Histiletto

I have recently discovered that my step daughter, who is a boy scout troop leader btw, and her 2 boys, 8 and 13 and neanderthal husband, caught us out in heels last weekend.

She too has not done her home work. She called me to ask about a supplement for her son's joints and left a voice mail.

I called back and the 8yr old answered and started yelling at me asking why was I wearing those fagot high heel shoes. This in turn has started a very uncomfortable conflict between us. As this little boy was going off on me, I heard his dad in the back ground supporting him.

I told him to let me talk to his mother and by my surprise, she agreed with them both and said men do not wear high heels in public, ONLY GAYS DO THAT. I told her I will not tolerate being called a fagot and asked why she is a "boy scout troop leader" Only men do that.

Now I wander what would happen if the boy scouts of America new she was teaching her children words like fagot etc.?

She told me I should stay in the closet and only wear high heels in private.

I did not raise my children like this and she needs to take a course in people skills. I'm sure it has a lot to do with the father. They are being raised to know that real men drink, smoke, curse, run over little animals in the road and laugh and the macho list goes on.

I suppose time will take care of this one also.

Moral of this venting is that I'm still me and if you don't like me as I am and I have to dress the way YOU want me to, OH WELL, your loss.

Hey johnieheel,

The Boy Scout organization has been a good thing for young boys to learn about things they normally wouldn't consider on their own. Maybe someday they could have a merit badge for fashion coordination, which includes which heels to wear with their uniform.

However, with all jesting aside, I have also found many of their members, adults and children, are so close-minded in even tolerating anything that they figure doesn't fit the stereotypical norm. What really hurts is the fact that they are teaching hatred for anyone that doesn't walk in their foot-steps. We have heard the news stories of a few Moslem fanatics that can't tolerate infidels (the ones who don't follow the teachings of Mohammed). Seems many of the scouting members are teaching the very same kind of prejudicial/hate doctrine. I don't know if the national leaders of scouting condone these activities, but something needs to be presented to focus a corrective action. The young minds like your step-daughter's children deserved a better outlook on life. These brainless teachings have caused many senseless crimes and I personally fear the people who don't love their neighbor for who they are. Embracing truths will forever be a better way to live than spilling the ignorance of lies and hate.

Shopping for heels has to be part of the process to better enjoyment. The anticipation, the research, the discovery, the sampling, the actual choosing, the walking out in them or carrying them in a shopping bag, the reaching home and sharing your purchase with your spouse or girlfriend, the coordinating an outfit to wear with them, the wearing them on the date or an evening together, and etc. There will be more available times for these opportunities. So, put on your heels and strut your stuff in a world of fun.

I would like to join this heeling group and offer my support to you, your family, and friends. There are so many feelings and thoughts that rush through in these periods of loosing those we care about. Be in mind that this separation is only for a short duration in the eternity of being, for this life can't be the totality of our existence. Our forebearers have lived, so that we could be. Let us rejoice in them and continue living to make them proud of whom they have given life.

As a young child, there was a time I literally lived in my Mary Jane patent leather shoes. Since then, my heeling experiences have been done in relative secrecy, because I was denied the choice of having another pair of my own to wear until I could earn enough money to buy them. Even then, the mindset had been deeply engravened, so that I felt alone in my desire. To express such an activity, either vocally or visually, would brand a person as an outsider to be rejected and ridiculed. Not wanting to receive such a social label, I kepted to myself and heeled out of public notice. Breaking these ingrained mental attitudes to publicly wear heels are hard hurdles to go over without any outside encouragements. In my heart I always knew there were men and women, whose desires to wear heels were the same as mine, but without any actual contact the possibilities seemed bleak at best. Then I found this forum of people who were expressing their desires and activities to wear high heels from all over the world. It's still not a unified community for there is even differing opinions about the choice of high heels one should wear, but we all have a focus of wearing the heels of our choosing.

Hey Amanda, Thanks for bringing up this subject and for some of the post in response have given me some pointers. I have had some experiences of asking after just noticing their footwear. I was probably the one who was more scared to approach them and I am sure it put me in their eyes as some kind of a high heel fanatic. There were a couple of occassions when I saw them again in passing later and they seem to make a little extra effort to avoid eye contact or any other acknowledgements. Guess I'd better work on my approach to see the person who just happens to be wearing the gorgeous pair of pumps, instead of fixating on their footwear.

