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I wouldn't mind wearing a 3 piece suit every day. I even have quite a few, but sadly the beer bug has caused me to no longer fit into most of them. I saw a video recently of Podcast of the Lotus Eaters where Carl was talking to a guest dressed in a 3 piece suit and he said why not dress your best whenever you can? Why look like a slob when you can look like a gentleman? It used to not just be normal, it was almost mandatory and even factory workers owned at least 1 suit. Will it make you look old fashioned? Probably. But it will also give you a leg up over all the casual dressed dudes in jeans and t-shirts. It might do wonders to your career. And maybe, just maybe it would motivate women to look more feminine again too?

5 hours ago, Shyheels said:

Nobody walked in stilettos until the 1950s when they suddenly became the fashion, and women very swiftly learned how to do it. The same will happened again - all it would take is some K-Pop band on Tik-Tok to make heels their thing and it would be a craze. 

As part of my job I must scan a lot of old photos. There is a crucial difference to back then and today. Femininity is under attack and the ruling feminist establishment HATES all things feminine. So women are pushed to adopt male garb instead. Stilettos were seen and still are as the height of femininity. As such it is frowned upon. When stilettos emerged you would not see a woman in baggy jeans and flats. Feminine garb was the norm since like forever even before the stiletto. That norm is gone. Also, I recently saw an episode of podcast of the Lotus Eaters, and Carl was interviewing Calvin Robinson. Calvin was dressed in suit and tie, Carl in comfy loungewear. People have stopped presenting themselves at their best in favor of comfort. To some people presenting themselves at their best means wearing an expensive track suit and designer sneakers. Women are giving up femininity and adopting genderconfusion and comfort is the way of the land.

Might things change if some K-pop band were to wear heels? Well, maybe temporary. Just like the odd Western hit in cinema was prophecized as a return of the Western. It did not. A brief fad does not equal a trend. Nor can it undo generations of women accustomed to wearing sneakers and those accursed army boots. They might wear them for the odd occasion, or because of some fad, but because they are not used to them, and the absence of a culture imperative to present themselves as feminine it will be young women tottering around uncomfortably. And it will be the equivalent of going to the restaurant and only putting the heels on to get from the car to the dinner table. Fads do not equal trends, and the trend has been against heels for a long time, even during the designer heel craze.

On 10/8/2023 at 8:24 PM, Cali said:

I saw many under 40 women in 3+ inch heels, one in at least 5 inches in the last 10 days.

I don't know where you live, in my neck of the woods, a Dutch university city so TONS of young women, NOTHING! 2" chunky at the most. These are the women who will never pick up heels as they never learned to walk in them. And when I do see a woman in heels she is almost always way over 40.

19 hours ago, Shyheels said:

I don’t agree. Heels are certainly in a cyclical low and I don’t thing they will rebound in the way typical fashion cycles have worked in the past. Social media and enforced herd-think has changed that forever. But I do not think that heels will fade out completely or that heel wearers will be relegated to a niche fetish community. Nor are heels analogous to corsets.

Corsets, ruffed collars, powdered wigs etc have all had their day and are pretty well extinct. The heel is a staple design feature on nearly all forms of dress footwear - men’s or women’s. At issue is the height of the heel. As long as this design feature persists, designers will tinker with it. And there is no sign of this design feature disappearing - only that it is less exaggerated.

While stilettos may be scarce these days boots with two to three inch chunky heels are common. And I dare say will remain so. And I doubt even the stiletto will disappear.

High heels have been around for well over a century, although the stiletto for only the past 70 years or so. They are well established in the zeitgeist and while I think it will take more that the typical fashion cycle to bring back the kind of stiletto wearing common in the 1980s and early 2000s, high heels are not going to disappear 

Corsets were around as a staple of women's clothing for centuries. They even outlasted powdered wigs by centuries. Completely gone now. What makes you think that heels will fare any better? They're going the way of the dodo because something else has cropped up which completely upended the cycles of fashion. Modern day feminism. It HATES ANYTHING feminine. We have reached the weird zeitgeist where women don't want to wear heels because they are feminine, and feminism teaches them that anything feminine is bad. But guys wearing heels, as in the gender destruction ideology, that fits right in there. And again, all those women who never learned to walk in heels in their formative years aren't going to magically pick up that skill. Even the whole designer heel craze of the last years was just a craze of the upper and upper middle class women, not of women in general. In general it has been sneakers and those accursed army boots. Hell, even in p0rn I see more and more women wearing sneakers.

