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i agree. sexy but smart without the over tarted up image that some will never give up (eg jordan)

i agree. pathetic robots following stereotypical rules that arent logical in any way

depends how tall she (or short he) really is. who knows they may already be 5'

all we were saying is that as someone had taken the trouble to wear heels as a guy, with guys clothes, a pair of black shoes wouldve made the outfit look smart, and perhaps a suggestion of a new fashionable look. instead he chose such an outrageous look that anyone looking, even us heel guys said that looks crap, and anyone else would too. As firefox often point out about the outrageous styles and us getting laughed at, a woman wouldnt really wear such heels too, and i cant remember ever seeing a woman with bright blue shoes as casual wear. Well done to him wearing the heels fair enough, but he is doing nothing to promote our image of men in heels, as people just continue to either think fetish, gay or completely outrageous-none of which are 'mainstream' fashion or in the queue for wide acceptance as normal clothing. daz

easier to find black than blue if that was the problem

it would be handy for the main shops to not stop at uk8 and use a 9, then my problems between a maybe tight or small 8 would be solved

our point exactly. noticed for the wrong reasons - not look at him in heels, but what a crap combination between a smart dressed man and the footwear of a podium dancer

apart from flip flops id agree with this at my 2nd job, a girl was wearing some block courts about 4in, and saying they were killing her feet. I suggested she wore flat shoes instead to cure the problem, to which she replied that she would look like a butch lesbian. A similar story to a bank colleague when her thin fitted stilettos were hurting her, i suggested the same flat items and was told to get real. i think they think its a must for the image

i agree, but some people insist of repeatedly attacking me, when they havent even read the thread or half the argument, and i like anyone have a right to defend myself.

gene you are right what you say about homosexuality and crossdressin. there was a discussion in the staffrooom as i mentioned bofore. one of the women was saying how the sex shop even does bigger stiletto shoes for men to wear etc. I had to get involved for the sake of their ignorance. I mentioned that what clothes people pput on the outside had nothing to do with sexuality. also they couldnt understand why men would want womens items, to which i put to them that they had the choice of both wardrobes, and therefore wouldnt understand why having half of them restriced it causes some people to clash and want to wear the other available stuff, however unlike a woman in mens clothes, a man gets slated and called gay etc. After batting down a few other comments a couple of them were open minded enough to agree with me, whereas a couple of the older women were still insistand that crossdressed men had smomething wrong in their head, and their husbands would be out if they did it. with that said, clothes these days in the name of fashion are designed to create an image or presentation of someone. Id say its logical that people will assume that a man in womens clothes eg skirt and heels is trying to somehow be a womsn or look like one (even if not the case) but in most cases if people ask and you set them straight i think they would be ok with it based on reactions during discussions. some people never think outside lifes usual guidelines until asked to.

i agree with wrong place wron time. some people you cant predict, usually those who are drunk. In our nightclubs, it gets to a stage where if you so much as glance in the direction of someone (whos had a few) then they think youre after a brawl, and often turns into one. Ive seen people jumped by lads or gangs of, just because they are gay etc. When such simple things can trigger a big fight, one can only wonder how many would attack you for wearing heels in the wrong place such as this. On the other hand, theres a busy main road close to where we live, and even in the dark, because of the volume of traffic and the lit up area, me and jade have enjoyed many an evening walk in the comfort of noone around and noone bothering us. so yes there is places to be and not to be daz

good stuff mate. its great when you realise you can get away with it without most people giving a toss how if your gf about your heels? you said you were out with her in them etc, just wondered why she dissapeared when you tried the boots on.

ha ha quite funny. lol bet you couldnt resist putting him in place. Did he have nothing to say about that? Also, are you a bit of a gambler gene just out of interest??

thats a good point gene. i think if you tell people things like that and actually bring them out of their own stereotyped world, it makes them think twice about what theyve said. They realise that it doesnt really matter, or in more direct cases like yours, that it SHOULDNT matter

Arno, if you read my posts you will realise that my post never contained 'a superior attitude' you would also notice that the people i referred to eg my gf and my cousin are the same size but one to me, therefore steeper inclines not an issue. also jade is a thin girl with what you would call average feet, and her shoes do fit ok. If anyone it is going to be my naturally wider mens feet in a narrow womens shoe having the worse fit. as said by a few people, it is down to the ability/flexibility of the individual rather than personal inhibited/learnt skills. as for apologising, i believe that after the storm had passed, explanations had been posted, argument over, as you burst in trying to light the fire about facts already discussed, and without obviously reading the post, i think it would be good for you to apologise, and let the thread continue as we were trying to. daz

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tell some of todays morons that. It was only today i overheard a convo in the staffroom where the women were saying they couldnt understand why men wanna wear womens stuff. if their husband dressed up in any womens clothes theyd be leaving them etc etc. mentioned heels and other things. I did pipe in that theyre just clothes which has nothing to do with sexuality etc, and that women wouldnt understand as they had the choice of both wardrobes. maybe i should take your pictures to work daz

id love to try those wedges. they look great. But la piazza stuff is so pricey ive worn 4.5in wedges on a beach. you still sink a little and feet more unstable. Like anne louise said you have to put weight forward to stay ok

teriffic. nothing sexier than a shiny tight skirt with a great pair of heels

what about the door frames?

i see you didnt put SHE. lol thin line with that one. a living woman but technically a man deep under

also can be said its pleasant to see opinions of other sites in the positive. quite a contrast vs the Ellie and fashion forums

they are. being on the border of the fashion shops (which eds at uk8) i have menaged to get a few pairs that fit ok, and even a pair of 7's but the odd pair of 8's are way too tight. it is a wierd matter indeed daz

i can imagine. I have some 5.5in boots and they are still quite a struggle to walk properly, and you quickly notice the extra weight on your foot as you mention. look forward to your pics sammie daz

i know. i think its hard to make blue heels of that colour look good with nearly anything. It looks a cheap crappy colour. As shyguy said, he was just trying anothe outrageous look, which will make people spring him to mind anytime anyone mentions heels on a man. With a better outfit he could have promoted a different, but smart image which im sure some would have made people think positive for us heel guys, instead of 'outrageous'