Hey raymond.nl, I too will give my congrats to having such an understanding wife. There are a few of us that have experienced similar happenings. Please enjoy the fantasy all male heelers want in their relationship with the love of their life. Being able to share such happiness has to be the ultimate reward. May we all have and be the cherished and understanding partners.

We think it is right that a male can wear heels.

Would you gift your son a pair of high-heeled shoes, suggestin' him to wear them out?

On the one hand, I must say that this would be a welcomed event, if our son(s) had prepared for this moment. On the other, it could be a ticket to unwarranted prejudices and finding out what kind of metal our son(s) are made of. Especially, when they deal with the present social attitudes toward male heeling among the immature and the narrow minded.

One of the many common themes used by alot of heelers is that they got their first taste for heeling when they were young children with mom's or sis's heels. If they continue to display their desire to wear heels, my wife and I would counsel with them. Then at the proper stages of their development, we would get the appropriate heel height for their age and activities. This exercise would be for our daugthers, as well as our sons, should they be so inclined to wear heels.

Wearing heels is not for everyone. Even some women, who now have the public "okley dokley" to wear heels, do it only once in a while or refuse to wear them at all. So, unless a child has shown the desire to heel, be they girl or boy, the matter should be approached as they seem to have the issue or as a response to their questions about your heeling.

Horrible shoes like these may have a use somewhere. Most obvious is the use for feeding a fire in the fireplace. Of course the melting plastics would probably gag you for a time, so make sure the flue is open. They can also be used for a garbage container weight. That's so the garbage won't rise up and hit some one upon the face. Then again the pets need something to gnaw on, if you think they are safe and won't injure them - O.K., the pets are the ones not to be harmed or injured, of course. They can be dropped from an airplane into an area of aboriginal understanding and be considered something the gods really messed up when creating and gave to them to be buried or used in games like stick ball or kick the can. How about target practice?

Yes, peep toes can catch ones eye, however, because of personal preferences, I will continue wearing closed toe styled court shoes. I'll leave the open look for those who enjoy the sight of feet and toes.

You'll probably give attention to my psychologial profile, now that I have mentioned it. Did Carly Simon really mean me when she sang "You're So Vain"? People have opinions and some don't flatter footwear.

I have read that they are a powerful signal for those that fetishise the vagina and the penis, in one little cutout. All contained within the world's favourite fetish... The high heeled shoe.

One can draw parallels with all most anything, given the motivation and time. I have also read and heard that everything can be related to something sexual. A mind so focused on sex can miss many true values life's experiences have to offer.

Thanks guys! I've yet to even visit San Francisco, out a lone, find a job there. I'm sure their would be something I could find though. I hear that I would fit right in wearing heels right off the plane, or is this just a rumor? The reason I said next winter is that I am on a lease which doesn't end until February and there are some other factors that put any kind of relocating before then a bit awkward. Do you think if I heeled into a women's shoe shop for a job, I would be accepted like many of the fictional and some factual writings concerning heelers from this forum? Wouldn't that be a hoot to get a job be able to share the heeling experiences with the women I would meet!

While being in the public eye delivering products, it would be impractical for me to wear heels of some height. Wearing ballerina flats or Mary Janes with .5" to .75" heels could be possible, if my boss would agree to let me. However, due to public opinion, our customers would probably go elsewhere and then I'd still be forced to look for another job anyway, because of nothing to do. Besides, getting in and out of a box truck and transporting products in heels with the heights greater than 1.5" would require a lot of special attention being careful not to become injured. This would take more time than needed to normally complete the job, which would cause me to be less productive. When I am hired on for any job, I want to do the best I can, so the business can be as profitable as legally and competively possible. Time to find a job that will be more accessible to male heeling. Any suggestions or possibilities known? I'd be willing to relocate after the winter season is over, if the economy is still up enough to afford such a move.