Heels are going the way of the Western. That genre which once dominated Hollywood movies for decades since its beginning. And then one day it was over. And occasionally we still get a western, maybe two, and the trades call it return to the genre. And then it dies out again. So it will be with heels. The vast majority of women will stop wearing them or think themselves adventurous wearing 2" chunky heels. Some will still wear 4" or higher, but they will be mostly in certain professional spheres, like entertainment or law. Without young people taking up heel wearing there is no cyclical return. And I don't count 2" chunky heels or flatforms as heels.

On 9/20/2023 at 6:17 PM, alphax said:

It's another prescient vision of the future by Musk, because Twitter might very well indeed be everyone's (e)x-platform in the future...

Heel heights are definitely cyclical.

What do they say?  Stocks, hemlines and heels go up together?

In the 70s the pundits thought all women would be wearing baggy t-shirts and Birkenstocks from then on but that didn't happen.

Even in the 70's women still wore heels. Just chunky platform ones. Now they have all but disappeared. I don't buy into the cyclical thing. We have generations of women now who never wore heels and they are NEVER going to wear heels. If you are not used to wearing them they will hurt you every time you them and as a result you will want to wear them even less. It is over. On the rare occasion I see a woman in heels it's almost 99% of the time a woman in her 40's or older. And lets be realistic about it, women wearing heels is a fairly recent thing. Before WW2 it was rare to see a woman in heels, it only gained mass support in the 50's and 60's, with increased wealth and prosperity for the lower and middle classes on the one hand, and the advent of the stiletto heel on the other. Overall, it was only a few generations of women that wore heels and I reckon they will be relegated to the same niche fetish community as was the corset. And the corset was around for a much longer time. I hear no one speaking of some cycle whereby corsets will make a comeback. High heels everywhere was a phase, it happened, and now we are in the dying days of that phase.

On 9/14/2023 at 11:54 PM, Cali said:

My son sell many things on the net. I asked him about selling some of my CFM heels. They are in very good condition, but they are not very comfortable to wear long time.  So they have sat on the shelf for YEARS.

To him it was just not worth it.  Yes, he might be able to get as much as $30 each, but the work to showcase them was not worth his time.  I plan to try some consignment stores or donate to a LGB... support group or a ...

Then I have several Charles by Charles David gladiator wedges where the glue has failed. I have gotten my use out of them  However. I have not found decent replacements. And I looked! And looked1 Those heels go into my shop and hopefully I can get them back in my closet before fall rain.

I agree. For the amount of work that you have to put into selling them and for the money you're most likely to get it's just not worth the time.

Call it whatever you will. And yes, occasionally you have to trim the collection down. Ideally you'd sell them off, but I find it mentally tiring to do so, dealing with the lowballers and weirdos. Not the fine folk here, who are all well rounded individuals. But when you've tried to sell some shoes a couple of times and you get people who say they get turned on by them and that they like to suck dick, that kinda makes you want to stop selling them and instead just dump them in a used clothing collection point.

On 8/12/2023 at 1:04 PM, Jkrenzer said:

The former, right at the entrance 

The grate culprit. I didn't actually step into it directly but as I was walking my heel tip just caught an inside edge of one if the openings. The sudden stop combined with the natural movement as my body mass didn't immediately stop caused my other foot to swing forward and it connected with my stuck foot already out of position. Suddenly my entire body mass is forward of both feet and down I went. All this in a split second.

1 hour ago, mlroseplant said:

It seems like an exceptionally bad place to put that, heels or no heels. I shall have to check and see where they have placed the drain in my local favored beer cooler and take careful note of it.

They probably don't expect people in heels to come walking in into a place called 'The Beer Den'.

On 6/24/2023 at 12:15 PM, mlroseplant said:

In a more casual setting, it is my observation that the platform trend has settled largely on combat type boots with a thick sole, and a low to mid-rise clunky heel. This can range from kinda cool to absolutely hideous, depending upon the extremism of the sole. I even saw like an 8 or 10 year old girl wearing combat boots with a dress the other day. They had 4 inch heels and 1 inch platform. On the other hand, on the same night, I saw another girl of similar age wearing a dress and cute little gold wedge sandals, so there is hope for the future.

