used to).

I will tell him about the freestyler I ran into today and see what he says. (No heels, just flipflops with silver-painted toenails and a jean skirt). I have seen many of your fashion photos, and I must say this guy needs a lesson! Ripped denim skirt with a tshirt with arms cut out muscle-shirt style, and a bandanna on his head. We were in Tuesday Morning (a discount housewares store for those of you outside of the U.S.). All of the employees are little old(er) women. It's also not in an area of town where this thing is the norm. They were taken aback by this guy, and I could tell they were trying to get a reaction out of me as I was talking to him in line, but I didn't acknowledge it. The only thing about this guy that annoyed me was the stuff he was talking about...going on and on about how God is omnipresent and we shouldn't need money, and rattling off several word-based acronyms, half of which I couldn't understand.

Ok, so that's off topic, but that's basically what I'm going to describe to my bf.

As for those shoes I ordered, I didn't get the opportunity to dare him to wear them. I've been leaving them at his place (so he can try them on if he wants, and because I don't have anywhere to wear them right now) but basically I've just been walking around in them (getting better too!) and letting him admire them.

WD, My point is circumstantial evidence and assumptions don't always equal facts. Your illustration of an unauthorized person entering your house is different in that it involves a life and death senaro. LE's situation reflects a potential long term relationship. Making assumptions in that regard can lead to not good results if not handled properly. I will give you another illustration. Several years ago when my wife and I were dating and not married, I did read "men's" magazines. My wife (GF at the time) didn't have a problem with that, BUT felt if I was able to read them she should be able to read women's versions. I agreed. The problem is she was very shy and having them mailed to her house (she still lived at home) was not an option. SO, I went into the store and bought her Playgirl. Now, someone standing behind me could see that and make an ASSUMPTION that I was gay (or atleast bi) if I am buying Playgirl. I had no wedding ring on at the time so all the "evidence" would point to I am buying the magazine for myself BECAUSE I am gay. Of course this is a good assumption but very wrong factually. Since anyone seeing me buy the magazine did not have ALL the facts, the ASSUMPTION was wrong. Until LE knows her BF is infact into wearing heels (and I agree the evidences points very strongly to that), she should not proceed the way she would if she knew for a fact that he does. In other words, asking him to wear heels, telling him she is turned on by guys wearing heels, buying him heels, etc is not a good idea UNTIL she knows for a fact that he does wear them. Now once she confirms the assumption, sure. Buying him heels, going shopping together for them, suggesting they go out together in them (if she is even ok with being in public with him wearing heels, that is her comfort level), all that is 100% fine and correct. My point is, at the time she only has circumstantial evidence and not facts that he infact wears heels or desires to wear heels. Just because we all wear and enjoy wearing heels, don't assume ALL guys that like seeing heels want to wear them. Scotty

Try searching http://www.youtube.com. I've didn't look for this one but found other music videos posted there.

Update:

Here is the link

http://www.youtube.com./watch?v=42zo8hbxR1g&search=Morrissey%20interesting%20drug

I was commenting about the world at large.

I know, was just being sarcastic!

The problems come about when people read what they want to see and not what is actually asked and then respond in kind. First of all, LE never said she knew 100% if her BF wore heels. Only that he bought a pair in his size. Granted, this is strong circumstantial evidence that he is buying them for himself, but it is also possible he is buying them for a friend, co-worker, or even a gift for someone else. Until he fesses up or she catches him wearing them, it is only circumstantial. Also, she never said she was into him wearing heels or wanted him to wear heels. In fact, she said while she is "ok" with it, it isn't really a big turn on. So before we all go nuts and give her suggestions on ways to get him into heels or have her suggest him to wear heels, let's respond to the actual questions. #1, Does he actually wear heels #2, How does she get him to let her know one way or the other #3, How she can let him know she accepts him IF he infact wears heels, NOT how she can get him to wear heels. Another thing, she said while she does wear heels, she normally doesn't wear thin heels or very high heels. This was done as an excuse to made a wager with him to wear the heels. Again, she didn't say it was a ruse to get him to wear them, but a way to give him an opening to see if infact he does want to wear them and to open up to her to that fact. Please take the time to actually read the questions/issues posed here and answer them, not assume things or interject your hopes/wishes onto the person.