.... you have purchased on-line, a pair of Mary Janes of substantial cost and they look great as you take them out of the box. While putting them on, the strap pulls out of its bindings, which tears the finish and its base securing area. Now you have a hole that needs fixing and the strap is next to useless for its intended purpose. You're afraid to wear them now for fear they might fall apart as you walk. You can't return them for a refund due to being a sales item, and fixing them means the footwear will never be as attractive. What a bummer!

I suppose after I had figured out what shoes were for and that others were wearing shoes also, I must have saw some that caught my eye. Of course, being too young to remember the days of my babyhood, I can only summize this was my original introduction to the style of shoes I desired to wear. As a toddler, I can remember wanting to wear my sister's Mary Janes and was told no, because they were her's, but that didn't stop me from wearing them when she wasn't around to stop me. Later, when she couldn't wear them any more and had to up-grade to a larger size, I took possession of them dispite any of the admonitions voiced to the contrary. It was a bit of a wait, but finally I had the shoes I wanted to wear. They hardly ever left my feet, with the exceptions of having to take my baths or changing clothes. However, as soon as I could they were put back on. I didn't want to take the chance someone would think I had lost my desire or interest. Until the natural course of use made them no longer wearable - where they were, I was wearing them. Disgarding them was a very traumatic and heartbreaking realization. This sorrow was dwarfed when I was told I would not be permitted to get another pair as my sister had done when she grew out of them. Why couldn't they see how much I wanted another pair? Didn't I show them I could wear them? This meant I would have to go back to sneaking my sister's or mom's when ever I saw the opportunity. What was wrong with me in having this desire? I knew how I felt. Their denying my need to have the shoes I wanted, led to only strengthening this desire. I was alone in my thoughts concerning this. The door seem to be closed to any type of discourse and I was too young to know how to deal with this situation. So, I learned to be secretively quiet. I could not explain to them the reasons I took the shoes I desired to wear, when found out. It became a subject to be swept under the rug every time they caught me wearing my desired footwear. They probably expected it was a stage that I would grow out of. Well, here I am! Now this thread is suppose to be about my first awareness of girls and their footwear. Well this experience wasn't the infactuated first impression I believe to be sought, but this is when I learned of the difference that society made the distinction. I guess my first obvious realization of the beauty of girl's legs along with their footwear was when I was around five years of age. I have all ready explained my desire and girls were the models displaying the footwear up to this time. Then came one moment when a lovely girl appeared and somehow she helped me to connect the dots just by seeing her in an outfit that looked devine with her 3.5" stiletto court shoes. From then on, the models became girls with the ability to present a total package of beauty, especially when they wore the footwear that fulfilled every desire I wanted to wear.

I hope this story isn't from your personal experience. Sorry to say that this type of senario happens too many times mostly without the turn-a-bout ending, even if it only happened once. However, logic leaves us to believe it has and will happen a lot. This by no means excuses the perpetrators. They should get severly reprimanded for using their position of authority to enslave their subordinates. Then again, this is how I feel about how society is dealing with male heelers: Forcing us to wear what they want.

I also agree and I would like to think people are smart enough when they hear the truth about most heelers - men and/or women - being straight, they could make that distinction. However, until they are confronted with the option of straight heelers, they have little choice but to assume crossing the social gender lines means you have a shorted, misguided circuit or you have the properties of being gay, especially if you are of the male category. There hasn't been enough education, even in this enlightened technological world of ours, about what really comprises a person. Most people take their perspectives from the traditional thinking of masculine men and feminine women and rarely understand anything that is outside of that box. Thankfully, being a heeler has given me a window to, at least, consider other points of view that may conflict with my sense of truth and there by opening another way to approach the whole picture of life. Now, I don't condone the gay movement as it has transpired, but "Gaydom" has a place in the totality of things. It has been so misunderstood by most every one, the idea continues to be flagrantly abused by its members and by those who oppose it. If there was ever a possibility of rationally combining thoughts in this area, this whole matter could be better dealt with. The only reason this hasn't seen a resolve is because there are too many people who think they know the truth and will thump their one-sided principles no matter what other reasons or truths confront them.

Get the point, Huuummm! "Males".