One demographic that does not seem to have embraced the huge platform is Asian women my age. They either wear flat sandals or mid-heeled sandals at this time of year, same as they always have. Latinas wear heels sometimes. White women do not wear heels. Trainers are everywhere for all demographics. I am speaking of casual out and about situations, not weddings or church.

Spot on! It's an epidemic of trainers and combat boots out there. I think in the past three months I saw 1 young woman in heels. And I live in a university city with an above average young female population.

I order a LOT from them. Including heels. I have better experience and success rates with them then with Ali or even Asos.

I rather have frivolous negative reviews, I can at least recognize those, then fake positive ones or knowing that companies openly screen and adjust their reviews. Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB have become notorious for filtering out shitloads of negative movie reviews for certain movies that fit the 'right narrative'. Like the current Little Mermaid rehash. Amazon has done the same for their Rings of Power abortion. If they have the ability to 'filter' their reviews, how can I trust any of their reviews if I want to buy a product or see something?

These days I enjoy wearing leggings even more then heels. It's a great combo.

4 hours ago, mickeyunc said:

you have a style name or number?

 

i searched pleaser website and sent then a picture. and they said they dont carry that style

The Sexy 20 range I'd guess. But they have been scrapping a lot of shoes of that range.

Haven't seen or worn anything like that since I was a kid in the 70's on holidays. Which is to me what it represents. It's interesting to see that everybody can and does find their own niche in this thing.

I see more flatforms then platforms here. I would appear even the modest heel height of a platform is too much for most women.

If we don't want to become serfs to a government that gives us just enough to live off then we must do something about it. Butlerian Jihad for the win! You shall not make a machine in the likeness of the human mind. Although I reckon it will be hard to play Fortnight on a human mentat.

On 3/8/2023 at 11:23 AM, Puffer said:

These have just appeared on the ASOS website.   Sizes up to UK13.   No heel height indicated but appears to be about 4".   Not something I would wear but I can see the appeal.

Not in a million years, but one man's garbage is another man's treasure, so I welcome their good fortune.

On 2/2/2023 at 12:37 PM, Jkrenzer said:

I think these are over 10 yrs old. They are butter soft and conformed to my feet quickly. The soles are pure leather. It took very little time to break these. I bought 42's. My true size seems to be 10.5 US You have a lot of Nine West, these size accordingly. These and a light grey pair are the only two I bought. Price with shipping was over $100 back then. A bit pricey.

$100 including shipping seems like a bargain now.

20 hours ago, Shyheels said:

I think most people put in more hours at home. They start earlier (no commute) and tend not to switch off. The temptation to just finish something after dinner is always there and often acted upon. That has been the experience of all the people I know.

Not this guy, I put in less hours. But when I did get started I was way more productive as no one else was distracting me. So that made up for it.

The problem with downsizing is that it takes a lot of work and above all energy to downsize. Offering shoes for sale, both here and on the local auction sites can sometimes take forever. And when you try to sell elsewhere it draws in a lot of crazies and low ballers. Sometimes it's just easier to throw your unwanted pairs into a local 2nd hand clothes collection bins. Easy to do with cheap shoes, but what about the really expensive ones? No wonder we get out of control collections. I finally understand women in that regard. It takes zero effort to buy new shoes, it takes quite some effort to sell old shoes.

I think you might put in less hours working from home. So if that's the metric to go by, which is usually the only one that Pointy Haired Bosses know, then yeah, working from home is less productive. But working in an office does not make you more productive. There is coming in, getting the coffee, talking with your colleagues, checking email, lunch, after lunch dip, constantly getting distracted by office talk, Pointy Haired Bosses. And if I don't feel like it, there's always the internet to browse. So yeah, i put in more hours at the office probably, there's no guarantee I will be more productive. Coffee, email, lunch, lunch dip, they're at home too. But when I am going fully at it there's no colleagues and Pointy Haired Bosses to distract me. We should move away from having to work X amount of hours and instead move to productivity. That you are supposed to do X amounts of work per week. And how you do it, and where you want to do it, should be up to you. If you want to work really hard for like a day or two so you have more free time the rest of the week. And not get assigned more by a Pointy Haired Boss. Because then I ain't gonna work so hard and watch more cat videos behind his back, because then there is no incentive for me to work hard.

Our future ruler of Earth, Overlord DVD found a report on how the US government is funding research of the University of Washington to create an AI to monitor and censor harmful discriminating language. A woke Big Brother AI.

AI is evil and must be destroyed. Bad enough that humans spy on us, but to have AI do it?

23 hours ago, Jkrenzer said:

OK, the geek is on.

For all its imagery, Star Wars was a joke. Every weapon is manually aimed like a world War 2 anti aircraft gun. Oh, don't get me started on laser guns that recoil or putting all your ships in a line and using broadside cannons. Or how about dropping racks bombs over a target in a gravity free environment. 

Well, Star Wars was after all WW2 in space. Star Trek on the other hand was Horatio Hornblower in space, with lone Starships duking it out at close range like 18th century sailing ships. And the great Star Wars vs. Star Trek debate was settled decades ago. When Episode 2 got released and with it came a little book called Incredible Cross Sections. Before geeks spent endless ages debating the range and power of weapons in both settings. ICS settled that debate once and for all when it stated that the output of a turbo laser gun was 200 gigaton. Game over for Star Trek. I was on the Spacebattles forum at that time. Before we used have endless debates about the subject, after ICS came out it trickled to almost nothing.

Ironically, since Disney discarded the book EU after the great Catastrophy, it buying Star Wars, I wonder if that means that ICS is now also out of the door. Not that it matters much, both fandoms have seriously declined due to shitty new content.

22 hours ago, Shyheels said:

I would not say that style preferences - platforms vs single soles - is geeky at all, but a fairly broad style debate. This is after all a fashion website, and matters of style, colour, ornamentation are part of the discussion. 

Geeky, to my mind, is when you start doing things such as measuring the width of your heel to debate how many millimetres wide is a “true stiletto” instead of merely a high heel, and start splitting hairs and getting into verbal semantics. 

Geekiness expesses itself in many ways. And in our particular geekdom single sole vs. platforms is the Great Debate. Great debates are rarely about splitting hairs like range of transporters or the Jefferies tube system of the Enterprise, they are Star Trek vs Star Wars.

Embrace your inner geek! I dare say high heel geek fits you better then some of the epitaphs people will give you.

On 12/27/2022 at 12:23 PM, mlroseplant said:

Oh, good grief! This discussion has been going on since the Jenny days. And I'm sure well before the internet was a thing. We evidently are all true brothers here, because we seem to enjoy arguing a lot.

This is what geeks do, and I consider us high heel geeks in this regard. Who was the better captain, Kirk vs Picard (Kirk has won that handsomely now), who would win in a fight, the USS Enterprise vs. an Imperial Star Destroyer, the debates were endless. Geeks will endlessly split hair. Because we care and because we live to split hair on our favorite subjects. If we didn't then it would be a sign of us no longer giving a damn. So long may the endless single sole vs. platform debate continue! And yes, platforms look clunky and fugly.

On 1/2/2023 at 2:22 AM, Heelster said:

It's not completely voluntary - - to function and work in society, we are left with little choice.

 

You basically need a smartphone and online accounts to function in today's society. My late grandmother had neither, and she was severely handicapped in what she could do. Of course she already was by her old age, so it was kinda moot. And I find it highly worrisome that we can get increasingly deplatformed even from essential services, like your bank, for things that a dictator elsewhere in the world wouldn't give two shits about. Another reason why I find AI increasingly worrisome.

Speaking of AI, I recently watched Colossus: The Forbin Project. A 1970 film about a military AI controlling all the world's nukes taking over the world.

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Humankind is presented with the choice between "the peace of plenty and content, or the peace of unburied death". Colossus tells its creator Forbin that the world, now freed from war, will create a new human millennium that will raise humankind to new heights, but only under its absolute rule. Colossus informs Forbin that "freedom is an illusion" and that "in time you will come to regard me not only with respect and awe, but with love".

A great movie. Ironically, that is what the moral busy bodies who want to control us always dream of. That we will not only accept their Brave New World but come to love it. And them too of course.