Now from this male's point of view, my wife, girlfriend, female acquaintance, or even the guy that wants to wear heels in my presence should feel comfortable and enjoy their experience while heeling. Of course it is my preference for everybody to wear heels all the time, but that is unrealistic and unfair to expect any one to submit to such a selfish desire, unless they are in the same frame of mind and are willing to do so. Even so, I don't always find it possible for even me to live up to this expectation, so why should anyone else. As a confession, I'm wearing socks and no heels, even now. The important thing here is that we treat each other as equal human beings, that have great potentials and they may have a certain affinity or just feelings for you. Don't muff it up. Be there for them and strive to be the best you possible.

When high heels are modeled in a position that I can clearly see what they really look like, then I don't care if they are worn or not. Like HappyFeat posted, many of the shoes modeled are not provided with the proper information for purchasing most of the time. They may have details as to where they might be sold. You go to the site and there is nothing, not even to say they are coming soon. That is so frustrating. Six months later after the stock has been picked over or depleted, you might find something on ebay in a size you can't wear anyway. You'd think if they really wanted to sell an item, the advertisement would give directions or information to order direct from the maker. I wouldn't even mind paying a type of appreciation fee to the business that would offer this information as I ordered from the maker. This way the maker would have a better idea which style is in demand and to make more. Instead of making alot of less demanded styles that usually end up on the bargain tables or racks, which looks like a lot of waste and causes a higher cost of the demanded items to pay for the loss.

Yes. In a perfect world, if I were to go out with a woman who was 5' 10" and I am 5' 9", and she was wearing 3" high heels, then it would be great to slip on a pair of 5" high heels to go out with her and she and no one else would have a problem with this. Again, that is in that "perfect world."

For those who think that the heel height will make you as tall as the heels, well you haven't taken into account the placement of the ankle as the heel of the foot is raised. Depending on your foot size, you could still need at least another .5" to .75" in height to equal hers with the parameters roniheels has given. After approximately 2.5" to 3", the incremental raise in height of the body lessens dramatically per inch of heel height. Even the height of a 6" heel only raises the body less than half that height for the sizes between 9US to 11US WOMEN'S. If you have at least the .5" to .75" platforms with the 5" heels, then you would satisfy the difference in this particular equation.

To the original question...

Men would be saying "these shoes are killing me".

Men would have a closet full of hundreds of shoes and saying "I don't have the right shoe for this outfit" (which often happens to me).

Men would be dancing barefeet in weddings because feet were burning as hell.

Men would be taking shoes off to enter the boarding room in airports.

And so on.

I like your examples. You can also add:

Men wearing trainers to work, then changing to heels at their desks. I know all about that because I used to do it!

I think that men couldn't be men as we currently know them to be because you simply can not do certain activities in high heels. I think this would lead to men having other non-heeled shoes, which begs the question as to what those might be. Would men be wearing ballarina shoes now? Possibly.

The other thought I had would be whether women would have decided in the 1960s and 70s that they wanted to wear high heels too, because they want equal rights and they want to do whatever men are doing. If in fact man wearing high heels were the norm, then they would probably accept women wearing heels just as they did when women began wearing clothes that were typically male clothes.

I think that men wouldn't do anything about women wearing heels.

These portrayals of men wearing heels gives us more appreciation for the effort women have made and are making to wear heels. With both men and women in heels, there would be another area of commonality to be shared, instead of substantiating the socially created self-perpetuating theory of the gender gap. So, what if the man ends up carrying both pairs or they both decide to wear low heels, ballerina flats, or even go barefootin'. They will have been together and isn't that part of being a friend and/or companion.

My question here is: Does a male have to dehair his legs if he is only going to wear heels with his socially dictated male clothing? Admittedly, I don't like to see hairy feet and legs in heels either, but if the only part that can be viewed by others is from a little above the ankle down to the shoes, what's the point? Of course, if you just like the feeling of dehaired legs, I'd say go for it. The need for leg shaving has only been part of the main fashion scene for about seven to eight decades, which isn't that all that long. Before then, silk stocking and tights were used to cover legs, but silk was very expensive and not affordable to most financial budgets.

highheel16cm, You can use the cliches: beauty is in the eye of the beholder or one man's junk can be another man's treasure, but I agree with the post saying these unclothed picts do not belong on this forum. The human form set in the right context can be an inspiration to admire, but in this forum such displays are an affront to what heeling is about. If you had taken the time to read some of the rules for posting or even reading some of the prior posts in other threads, you could have save yourself from defiling yours and our reputation here if other new heelers or guest to this forum should look at this thread. Please refrain from this kind of posting in this forum. I wouldn't mind if this thread was removed, but may be it should be moved to the rules thread as an another example for those who may have a question as to the limits of posting acceptability.

Come to think of it, I still haven't worn heels since I told her!

It was funny the other day though, I had some skirts and stockings delivered. She asked me what was in the package, i replied "just a skirt and some stockings".

Never ever thought i'd be saying that to the wife.

Ah, its good to talk!

PatentHeel

I'm real happy that both of you are working on your relationship to build upon what you have. There are going to be times that will still cause the heeling activities to go on a type of trial between you. We are who we are and everyone has inner desires that need fulfillment. Some are socially compatible and accepted, while others would reap a lot of discomfort, if commonly known. Make sure you both are engaged in fulfilling each other's desires with the respect and love you have for one another. Keep your dreams and goals together actively alive so that the magic is forever present.

Hey johnnieheel, This subject needs addressing. We men think that wearing heels would not be any problem for women, but as Sarahlou points out they are attention grabbing. If a woman is on the prowl for a potential companion, her personality and looks, along with heels will advertise her presence and get her all the noticing she could ever want. Now, I know it is flattering to think someone has admired your appearance, but there are times you just want to look good without having to deal with anyone. You should have that right to be unbothered if you so desire. It is too bad that society hasn't made clear to some people, that one's space is not to be invaded or obstructed unless consent is given and even then others should to continue to show respect after getting the consent. As far as answering the question of overcoming the attention, when male heeling is as common as women heelers and men no longer have the social attitude to deal with, we might have a little more of an authoritative solution. For now, this may be a natural result up to now, because of the heeling domination by women. Possibly, if men could have an equal share in heeling, maybe the expectation would not have such an influence. However, from my point of view, the attraction of a women will always trump the appearance of a man, whether in heels or not.

There use to be a time when people appeared in public, their conscience wouldn't let them dress in a less than a well groomed manner. Even if they were just going to the grocery store for a package of margarine. Now, hardly any one seems to care, unless they are expecting to be with someone they want to impress.

Speaking as a true heeler and if things were left up to me, everyone, and I do mean everyone, should never be without a pair of their favorite heels, either on or carried in a satchel to change into. (DEFINITION: HEELS - any pair of stiletto court shoes with some heeled height ranging from 1.25cm up to sky high, if you can walk in them without helps.) With that being said, could this senario ever become a reality in the real world? In all fairness, probably not. That doesn't keep me from wanting it to be.

There are two real life sightings that caught my eye, but they were brief and I was not in an accessible position to even let them know I had noticed. The first one happened in the morning after the sun had been up for a while and I was in my truck and on my way to class. I was going along the street and he stepped out on to his porch just a little ahead of my left side vision and he began to walk toward his front gate. I turned my head to keep him in direct view as I continued by. Then I used my rear view mirror to again confirm what I had just witnessed. He was a large fellow in his 40's wearing a type of shirt dress with the hem line a little above the knees. I'm not sure if he was bare legged or had on stockings, but obviously he wore 1.5 inch (3.5cm) block heeled black pumps. I have thought about his sighting many times since and regret that I didn't try to even go back later and visit, but I was in a secrecy mode at the time. A second sighting happened a few years later, after the mid-night hour and I was in the parking lot of a supermarket to pick up some needed groceries. To my surprize, a guy walked out of the entrance wearing 4 inch (10cm) stiletto heels along with a shirt and trousers, got to his car, opened the driver's door and stepped into the car with his right foot, putting a medium sized sack of things on the front passenger's seat, as he sat down onto the driver's chair, swung his other foot in, closed the door, and drove away. No substantial happening on its own, but the incident was another proof I am not the only man willing to wear high stiletto heels in the male fashion genera. If males wore high heels as actively as females, I would be elated to live in an era where an individual's right to choose for themselves was an upheld standard of society. Other's opinions can be taken under advisement, but the final say should be the individual wearing the look. An outfit that is coordinated, makes the wearer more pleasing to view.